That is the legacy of Dumb and Dumber, Obama and Hillary Clinton. And that is why on his approach to Syria and ISIS, I firmly support Trump.
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That is the legacy of Dumb and Dumber, Obama and Hillary Clinton. And that is why on his approach to Syria and ISIS, I firmly support Trump.
Turkey vows to ‘eliminate any threat’ after US announces Kurdish border force in Syria
Ankara has slammed the plan to create a 30,000-strong force from the Kurdish-dominated SDF militias on its border with Syria, accusing its NATO ally of presenting its “unilateral” move as a joint decision of the US-led coalition.
The Turkish government perceives the so-called Syrian Border Force, that may be stationed along the Kurdish-controlled parts of the Syrian border with Iraq and Turkey, as well as in the Euphrates River Valley, as a threat to its national security, the Turkish Foreign Ministry said in the statement on Sunday.
“Turkey is determined to eliminate any threats against it, and has all possibilities to do this,” it said, denouncing what it called “the persistence of the United State in this erroneous approach” of cooperating with the Kurdish militias.
The US-led coalition’s plan to set up such a force on the basis of the Syrian Democratic Force (SDF) veterans, who are set to make up half of the recruits, was unveiled by US Army Col. Thomas Veale, a spokesman for the US-led coalition, on Saturday.
However, Turkey, which is also a part of the coalition to defeat Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL), was not consulted prior to the announcement, according to the ministry. It accused Washington of misleading the public into believing the decision was taken on behalf of the coalition, while in fact the US was likely acting unilaterally.
“It is unknown what coalition members made of this decision. Explaining the unilateral steps on behalf of the coalition is an extremely wrong move that could harm the fight with Daesh [the Arabic acronym for Islamic State],” the ministry said.
Turkey has been calling on the US to withdraw its support for the Kurdish YPG units, a cornerstone of the SDF militia, as Ankara considers the YPG an extension of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), outlawed as a terrorist entity in Turkey. In November, Washington promised to wind down its support for “certain groups” fighting IS in Syria following a phone call between Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and US President Donald Trump.
US Defense Secretary James Mattis later confirmed Washington would stop arming the Kurdish militias, noting that“police forces” comprised of the local population would still be needed to “make certain that ISIS doesn’t come back.”
The creation of the thousands-strong force build on the shoulders of the SDF runs contrary to Washington’s assurances to Turkey, the ministry argued. “Continued US cooperation with the YPG [US-backed Kurdish People’s Protection Units], which is contrary to its [the US’s] own obligations, jeopardize our national security and [the] territorial integrity of Syria, and that is unacceptable,” the statement read.
The presence of the Syrian Border Force will pose a challenge to Turkey, which might eventually push it into confrontation with the US on the ground, defense analyst Ivan Eland told RT, arguing that preserving relations with NATO-ally Washington will take second place in these circumstances.
“They [Turkey] could run into even more tension with the US than they already have and their forces could run into conflict with these forces that the US is sponsoring and maybe even the US forces,” Eland said.
Given that the US officially considers PKK a foreign terrorist organization, it is “very strange” that Washington continues to support Syrian YPG units, Eland said, alleging there are indeed some close ties between the two Kurdish groups. “If they are not brother groups, they are certainly cousins,” he argued.
Although creating a brand-new SDF-dominated border force deepens Washington’s rift with Turkey, it is not on the list of its primary concerns, the analyst said.
“What the US is trying to do there is to establish some influence on the eventual settlement for Syria and to do that they want to control some territories and to do that they need to keep their allies supplied and trained.”
The presence of well-trained and armed units in the border area as part of the US military legacy in Syria, Eland noted, can become “a problem not only with Turkey, but also with the Syrian government and the Russian forces.”
The plan to establish the unit has also been condemned by Russian officials, who claimed Washington is pursuing shadowy goals in the region. “There’s a clear equivocation here, I think it’s an obvious attempt to reanimate the militants, who can flow from neighboring states, namely Iraq,” said the deputy head of the State Duma’s defense committee Yuri Shvitkin. Creating such a “force,” the official stressed, can help the Washington “to achieve their geopolitical goals, escalate tensions, and, probably, attempt to overthrow the legitimately elected president Bashar Assad.”
Turkey vows to ‘eliminate any threat’ after US announces Kurdish border force in Syria
Ankara has slammed the plan to create a 30,000-strong force from the Kurdish-dominated SDF militias on its border with Syria, accusing its NATO ally of presenting its “unilateral” move as a joint decision of the US-led coalition.
The Turkish government perceives the so-called Syrian Border Force, that may be stationed along the Kurdish-controlled parts of the Syrian border with Iraq and Turkey, as well as in the Euphrates River Valley, as a threat to its national security, the Turkish Foreign Ministry said in the statement on Sunday.
“Turkey is determined to eliminate any threats against it, and has all possibilities to do this,” it said, denouncing what it called “the persistence of the United State in this erroneous approach” of cooperating with the Kurdish militias.
The US-led coalition’s plan to set up such a force on the basis of the Syrian Democratic Force (SDF) veterans, who are set to make up half of the recruits, was unveiled by US Army Col. Thomas Veale, a spokesman for the US-led coalition, on Saturday.
However, Turkey, which is also a part of the coalition to defeat Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL), was not consulted prior to the announcement, according to the ministry. It accused Washington of misleading the public into believing the decision was taken on behalf of the coalition, while in fact the US was likely acting unilaterally.
“It is unknown what coalition members made of this decision. Explaining the unilateral steps on behalf of the coalition is an extremely wrong move that could harm the fight with Daesh [the Arabic acronym for Islamic State],” the ministry said.
Turkey has been calling on the US to withdraw its support for the Kurdish YPG units, a cornerstone of the SDF militia, as Ankara considers the YPG an extension of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), outlawed as a terrorist entity in Turkey. In November, Washington promised to wind down its support for “certain groups” fighting IS in Syria following a phone call between Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and US President Donald Trump.
US Defense Secretary James Mattis later confirmed Washington would stop arming the Kurdish militias, noting that“police forces” comprised of the local population would still be needed to “make certain that ISIS doesn’t come back.”
The creation of the thousands-strong force build on the shoulders of the SDF runs contrary to Washington’s assurances to Turkey, the ministry argued. “Continued US cooperation with the YPG [US-backed Kurdish People’s Protection Units], which is contrary to its [the US’s] own obligations, jeopardize our national security and [the] territorial integrity of Syria, and that is unacceptable,” the statement read.
The presence of the Syrian Border Force will pose a challenge to Turkey, which might eventually push it into confrontation with the US on the ground, defense analyst Ivan Eland told RT, arguing that preserving relations with NATO-ally Washington will take second place in these circumstances.
“They [Turkey] could run into even more tension with the US than they already have and their forces could run into conflict with these forces that the US is sponsoring and maybe even the US forces,” Eland said.
Given that the US officially considers PKK a foreign terrorist organization, it is “very strange” that Washington continues to support Syrian YPG units, Eland said, alleging there are indeed some close ties between the two Kurdish groups. “If they are not brother groups, they are certainly cousins,” he argued.
Although creating a brand-new SDF-dominated border force deepens Washington’s rift with Turkey, it is not on the list of its primary concerns, the analyst said.
“What the US is trying to do there is to establish some influence on the eventual settlement for Syria and to do that they want to control some territories and to do that they need to keep their allies supplied and trained.”
The presence of well-trained and armed units in the border area as part of the US military legacy in Syria, Eland noted, can become “a problem not only with Turkey, but also with the Syrian government and the Russian forces.”
The plan to establish the unit has also been condemned by Russian officials, who claimed Washington is pursuing shadowy goals in the region. “There’s a clear equivocation here, I think it’s an obvious attempt to reanimate the militants, who can flow from neighboring states, namely Iraq,” said the deputy head of the State Duma’s defense committee Yuri Shvitkin. Creating such a “force,” the official stressed, can help the Washington “to achieve their geopolitical goals, escalate tensions, and, probably, attempt to overthrow the legitimately elected president Bashar Assad.”
Turkey vows to ‘eliminate any threat’ after US announces Kurdish border force in Syria
Syria Considers US Plan on Creating Border Security Force Blatant Aggression
The Syrian Foreign Ministry has slammed Washington's intention to form a 30,000-strong force inside the country with the proclaimed goal of maintaining security along its borders. The Syrian Army is poised to put an end to any form of US presence in the country, a Syrian foreign ministry source said, according to state TV.
Syria has condemned Washington's announcement of the formation of an armed militia in the northeast of the country, and regards this move a “blatant aggression on the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Syria and a flagrant violation of international law,” the foreign ministry said, as quoted by SANA.
Col. Thomas Veale, public affairs officer of the US-led coalition fighting against Daesh, said in an interview with The Defense Post news outlet that the coalition, supported by the Kurdish-led Syrian Defense Force (SDF), was working to establish a 30,000-strong force to maintain security along Syria's borders. The statement prompted Ankara's threats to launch an offensive in Kurdish-controlled Afrin in the country's north to purge terror from Turkey's southern borders.
READ MORE: Russia May 'Undertake Measures' After US Decision on Border Force in Syria
The United States-led international coalition has been operating in Syria since 2014, conducting airstrikes and establishing military bases without either UN endorsement or with Damascus' agreement. Syria has repeatedly spoken against the coalition's unauthorized presence as aggression against its integrity and statehood. The coalition's actions have led to civilian casualties.
READ MORE: US 'Playing With Fire' by Building 'Terrorist Army' in Syria — Turkish Deputy PM
Syria Considers US Plan on Creating Border Security Force 'Blatant Aggression'
The Syrian Foreign Ministry has slammed Washington's intention to form a 30,000-strong force inside the country with the proclaimed goal of maintaining security along its borders. The Syrian Army is poised to put an end to any form of US presence in the country, a Syrian foreign ministry source said, according to state TV.
Syria has condemned Washington's announcement of the formation of an armed militia in the northeast of the country, and regards this move a “blatant aggression on the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Syria and a flagrant violation of international law,” the foreign ministry said, as quoted by SANA.
Col. Thomas Veale, public affairs officer of the US-led coalition fighting against Daesh, said in an interview with The Defense Post news outlet that the coalition, supported by the Kurdish-led Syrian Defense Force (SDF), was working to establish a 30,000-strong force to maintain security along Syria's borders. The statement prompted Ankara's threats to launch an offensive in Kurdish-controlled Afrin in the country's north to purge terror from Turkey's southern borders.
READ MORE: Russia May 'Undertake Measures' After US Decision on Border Force in Syria
The United States-led international coalition has been operating in Syria since 2014, conducting airstrikes and establishing military bases without either UN endorsement or with Damascus' agreement. Syria has repeatedly spoken against the coalition's unauthorized presence as aggression against its integrity and statehood. The coalition's actions have led to civilian casualties.
READ MORE: US 'Playing With Fire' by Building 'Terrorist Army' in Syria — Turkish Deputy PM
Syria Considers US Plan on Creating Border Security Force 'Blatant Aggression'
Turkish President made his last warning today :
" To our fellow allies, if you walk with terror organisations badges in Syria we will burry you together with the terrorists"!
'Ne olursanız olun tepenize ineceğiz'
" To our fellow allies, if you walk with terror organisations badges in Syria we will burry you together with the terrorists"!
'Ne olursanız olun tepenize ineceğiz'
It proves that Kurdish enclaves in Syria and Iraq enjoy Western blessings and for all you know Russian blessings as well . I think time will answer where Russia is on this one , their recent displays of outrages notwithstanding.
Medium Range Improved Hawk Batteries , locked on Syria Airspace
Son dakika haberleri: Sınırda çok sıcak saatler! Fotoğraflar az önce çekildi, kilitlendiler!
Son dakika haberleri: Sınırda çok sıcak saatler! Fotoğraflar az önce çekildi, kilitlendiler!
Can you assume every Kurd is a terrorist? If so, can Europe assume every Muslim is a terrorist and refuse to have them on their borders? You see where that kind of thinking leads.
I can't see why're you so anti Turk . What have they done to you or your beloved / benighted nation ? Next you'd be calling them out for "The Armenian Genocide "too . Where does this stop ? Besides you're no friend of Muslims . Why this sudden gesture of empathy for the Kurds ? Are you willing to take in Kurds refugees now ?
No. For sure not. Sultan Selahhadin Ayyubi was ethnic Kurd and protector of Jerusalem.
Ex- Turkish President Özal was ethnic Kurd. Turkey doesn't discriminate people.
Its only against opportunistic ( capitalist mercenaries hidden fascists so called ANTIFA, who claim to be Social democrats ) terrorists,
they are a real danger like ISIS is to all of us.
Look, today in South Africa people burned down H&M Fashion Stores from Sweden cause racism.
H&M stores in South Africa trashed by protesters after 'racist' ad
I post you a racist Swedish advertise. Swedish Travel Company. They are only fair to their citizens but not to other humans abroad.
You know who assasinated almost 90 other ethnic people in NORWAY. Brejvik .
Norwegian terrorist Anders Breivik changes his name to Fjotolf Hansen
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Western PKK / YPG terrorists are a great danger for the west, if they return home.
Polit-Experte: Rückkehrende westliche PKK-Kämpfer könnten Anschläge verüben | nex24.com
International ANTIFA in Syria !
Battle-hardened veterans who have fought within the ranks of the YPG may wait for a crisis or for a war to promote their ideology, recruit and train new members against their real enemy – “the capitalists.”
Polit-Experte: Rückkehrende westliche PKK-Kämpfer könnten Anschläge verüben | nex24.com
International ANTIFA in Syria !
Battle-hardened veterans who have fought within the ranks of the YPG may wait for a crisis or for a war to promote their ideology, recruit and train new members against their real enemy – “the capitalists.”
I'm no fan of ANTIFA, but what does this have to do with Kurds in Syria?
Hopefully if these people can live in peace in their own ethnic homeland then they won't need to become refugees. And let's face it, Turkey had some fairly dodgy dealings with 'groups' in Syria and Iraq, various oil convoys and security officials being arrested after uncovering various shipments.
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No, for sure not. In Germany are almost 300000 Kurds living, only 10% are militant. Same is in Turkey , Iran and Iraq. The mistakes were made in the past. Assad surpressed most of his citizens, for sure he is a brutal Dictator. Saddam made the same mistakes as a dictator.
In Turkey (economic crisis from 60s -21th century) and Iran (isolation from end 70s until now) it was different,
the economic situation made it impossible to invest in the Kurdish populated areas and main reason for discontent..
All depends on economy, in Turkish Repuclics History even the second President Ismet Inönü had some Kurdish roots, President Özal never did hide that he was ethnical Kurd and traditional muslim, despite his wife who was taking alcohol and never covered his head.
Oil convoys ? I don't know if there is evidence that Government was involved. But we had an almost 1000 km long open border, mines were removed according Ottawa and bilateral agreements. The border to Syria , Iran and Iraq wasalways attractive for smugglers. Cigarettes, Alkohol, Drugs, Cattles and even illegal refugees. Now Turkey builds a giant concrete wall between Syria and Iran almost 1200 km are ready this year, electronic secured and patrolled. Iraqi border is between 1200- 3000 meters mountains no chanche, there Turkey tries to agree for a no man land in Iraq with the central Government. "Buffer Zone".
Iraqi Kurdistan agrees to set up ‘safe zones’ along Turkish border
Weapons ? Yes, the Government frankly said that they delivered weapons to moderate opposition and Turkish minority. But it is a crime to publish covert actions of the services. That's an universal unwritten law. You know for sure IRANGATE ? Oliver North was sentenced and book closed.
But Turkey delivered also in the 1960's weapons to the Kurds to protect themselves against Iraqi central Governments Violence. That is also fact.
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You should check where Turkey stands on Pakistan, Radical Islam and Kashmir before jumping to their defense over a very real genocide which they did in fact commit.
India needs to learn to recognize who its real friends are. Armenia is a real friend of India; Turkey and Azerbaijan are not. Israel is a real friend of India, the Palestinians and Arabs are not; and even the Iranians give greater consideration to co-religionists in the Islamic world over those with ancient civilizational ties to them like Indians.
The sooner India realizes this, the better.
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But similar statistics suggest that 8% of Turks sympathise with ISIS.
I was referring to more sinister weapon shipments.
Turkish MP who claimed sarin gas was delivered to Isis in Syria through Turkey faces treason charges - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
Turkish MP who claimed sarin gas was delivered to Isis in Syria through Turkey faces treason charges
Exclusive: Turkish intelligence helped ship arms to Syrian Islamist re
Exclusive: Turkish intelligence helped ship arms to Syrian Islamist rebel areas
Do you have a source for your statistics ? I can present you the Whitebook of German BfV ( Internal Secret Service).
There is nothing true ,what Eren Erdem claimed. Indeed some ISIS member were arrested during trying to buy material for homemade poison weapons. Every terrorist can build IEDs and poison attack devices. Don't believe every propaganda.
The first ever Genocides were made by the Spanish in South America, then the USA in North America, then the Spanish massacred Jews in the 15th century the Ottoman Fleet rescued more than 100.000 thousands of them and they were settled in Ottoman territory, later followed German Genocide to the Hereros in Namibia the list is long and off topic in Syrian Civil WAR.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, typical Turkish obfuscation. Nobody asked you to parrot a rote list of genocides you memorized off of Wikipedia. The simple fact is, that this thread was on the Syrian Civil War, from where YOU started talking about Kurdish groups, and inevitably the point about Turkish treatment of Kurds and the Armenian Genocide came up - I was most certainly not the one to bring it up first.
You can try to obfuscate all you want, and some people may even try to defend you, but you Turks have Armenian and Kurdish blood on your hands, and nothing will change that. Unfortunately the world didn't respond to the plight of the Armenians in 1915, but this time the US is behind the Kurds, your genocidal ways and the tyranny of your Islamist despot, Sultan Erdogan will not go unchallenged anymore.
And please, you're hopping up and down because you think Russia is your friend right now, but they have a score of their own to settle with you, so you probably shouldn't get too carried away. Don't make the mistake of thinking that Putin has forgotten that plane you shot down during the Civil War. He's a shrewd operator, and he's only biding his time.
