Who said they succeeded in anything, all you have is blogs and charlatans.
Not really, I suggested that the pandemic didn't help and that BAE SYSTEMS might buy them up with government help. But once again you chose to squirt shite everywhere.
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Well if DA didn't, why's Eurofighter going in for its version of SPECTRA? @Picdelamirand-oil
And I'm trying to din it into your thick skull that RR would take BAe down were BAe to buy out RR & merge it with itself. Which part of it didn't you understand? And do spare us your fascination with scat, Paddy.
The Eurofighter version will use the actual radar, so the two will not be the same.
Yet you suggested SAFRAN should buy it instead? Why would it be less likely to down SAFRAN?
The philosophy is the same, isn't it.
I don't see any other suitor except for SAFRAN which suits the bill. Besides I don't see why do you have to get your panties into a twist if SAFRAN does manage to get it's hands on RR. I doubt HMG is as hung up on bailing out RR as you seem to think they are or even if BAe has the financial wherewithal to buy out RR.
No, this version will be focused on functionality rather than marketing hype.
Why do you feel SAFRAN is more suited than BAE SYSTEMS? You don't buy when the market is up now do you?
What would you know? You read the brochure?
BAE didn't make cars when they bought Rover 20+ years ago either. Engines is far closer to what they do, and being systems engineers, the engine is part of the system.
What a stupid analogy?Makes me think Why did I ever expect anything better from you. What happened to Rover after BAE took over? How long did the Union last? In fact your analogy makes a perfect case of RR to be taken over by SAFRAN for the latter is in the same business compared to BAe & more to thr point BAe already has a track record of not being able to sustain such takeovers for a substantial period of time.
They sold Rover at a profit to BMW. Rover had literally nothing as a company when BAE took over. Making planes is part of what BAE do, engines go in planes and RR actually make decent products, unlike Rover at the time of BAE purchase.
That's happening all over the EU, in fact it came from the EU in the first place, it's particularly prevalent in Scandinavia.
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Looks like your goose is cooked nice & proper, eh Paddy? Just about everybody seems to think the UK is some sort of a punching bag. Tsk tsk. How the mighty have fallen!! @BMD
The Good Friday Agreement will be abided by, we're just not having a customs border in the middle of UK sovereign territory. If the EU feels that one is required then it shall have to put it somewhere inside the EU, which is not our problem. And since the EU doesn't want to damage the GF Agreement either, it will have to place it somewhere between ROI and the rest of the EU, and hey presto, a second nation has left the EU.
Who knows? In a few years, we may have to change the thread title from UK to Great Britain instead.
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Was that a Freudian slip?
At the end of the day we can wait until Pelosi is gone anyway should the worst come to the worst. Less chlorinated chickens that way anyhow. But the way I see it, maintaining the GF Agreement is easy - you just don't have a border between ROI and NI, and maintaining the "integrity" of the EU single market with that arrangement is a problem for the EU not the UK.
The border is owned by the UK and ROI, the EU can't force anything here without agreement from one or other of those two. So it has three options in the event of no deal, try force ROI to put a border there by using sanctions, which will be viewed dimly the world over, put a customs border between ROI and the EU, which will displease ROI, which is now a net contributor to the EU budget, or accept a hole in its single market bubble.
...Or it can start negotiating sincerely with a proper free trade agreement that doesn't involve customs checks as a starting point. And if it wants fishing rights, it needs to talk about either paying us money, or giving us something else of value, like access for services. And throwing a tantrum and starting legal proceedings against the UK will not get you anywhere, we will simply ignore such a kangaroo court.
Just think, you could have avoided all this simply by allowing us to impose a reasonable quota on immigration. All of a sudden that simple 100,000 person limit we asked for seems like a distant dream doesn't it?
...Or it can start negotiating sincerely with a proper free trade agreement that doesn't involve customs checks as a starting point. And if it wants fishing rights, it needs to talk about either paying us money, or giving us something else of value, like access for services. And throwing a tantrum and starting legal proceedings against the UK will not get you anywhere, we will simply ignore such a kangaroo court.
Just think, you could have avoided all this simply by allowing us to impose a reasonable quota on immigration. All of a sudden that simple 100,000 person limit we asked for seems like a distant dream doesn't it?
Well look at it this way, the UK is a sovereign nation state, the EU is only a trading bloc, it's less reasonable for them to ask us to have a customs border within our state than for them to put one in their bloc. And on top of that they're asking for £60bn and fishing rights with nothing offered in return. Nobody can possibly see that as reasonable.
The ROI/NI border is owned by the UK and ROI, if they chose not to put a border there the EU has very limited options aside from overt and lengthy posturing, other than the options I mentioned here.
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DA never claimed such status for Rafale. They've merely incorporated elements of stealth thru EW & partially thru geometry. Having succeeded in their modest efforts, Eurofighter seems keen to emulate it. Why's that so hard to understand? Who said they succeeded in anything, all you have is blogs...
The Good Friday Agreement is very much an EU problem not a UK problem, since we will continue to abide by it and I assume ROI will too.
Yes . And just after they turned Rover around they sold it. If that's their track record, you can expect them to do the same with RR. I certainly won't trust BAe with a nation's crown jewels. I
Therefore, for reasons discussed earlier it has to be SAFRAN.
Are you part of the EU? If the EU is desperate to commit suicide, will you? Try to come up with better reasoning than this regressive perverted line of argument , Paddy.
So, there's no solution to this vexed problem which in turn means you exit with no deal. Talk about adding to ones own problems. I'm not complaining. In fact I'm loving it.The Good Friday Agreement will be abided by, we're just not having a customs border in the middle of UK sovereign territory. If the EU feels that one is required then it shall have to put it somewhere inside the EU, which is not our problem. And since the EU doesn't want to damage the GF Agreement either, it will have to place it somewhere between ROI and the rest of the EU, and hey presto, a second nation has left the EU.
Well look at it this way, the UK is a sovereign nation state, the EU is only a trading bloc, it's less reasonable for them to ask us to have a customs border within our state than for them to put one in their bloc. And on top of that they're asking for £60bn and fishing rights with nothing offered in return. Nobody can possibly see that as reasonable.
The ROI/NI border is owned by the UK and ROI, if they chose not to put a border there the EU has very limited options aside from overt and lengthy posturing, other than the options I mentioned here.
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DA never claimed such status for Rafale. They've merely incorporated elements of stealth thru EW & partially thru geometry. Having succeeded in their modest efforts, Eurofighter seems keen to emulate it. Why's that so hard to understand? Who said they succeeded in anything, all you have is blogs...www.strategicfront.org
The Good Friday Agreement is very much an EU problem not a UK problem, since we will continue to abide by it and I assume ROI will too.
It's in both ROI's and NI's interest that there's no hard border between the two, hence the need for a customs border between NI and GB instead.
If you push the problem on to the EU, then the EU will solve it by ejecting ROI from the EU. Or the undesired alternative of creating a hard border between the ROI and NI, which in turn will force the NI to initiate a referendum for independence and a return to the EU. So the customs border is the obvious solution left. Hence the NI protocol it is.