Ukraine - Russia Conflict

Hydra said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1497881406080696322

Two veterans @vstol Jockey & hellfire are already told indirectly that Russians are losing slowly.
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Yes, at the current pace.

The Russians have entered Ukraine and are pushing for a surrender. So operations are limited in order to achieve this objective.

If they don't surrender, the next option is to level the country. The question is if the Russians will make this decision. If they don't, then they will have to retreat and consider it a loss. Or they will bomb Ukraine back to the stone age, which will lead to tremendous civilian deaths and a long term insurgency.
 
Hydra said:
Better we all together avoid this doctrine. This will give enough time for west to have unified action against the war,we will end up in troop withdrawal without achieving a single goal.
We are not Russia,we cannot ignore international pressure.
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The problem is Putin gave too much time to Ukraine and west to prepare for this war. This is the main reason why the objectives could not be achieved within the 72 hrs. But a delay of just 24 hrs can't be called bad. Russia is in Kiev and they are avoiding civilian casualties while Ukrainians have placed their weapons within the civil areas.
 
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randomradio said:
No such thing. The war has barely begun. Our Cold Start would be the same.
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I dont understand , why Russians are Not Using towed Artillery

For example , when we attacked Tiger Hill , 9000 Shells were fired on One Night

The Russians either Use MBRLs or Just Send in the Tanks
 
Hydra said:
Better we all together avoid this doctrine. This will give enough time for west to have unified action against the war,we will end up in troop withdrawal without achieving a single goal.
We are not Russia,we cannot ignore international pressure.
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It depends on our will. But yeah, we do not yet have strategic autonomy to stave off Western pressure.

We are currently energy and forex dependent, which means dependency on the Middle East and the US, both being friendly with Pakistan. But in 15 years, it will switch, we will become a net energy exporter and have little to no dependency on the West. No one will be able to influence us by then.
STEPHEN COHEN said:
I dont understand , why Russians are Not Using towed Artillery

For example , when we attacked Tiger Hill , 9000 Shells were fired on One Night

The Russians either Use MBRLs or Just Send in the Tanks
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That's what we mean by the Russians not using massive fires. They are ensuring the cities and the people in it are safe. Most of the fighting is happening in the outskirts.

They want the Ukranians to surrender without fighting.
 
randomradio said:
It depends on our will. But yeah, we do not yet have strategic autonomy to stave off Western pressure.

We are currently energy and forex dependent, which means dependency on the Middle East and the US, both being friendly with Pakistan. But in 15 years, it will switch, we will become a net energy exporter and have little to no dependency on the West. No one will be able to influence us by then.
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We will Not start Any war against Pakistan

Even Pakistanis know that

We will only respond to Provocation

And US knows What Pakistan Did to their Afghan Mission

So Only China will openly come out in support of Pakistan

Anyway the Only way to Win a Short Limited War is Air Power and Missile power

If PAF and PN are crippled , pakistanis loose all their H and D ie
Honour and Dignity

H and D is what Pakistanis live for

One F 16 loss has scarred them till Today :ROFLMAO:
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
We will Not start Any war against Pakistan
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Yeah. At least not without achieving strategic autonomy.

No Indian govt wants to be put in a position where we end up not being able to import oil.

STEPHEN COHEN said:
So Only China will openly come out in support of Pakistan
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No such thing. Anybody who thinks is our enemy will support Pakistan. It's like all those libertards who are coming out in support of the hijab only because the BJP is against hijab. It's like an overdose of my enemy's enemy is my friend trope.

Opposition for the sake of opposition will be the main supporters of Pakistan.
 
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Okay, massive escalation planned by Russia.

www.hindustantimes.com

Putin will ‘let his men die’; Russia preparing for medical emergency: Reports

Russia-Ukraine war: Reports based on a leaked health ministry document claimed Russia is preparing for a medical emergency and asked for medical staff ready to relocate and work immediately.
www.hindustantimes.com www.hindustantimes.com

If even civilian medical personnel are being pressed into service, we are looking at the situation devolving into a major war.
 
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