Ukraine - Russia Conflict

How much dependent are our armed forces on Ukraine?

I can list two important areas

1. Zorya Gas Turbines in Talwar class and our destroyers
2. An32 RE

Any more ???
Any conflict with Russia will hamper or Spares supply.
 
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That's not how SAMs work. You may have stealth and PGMs. But the Russians, if they end up not being able to shoot down the F-35, they can still shoot down the PGM. So that makes your F-35 useless.

The entire point of stealth is to get close enough to the enemy so that your PGM's short range does not give the SAM enough time to shoot them down. So for a PGM, the JDAM is effective inside a 30Km radius. You really think even a single S-400 radar cannot pick up an F-35 from 30Km? Otoh, a multistatic ADS will be able to detect the F-35 from BVR distances, long enough to kill the F-35 before it can release long range bombs like the SDB.

Also, the S-400 isn't the only SAM. Even the Russian Army have their own S-400 equivalent SAMs, they are on tracks and move with armour. And they have plenty of other smaller SAMs that complement the larger SAMs, like the Tor, Buk etc. The US Army doesn't operate SAMs, but the Ru Army does.


Good luck s400 finding a strike group of F-35's under EW conditions and trying to find a low observable JSOW at the same time.
Then let's put the numbers in perspective. For just 5 regiments, India was ready to make 6000 SAMs.
The deal also includes purchase of about 6,000 missiles from Russia.

I'm talking about the s400s 40N6. No s300 or s400 battery is going to be inside Ukraine and if that is the case Russia wont have any ability to conduct CAS over Ukraine in the event US/NATO gets involved.
Good luck.

It's not about luck it's about the purpose of those planes. Bait.
 
Good luck s400 finding a strike group of F-35's under EW conditions and trying to find a low observable JSOW at the same time.

It's not really that difficult. EA is very hard. If EA was reliable, then the USAF would actually have invested in it, instead of placing it on the backburner for decades.

I'm talking about the s400s 40N6.

And you are underestimating it as well. It's a two-stage missile. The kill vehicle in the 2nd stage is not much different from AAMs. It's no different from the SM-6.

No s300 or s400 battery is going to be inside Ukraine and if that is the case Russia wont have any ability to conduct CAS over Ukraine in the event US/NATO gets involved.

It's a good thing we know you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
How much dependent are our armed forces on Ukraine?

I can list two important areas

1. Zorya Gas Turbines in Talwar class and our destroyers
2. An32 RE

Any more ???
Any conflict with Russia will hamper or Spares supply.

Depends on the scale of the conflict. But even in the worst case, I don't think long term supplies will be affected as long as the factories survive.

I doubt the Russians are looking at all-out war, even if it came to that.
 
The puppets thoughts on this...
Do yourself a favor & don't post your sources of information will you? For your sake. As it is people out here have a rather poor opinion about your knowledge of matters geopolitical. Then you go right ahead & play into their hands.
 
If you support this Biden clown I don't know what to tell ya. And don't bring up Tuckers reflecting demented looking eyes either!

It's demorat party that wants this war.
 
The Pentagon said Friday that the destruction and human cost of a full-scale incursion by Russian forces into Ukraine would be "horrific," but that there was still time for diplomacy to avoid a war.

"If that was unleashed on Ukraine, it would be significant, very significant, and it would result in a significant amount of casualties," Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley said.

"And you can imagine what that might look like in dense urban areas, along roads and so on and so forth. It would be horrific, it will be terrible."

Speaking alongside Milley, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said conflict in Ukraine could still be avoided, despite Russian President Vladimir Putin amassing more than 100,000 troops along their shared border.

"Conflict is not inevitable. There is still time and space for diplomacy," said Austin.

"Mr. Putin can do the right thing as well," he added. "There is no reason that this situation has to devolve into conflict. He can choose to de-escalate. He can order his troops away," he said.

The remarks of the US military's two top officials, who had been quiet in recent days over the rise in tensions in Eastern Europe, came as there was no sign of a breakthrough in diplomatic efforts to avoid open conflict.

They said Russia continues to add to its forces pointed at Ukraine, with a range of offensive units and capabilities including armor, air power, naval power, missiles, and cyber and political operations.


While the Pentagon officials said they do not believe Putin has made a decision to go to war, they said his options have expanded, from provocations that could lead to an attack in the restive southeast Donbass region, to an attempt to overrun the entire country, attacking urban centers like the capital Kyiv.

"If war were to break out on a scale and scope that is possible, the civilian population will suffer immensely," Milley said.

Russia itself will suffer, he added.

"If Russia chooses to invade Ukraine it will not be cost-free, in terms of casualties or other significant effects."

Austin and Milley stressed that Washington has no intention of sending US troops to Ukraine to defend it, but will continue to support the Ukraine military with arms and other materials.

However, they stressed, the United States was prepared to send troops to reinforce and protect NATO allies in eastern Europe that faced a potential threat from a Russian attack on Ukraine, which is not part of the Atlantic alliance.

"An attack on one NATO ally is an attack against all," Milley warned.
 

If anything I don't think Phase I will roll over to that extent, while Phase III won't happen at all. Meaning I doubt the Russians will ever cross the river or threaten Odessa.

They can take over the regions east of the river and then use their forces in Belarus to threaten Kiev for a settlement.

Taking over land up to the river will keep the Russians safe as well, even if Kiev doesn't settle. They will have an insurgency in their hands though.
 
If anything I don't think Phase I will roll over to that extent, while Phase III won't happen at all. Meaning I doubt the Russians will ever cross the river or threaten Odessa.

They can take over the regions east of the river and then use their forces in Belarus to threaten Kiev for a settlement.

Taking over land up to the river will keep the Russians safe as well, even if Kiev doesn't settle. They will have an insurgency in their hands though.
The problem for Russian now is that if they don't attack and manage kiev now then within 5-6 years it will up arm itself enough that Russians won't be able to anything then and they even join the NATO.

Once that happens, Russians will have to keep a permanent deployment along Ukraine border too.
 
The problem for Russian now is that if they don't attack and manage kiev now then within 5-6 years it will up arm itself enough that Russians won't be able to anything then and they even join the NATO.

Once that happens, Russians will have to keep a permanent deployment along Ukraine border too.

Ukraine could have armed itself between 2014 and today, they didn't. So they are likely to repeat that mistake.

While their infantry has been receiving new tech, their armour, artillery and air defence suck, and their air force is practically non-existent. They are only restoring their mostly outdated stuff right now.

When it comes to fighter jets, their program is called "Air Force Vision 2035", so you can see how 'serious' they are. The US should have delivered used F-16s, Patriot batteries, Harpoons and EW systems free of cost to them right after they lost Crimea.
 
Won't even be a war, just a massacre.