Ukraine - Russia Conflict

Wrong. Ukraine is Pakistan and Russia is India surrounded by existential threats and yet fighting.
Right, so are you saying India is a dictatorship, or that Russia is a democracy? Or are you saying that Kashmir belongs to Pakistan? Because otherwise your analogy makes no sense.

Another wrong example. India attacking Pakistan and splitting it into two parts in 1971(against the desire of US/UK) is what you're looking for. Except Russia unlike India will absorb all the Russian majority places into itself.
Very few parts of Ukraine have an ethnic Russian majority. Certainly way less than what they have taken.

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you are not dying, your country is not getting bombed , your children are not getting killed , your ppl are not homeless in winter.....west can say or do whatever its wants that suits their agenda. West will make ukraine fight till last man until their geopolitical aims are achieved.
You think Ukrainians wouldn't want to fight for their country anyway? It is Russia's fault that they are being bombed and homeless.

Now you're accusing the west of something that Putin is doing. Make up results to a referendum. Declare part of another country to be yours. Babble about the west.

You have a preconceived view of the west and Russia and you invent facts and completely alternate realities to try and fit that.
 
Every coin has two sides. In this war no one is a saint. But western propaganda only believes that they are saviours of humanity whilst the other side is Lucifer himself.

No one has understood or explained this war in its entity than our respected @vstol Jockey sir. If you want unbiased, devoid of any propaganda viewpoint then I'd suggest to read his posts and understand( and then you will get the gist of my post.)
He ask for an example and you reply with blather which isn't surprising coming from you. And stop kissing vstol's a$$ as if he has the answers when he doesn't. Just ask him out if you're into him.
 
Every coin has two sides. In this war no one is a saint. But western propaganda only believes that they are saviours of humanity whilst the other side is Lucifer himself.
Sometimes propaganda is easy. Sometimes it is literally just facts. There's literally no way of presenting what Russia has done as right.
 
You think Ukrainians wouldn't want to fight for their country anyway? It is Russia's fault that they are being bombed and homeless.

Now you're accusing the west of something that Putin is doing. Make up results to a referendum. Declare part of another country to be yours. Babble about the west.

You have a preconceived view of the west and Russia and you invent facts and completely alternate realities to try and fit that.
It's a victim mentality. Many people of color or from third world nations have this victim mentality which you can thank lefty white people. They blame the past for their failures in life and their nations failures even though they weren't around back in those days.

If this war goes nuke hot and Pooty nukes SanFrancisco, LA, NY, DC and other lefty home bases the US should call it even.
 
The Z parasite has been successfully isolated by antibodies.

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USA directly spies on the leaders of other NATO member countries and also blackmails them plus they swing the opinion of people in the NATO states to ensure that leaders supportive of NATO only get elected. That is why they maintain military force in each of the member states except France.

Every nation has redlines, Ukraine was a redline for Russia known to west from 1990 onwards. Russia did not invade Ukraine, It was Ukraine which what was part of Russia till 1922 reorganisation of states of Russian Federation. I had earlier posted a map of Russia thru last 1000 yrs. Please check that. The case between China and India is different as China signed a status quo agreement for LAC in 1996 followed other agreements and they not only violated them but also tried to occupy more ground.
If you are bringing historical map, then you will be supporting chines?
 
Wrong. Ukraine is Pakistan and Russia is India surrounded by existential threats and yet fighting.


Another wrong example. India attacking Pakistan and splitting it into two parts in 1971(against the desire of US/UK) is what you're looking for. Except Russia unlike India will absorb all the Russian majority places into itself.
India is a quad member , its a existence threat to Chinese. What will be your stand then? Only reason we can attack pak is on the basis of the fact that Pak is holding our Kashmir. Kashmir is our land, a legitimate land. Russia attacked ukrain to grab places which belongs to Ukrain,both historically & since 91.

No, you cannot compare 71 with current scenario. We attacked pak in 71 as a retaliation for their aerial attack on us😝. And we destroyed them. Here Russia attacked Ukrain to capture it complete, or atleast up to kyive. But now ran away from those areas and annexing a marginal part of their original plan. This is something like pakistani attack on us in 65.
 
It is very unfortunate to see French tow the same line of US/UK. USA is trying to sabotage France and all other Euro nations but alas for them ONLY enemy is the Rusky Bear🤦‍♂️
Actually the Rusky Bear tried to capitalise on existing divisions between NATO members, only to find that it was HIMARS time.
 
You think Ukrainians wouldn't want to fight for their country anyway? It is Russia's fault that they are being bombed and homeless.
oh yeah russia decided overnight that they need to fight ukraine. NATO mob had no hand in it? You mean to say nato ob was busy selling sugar packets & cigars on the sidewalks, while all the weapons in ukraine grew on trees as fruits.

West dint conduct a coup , back a stupid comedian to brinkmanship, no such thing happened? yeah a divine comedy indeed. Why doesnt the sugar daddies of ukraine call for negotiations instead want to continue the brutal war, bcos they are so concerned about ukranian lives?

You have a preconceived view of the west and Russia and you invent facts and completely alternate realities to try and fit that.
when the saints have a past, is it hard to predict their future? World has no other work other than to invent facts about the innocent sweet kids who live in alternate happy universe picking daisies, it must be pretty hard on them.
 
West will make ukraine fight till last man until their geopolitical aims are achieved.
Always the same stupid and blatantly, obviously, completely, utterly, totally, entirely, absolutely wrong take.

The West is not making Ukraine fight. Only dim-witted morons and the terminally gullible would believe such a ridiculous take. The only ones who are making Ukraine fight are the Ukrainians themselves, because they defend their country against a ruthless dictatorship that wants to enslave them and steal their washing machines, and Vladimir Putin, because he started the fight and is doubling down at every setback.

The West is helping Ukraine fight, but only started doing so after Ukraine proved it was willing and able to fight. When the whole mess started, West thought that Ukraine would crumble, again, like it did in Crimea in 2014. USA offered to evacuate Zelinsky, who replied he was staying in Kyiv and that he needed ammo, not a taxi. Come on, it's not that far ago, don't tell me you've got Alzheimer's!

So, be correct, be accurate, be truthful, and say "Putin will make Ukraine fight to the last man until his geopolitical aims are achieved", because that is what the actual reality looks like when you don't live in Russian propaganda la-la land.
 
It's a victim mentality. Many people of color or from third world nations have this victim mentality which you can thank lefty white people. They blame the past for their failures in life and their nations failures even though they weren't around back in those days.

If this war goes nuke hot and Pooty nukes SanFrancisco, LA, NY, DC and other lefty home bases the US should call it even.
yeah the bully super man feels like a victim when his facts are bashed and his ego bruised. He says leftists every where when his divine actions are questioned and their impunity gets challenged.
 
oh yeah russia decided overnight that they need to fight ukraine.
That's pretty much it.

Though it's not exactly overnight. It's been more like a long simmer since Ukraine (including Donbass and Crimea) voted for independence in 1991. This is largely because Russia always considered that Ukraine belongs to them, instead of belonging to its people. The Russians always despised the Ukrainians who they saw as backward yokels, calling them "khokhols". Just another ethnic minority to keep under their boots.

See what Foundations of Geopolitics has got to say about Ukraine; it's a good illustration of Russian political thought.
NATO mob had no hand in it?
NATO kept politely asking Russia not to do it and that there would be sanctions if they did. Russia decided to do it anyway, thinking that West was weak and decadent and would just do some limp-wristed sanctions.
You mean to say nato ob was busy selling sugar packets & cigars on the sidewalks, while all the weapons in ukraine grew on trees as fruits.
The weapons arrived after Russia invaded, not before.
West dint conduct a coup ,
There was no coup. You don't know what a coup is, apparently. I suppose you refer to the 2014 events? Yanukovitch fled the country, and in absentia was impeached by a vote in the Ukrainian parliament, following the legal procedures laid out in the Ukrainian Constitution for such things. Then there were elections.
back a stupid comedian to brinkmanship, no such thing happened?
The stupid comedian was elected by the Ukrainians, with no involvement of the West, who was mostly indifferent and saw him, back then, as a stupid comedian.
yeah a divine comedy indeed. Why doesnt the sugar daddies of ukraine call for negotiations instead want to continue the brutal war, bcos they are so concerned about ukranian lives?
Negotiations are only possible when both sides want it. What you are willfully blind to is that it's Russia who doesn't want to negotiate and who wants to continue the brutal war. Just look at the facts, for once: Putin planned a "special military operation" to seize Kyiv and install a puppet regime, it failed. Instead of calling it quit and going back home, Putin decided to go for a war of conquest in southern Ukraine. It again failed. Instead of calling it quit and going back home, Putin decided to annex the land they've grabbed so far and mobilize to turn it into a full-fledged war. And it will again fail, and instead of calling it quit and going back home, Putin will again escalate. Putin will kill, torture, and loot washing machine until the end of the world because he's too racist to accept that "khokhols" might not want to live under his heel, and he's too proud to admit he's sending Russia to the abyss.