Ukraine - Russia Conflict

It would have served the Russians better had they not taken Ukraine so lightly. That would have finished the war in a month with a partial mobilisation back in March.

Partial mobilization would have also not worked because NATO( Ukraine is a place where NATO and Russian are fighting) would have still retaliated this time. They all were preparing past 2-3 years. This is why Americans left Afghanistan to do action in Ukraine.
 
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That pact was an alliance of convenience. Our man was gleeful when he thought Germany would invade Britain, until 1941 came as a shock to him.

He pushed for an alliance 6 months before the invasion to guarantee Hitler that SU won't do anything behind his back during his British invasion. It was always assumed in the SU that after Hitler deals with France and Britain, and with America insisting they will be sitting out, all of Europe would be theirs for the taking. Would have come true too, if the US had not stepped in to free France.

And, as is the rule in autocracies, Stalin was lied to quite a lot by his own people.
So? It was still an alliance with Nazis. Therefore the fact the Nazis invaded them is something they thoroughly deserved. So to bring up the Nazis as a modern day security case for Russia is absurd. The Nazi regime was removed, however the Russian regime of WWII is still fundamentally intact.
Are they preparing for another invasion or just cleaning the flag?
There was something about a deal being discussed where Russia leaves all parts of Ukraine bar Crimea, but Crimea is demilitarised, after which Putin escapes charges and sanctions. If that's true and I was Putin I would jump at the chance, because in 12 months he'll wish he did if he doesn't.
 
So is British, and American, also French. Because you won against Germans
It is, but one would have to argue that the better side won, and since then all colonial empires of the aforementioned have been dismantled. Not so for Russia. It continues colonialism to this day.
It would have served the Russians better had they not taken Ukraine so lightly. That would have finished the war in a month with a partial mobilisation back in March.

It would have served the Ukrainians better had the Europeans actually funded and armed the Ukrainians to create enough of a deterrence to prevent an invasion in the first place.

It would have served the Europeans better had they been assertive globally instead of withdrawing into a shell and forced into a situation where the Americans are showing you your place.

It would have served the Americans better had they continued WW2 all the way to Moscow instead of ending it at Berlin.

Gotta look at everything, not just one thing. None of this would have come to pass had the US withdrawn from NATO in 1991 and Europe stepped in to take care of its own security, like it really should have.
Things weren't stable enough in 1991 to do that.

It would have served India better if it had aligned with NATO from 1947.
 
It is, but one would have to argue that the better side won, and since then all colonial empires of the aforementioned have been dismantled. Not so for Russia. It continues colonialism to this day.

Winners are always better and right, be it Russians in Ukraine, or the Americans in Iraq.
 
Partial mobilization would have also not worked because NATO( Ukraine is a place where NATO and Russian are fighting) would have still retaliated this time. They all were preparing past 2-3 years. This is why Americans left Afghanistan to do action in Ukraine.

No, Russia would have mobilised and taken over most of the left bank before Ukraine could resist or NATO could interfere. UAF at the time was totally incapable of defeating Russia.

With enough troops, the Russians would have rushed towards all the major cities along the river and UAF troops on the left bank would have gotten themselves surrounded, they would have surrendered within weeks due to lack of supplies. In fact this is what NATO expected would happen. No one expected Russia to only invade with some 80-90k ground forces against nearly a million Ukrainians.

Normally with Russia's forces, Ukraine should have fallen in less than a month. The fighting on the left bank shouldn't even have lasted a week. It's pretty much what we have planned with Pakistan, except we have over 500k troops and twice the tanks and artillery in half that space. Plus an air force that we will actually use, against an enemy that's not gonna get NATO assistance.

Why else do you think Ukraine was never armed by NATO?

Screwing up this war is completely Russia's fault.

Even now, if they bring in enough troops, they can make a beeline towards all the major cities and this would end the war very quickly, 'cause about 500,000-700,000 troops would get surrounded. It can be done before December ends, before more weapons are supplied to UAF over the winter.
 
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It would have served India better if it had aligned with NATO from 1947.

Lol, the US had a poor reputation at the time, especially after the use of nukes. And the fact that there were a lot of fans for socialism within the Third World because people were not fans of the early years of capitalism in the US which led to the Great Depression. Plus the world considered the USSR as the main champions against the Nazis in Europe, whereas the US ended up 'colonising' Japan and even fought a war in Korea, thereby 'colonising' SoKo. Then came the Vietnam War. So the US was seen as a new imperial power after Britain. The SU, with their socialism and sacrifice, had a very high moral standing at the time.

Also, until the 70s, it was considered that the Soviet model was better for all countries, until the SU fell under the trappings of the Dutch disease.

It was the Third Industrial Revolution that changed the world's perspective on the US because by then there was no need to conquer and colonise countries, trade became more important. That's also when globalisation kicked off, after which India also became friendly with the US, though the US still continued its tradition of conquering and subjugating other lands.
 
No, Russia would have mobilised and taken over most of the left bank before Ukraine could resist or NATO could interfere. UAF at the time was totally incapable of defeating Russia.

NATO wanted Russia to go in full swing but Russia wants to prolong the war as much as possible. Move forward reduce the infrastructure and pull back.

Russians want to inflict heavy cost of war on NATO countries and reduce their industrial out put because that's the backbone of NATO and take revenge of what NATO did to USSR by caping oil prices. The Russian target is not Ukraine but NATO.

If you have heard what Kremlin said earlier it was clear that Russia will expand the theater not just militarily but also economically. It is all planned.

I won't be surprized if Ukraine becomes Syria of Europe. This is exactly what every one is fearing.
 
Screwing up this war is completely Russia's fault.

Even now, if they bring in enough troops, they can make a beeline towards all the major cities and this would end the war very quickly, 'cause about 500,000-700,000 troops would get surrounded. It can be done before December ends, before more weapons are supplied to UAF over the winter.

War is not over yet. It will be too early to say that is at it's last stage. This is just a beginning and the manifestation of this attrition war is going to be very bad in rest of the world. This is why leaders are running here and there because the economy has been damaged.

Loss of lives is another serious matter on both sides.
 
(y), thats the big mistake they are allowing to take place, allowing supplies to flow thru.

Cutting off the main supply route in the west with so few troops is impossible. But surrounding troops on the left bank and cutting off local supply is possible.
 
NATO wanted Russia to go in full swing but Russia wants to prolong the war as much as possible. Move forward reduce the infrastructure and pull back.

Russians want to inflict heavy cost of war on NATO countries and reduce their industrial out put because that's the backbone of NATO and take revenge of what NATO did to USSR by caping oil prices. The Russian target is not Ukraine but NATO.

If you have heard what Kremlin said earlier it was clear that Russia will expand the theater not just militarily but also economically. It is all planned.

I won't be surprized if Ukraine becomes Syria of Europe. This is exactly what every one is fearing.

The Russians could have prolonged the war elsewhere, like bridgeheads on the right bank.

You always fight in enemy territory, not your own. Right now, the Russians are destroying territory they want to protect, like Donbas. All the Russians had to do was take the entire left bank, then split their forces into two, one attacking Kiev from the north, the right bank, and the other the main offensive in the south towards Odessa. And any negotiations could be killed via impossible requests, like lifting sanctions, Ukraine's unconditional surrender, Zelensky's removal etc.

They have most definitely mobilised to escalate the war, there's no doubt about that.
 
And this is why Russia is losing and will lose.
You fight with what you have , not what you want to have , if let's say tomorrow India went to war with NATO & Indian soldiers start crying that they have F 35 & we have tejas...would your opinion be same ?
And this is what happens when you're trained by US/NATO, have competent officer and have high morale to fight invaders.
Russian soldiers didn't run away but retreated , this video doesn't tell the whole picture....it was a coordinated attack from multiple side....there was a large Caliber fire on Russian position from south & even if Ukrainian troops despite having a disadvantage in numbers manage to storm heavily defended RU position without any suppression fire...it only goes on to show how unprofessional Ukrainian forces are as they are solely relying on luck to succeed.
 
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