Ukraine - Russia Conflict

On tweeter there is talk of 600 mobilised people who would have been in the building with an ammunition depot in the basement. The majority would have died.
From Rybar:
Translation

Regarding Makiivka

Came to the PTU from HIMARSa.
Mobilised people were being quartered in the building.
A significant number were killed and wounded.
The rubble was still being removed in the evening.

After strikes on large ammunition and fuel and oil depots, depots began to be dispersed to avoid large losses of materiel in case of attacks. This brought results and there were many times fewer enemy strikes against large depots.

It would seem that a similar approach should be applied to the question of huddling personnel within the enemy's effective firing range. But as you can see, despite several months of war, some conclusions are not made, hence the unnecessary losses, which, if the elementary precautions relating to the dispersal and concealment of personnel were taken, might not be.

Incompetence and an inability to grasp the experience of war continue to be a serious problem.

Peace be upon the souls of the dead. And I hope that after this story, conclusions will finally be drawn.
 
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On tweeter there is talk of 600 mobilised people who would have been in the building with an ammunition depot in the basement. The majority would have died.
From Rybar:
Translation

Regarding Makiivka

Came to the PTU from HIMARSa.
Mobilised people were being quartered in the building.
A significant number were killed and wounded.
The rubble was still being removed in the evening.

After strikes on large ammunition and fuel and oil depots, depots began to be dispersed to avoid large losses of materiel in case of attacks. This brought results and there were many times fewer enemy strikes against large depots.

It would seem that a similar approach should be applied to the question of huddling personnel within the enemy's effective firing range. But as you can see, despite several months of war, some conclusions are not made, hence the unnecessary losses, which, if the elementary precautions relating to the dispersal and concealment of personnel were taken, might not be.

Incompetence and an inability to grasp the experience of war continue to be a serious problem.

Peace be upon the souls of the dead. And I hope that after this story, conclusions will finally be drawn.
 
Casualties unknown, but said to be in the hundreds. This must really piss Russia off, all those cruise missiles and Ukraine kills more in a single strike.

We three hundred Russians of orient are,
bearing arms we traverse afar,
slave and tosser, microwave and washer,
here to steal your car.

O star of wonder, star of light,
they sat on on a basement of pentolite,
HIMARS speeding, now they're bleeding,
completely blown to shite.


 
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With a targeted strike against the Russian army, Ukraine has apparently killed hundreds of mobilized soldiers. Russian Telegram channels use the attack to launch a new campaign against the Russian Defense Ministry.
 
On tweeter there is talk of 600 mobilised people who would have been in the building with an ammunition depot in the basement. The majority would have died.
From Rybar:
Translation

Regarding Makiivka

Came to the PTU from HIMARSa.
Mobilised people were being quartered in the building.
A significant number were killed and wounded.
The rubble was still being removed in the evening.

After strikes on large ammunition and fuel and oil depots, depots began to be dispersed to avoid large losses of materiel in case of attacks. This brought results and there were many times fewer enemy strikes against large depots.

It would seem that a similar approach should be applied to the question of huddling personnel within the enemy's effective firing range. But as you can see, despite several months of war, some conclusions are not made, hence the unnecessary losses, which, if the elementary precautions relating to the dispersal and concealment of personnel were taken, might not be.

Incompetence and an inability to grasp the experience of war continue to be a serious problem.

Peace be upon the souls of the dead. And I hope that after this story, conclusions will finally be drawn.
Super unlikely anyone in that building survived. It's completely levelled.

 
The upheaval created by this affair in Russian public opinion is still to be followed, it is really getting excited on Telegram. What makes this case "exceptional"
  • the number of victims, which is enormous even on the scale of this conflict
  • the fact that they were mobilised, and not Wagner's *censored*s
  • the "stupid" character of the death of these men. I think it's easier to tolerate your loved one dying in battle on the front line than being killed like a c*n because their commander crammed 400 of them into a building with their asses on top of a stockpile of ammo.
We'll have to keep an eye on the evolution of this thing, to see if we stay in the "we don't criticize the war as such but the incompetence of the generals" pattern or if we start to see the emergence of a criticism of the military operation as such among the public.
The Russian authorities have even set up a kind of toll-free number for the relatives of the soldiers involved, which is quite exceptional

 
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The upheaval created by this affair in Russian public opinion is still to be followed, it is really getting excited on Telegram. What makes this case "exceptional"
  • the number of victims, which is enormous even on the scale of this conflict
  • the fact that they were mobilised, and not Wagner's *censored*s
  • the "stupid" character of the death of these men. I think it's easier to tolerate your loved one dying in battle on the front line than being killed like a c*n because their commander crammed 400 of them into a building with their asses on top of a stockpile of ammo.
We'll have to keep an eye on the evolution of this thing, to see if we stay in the "we don't criticize the war as such but the incompetence of the generals" pattern or if we start to see the emergence of a criticism of the military operation as such among the public.
The Russian authorities have even set up a kind of toll-free number for the relatives of the soldiers involved, which is quite exceptional

Apparently, that place was just 16 km from contact line. That commander messed up real bad.