Ukraine - Russia Conflict
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Why is US/NATO ISR aircraft still flying over Ukraine even though they have every right to be there...
Why is US/NATO ISR aircraft still flying over Ukraine even though they have every right to be there...
This is an excellent opportunity for the US to display some of the capabilities of the F-35 in a purely defensive role . Yes that's right. I was referring to it's capabilities in EA, ECM etc especially yours mine & our favorite - the E virus like Stuxnet part. The Ukrainians sorely need that from you now. Time to redeem yourselves & your reputation in your eyes & that of the world especially your allies, post Afghanistan. Show the Russians what you're capable of.
I sincerely hope the US takes the opportunity especially for the sake of your reputation out here unlike what they did in Afghanistan & as a result had to scram from there with their tail in between their legs massaging their backsides on the way out from all the bumming they got from the Taliban there.
The US won't actively deploy forces to Ukraine, it's why Biden said it so clearly so early. The US doesn't want to get bogged down fighting in Eastern Europe when the whole focus is shifting and retooling for the Asia Pacific theater. The US knows it can't delay focusing on China any longer, Russia knows this too which is why it is making these moves. As long as Russia stays off NATO turf, the US will just deploy a garrison force in nearby NATO members and pump Ukraine full of ATGMs, ammunition, firearms, mines, manpads, etc.
Saying or even posturing to get involved in any manner, when there is no intention to do so, will do more damage to US credibility as a security provider. Crippling sanctions on Russia as well as more military supplies to allies and Ukrainian rebels is all the US will provide.
Long time no see.
With the result you missed the action here. I'm aware the US has no intention to intervene in Ukraine. That post was aimed at your average redneck trailer park dwelling compatriot who is of the opinion that the F-35 is the 8th wonder of the world. He literally worships at the altar of the F-35. Forget criticism, try appraising it & he'd be at your throat before you can even bat your eyelids.
BTW how've you been? Ever since Biden's ratings started plummeting & he made statements like - EVs are the thing of the future. Just imagine. You can go from coast to coast on 1 gallon of gas - or something to that effect you just dropped out of sight.
Yes, it's been a while. just getting some free time again ^^
Ah I see I see. Yes there definitely are a lot of newer faces around here, I'm not all caught up on all their characters... or modi operandi lol. F-35 is a good platform but it's just that, a piece of a larger puzzle. How it is used and in what capacity is what matters. I personally found this video on the topic very interesting (the simulation is admittedly very very generous to the Blue side):
Haha I've been fairly busy the past few months! I assumed a lot of responsibilites at work, my dog died, I got covid, split with my girlfriend, did some renovations on my parent's home, my sister had a huge wedding, I moved to a new place, and I have been doing some light traveling for work. Things have begun to slow down and I'm finding more time for myself again. How have you been?
Of course, didn't you know that the new Tesla Model Hyperloop 69 can circumnavigate all of Mars? Hypberbole aside, EVs are definitely the future. No getting around the need to reduce emissions plus the reduction of oil dependence is an added strategic bonus (does this count as on topic since Europe needs to reduce dependency on Russian fossil fuels to meaningfully take action on Ukraine in the short term?
) . I can see hydrogen for larger vehicles but for regular passenger vehicles electricity is enough... just need to get solid state batteries working and make sure old man Joe doesn't go too senile before getting that infrastructure bill going!
India’s Stance on Ukraine Leaves West Scrambling As Jaishankar Calls Out Hypocrisy, Slams China - News18
The course of the conversation indicates that the agenda was to show India’s position on Ukraine as two-faced, a trap Dr Jaishankar dismantled bit by bit.
Ukraine crisis: Russia orders troops into rebel-held regions
The announcement has drawn wide condemnation but Moscow says troops have yet to be deployed.
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Xi did similar thing on india, in limited scale. Putin did it as large scale.
The difference in both cases are Ukrain in a defenseless country with no nukes, but india is not. Xi yet to declare grabbed territory as his openly, but putin did.
chinese & russian actions are not analogous to each other, russia had control over the area due to russian speaking population while tibet is under illegal occupation. In fact russia doesnt have to even fight, local population would do the job for them.Ukraine crisis: Russia orders troops into rebel-held regions
The announcement has drawn wide condemnation but Moscow says troops have yet to be deployed.
Xi did similar thing on india, in limited scale. Putin did it as large scale.
The difference in both cases are Ukrain in a defenseless country with no nukes, but india is not. Xi yet to declare grabbed territory as his openly, but putin did.
Ukrainian leaders must be twice born idiots , first time it was crimea and now the donbass region. It was pretty stupid of them to believe Nato will help them, they have become useful idiots for the west. They could have simply turned down Nato for the time being and retained the regions politically even though they had no control over the territory. West will make a lot of statements & impose sanctions on russia but ukraine will still be the loser.
Ukraine has some serious sh*** on its hands its not just losing territory it might end up becoming a landlocked country altogether if more land is lost. It might make it completely dependent on western europe for access to outside world.
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Novorossiya - Wikipedia
On one hand Russians will not want to cross the river as it's a defensive position. On the other hand if they don't Transintria will definitely be occupied by a pro west force.Ukraine has some serious sh*** on its hands its not just losing territory it might end up becoming a landlocked country altogether if more land is lost. It might make it completely dependent on western europe for access to outside world.
Novorossiya - Wikipedia
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No waivers in future for sure. But nothing will happen to us now. For USA Asia Pacific is more important than Europe.
USA has been trying to prepare Europe to fight its own wars. Maybe this will be the push they needed.
Total American focus on Asia Pacific will be a blessing for us.
If the Russians invade, while nothing will happen to existing deals, including the S-400, the US will put a lot of pressure on us to not make future deals happen.
Yep. Unless a country is dealing with China, military assistance is only for NATO countries. Everybody else is on their own.
Personally I don't really see another big ticket deal with Russia. May be a SSN. But other than that big ticket buys are not really on the horizon.
After Galwan Chinese dont want Blood and DeathsUkraine crisis: Russia orders troops into rebel-held regions
The announcement has drawn wide condemnation but Moscow says troops have yet to be deployed.
Xi did similar thing on india, in limited scale. Putin did it as large scale.
The difference in both cases are Ukrain in a defenseless country with no nukes, but india is not. Xi yet to declare grabbed territory as his openly, but putin did.
So they might attack Taiwan , but Taiwan is well prepared
You dont have to "Announce " Everything
By the way do you really think that Europeans will stop buying Gas and other Natural Resources from Russia
If Russia faces financial crunch
They will give more technology to us
Who will stop Russian ships and planes flying to India
When it comes to small countries, you either become a yes-man or you get bullied. Especially the case where balancing relations between two powers isn't a real option.
It's not that simple. If we don't keep buying Russian stuff, they are going to make it progressively harder and harder for us to maintain existing hardware. While the army is almost independent from Russian supplies, at least on paper, the navy and the air force are not. While the navy can progressively become less dependent on Russia by 2040, the IAF will only begin to replace the MKIs by then. We are basically stuck with them until the day we begin replacing the MKIs.
If we tell them the AK-203 and S-400 deals were the last large deals we will be signing with them, it will affect Brahmos-2, SSN and SSBN programs.
Our only leverage with the Russians is to keep buying more from them. But what we can do is buy less, but over long periods of time, like we did with the S-400 and Rafale.
That entire nation is filled with idiots, look at how easily they give up their nuke, strategic bombers & nuke delivery systems after getting independence.