US - Iran Flare Up

What Exactly has Iran Achieved by its Hatred towards US and Israel and
What have been their Achievements after
The Iranian Revolution

Given their Oil and Human Resources they could have been a Super power , More powerful than Turkey

Instead they are living like Thugs and Sea pirates
 
Iranian Clergy and the Moral Police
Or Anti Vice Police as the call them are the Worst Ruling Classes on Earth

The way they oppress and Torture their
Own women is , just a Shade Better than ISIS
Who cares? We don't have a dog in this fight. I'm taking great delight in the delusions of grandeur by the Irishman masquerading as a Brit threatening to unleash fire & brimstone against the Iranians to whimpering wimp threatening sanctions and down to rationalization.
 
Who cares? We don't have a dog in this fight. I'm taking great delight in the delusions of grandeur by the Irishman masquerading as a Brit threatening to unleash fire & brimstone against the Iranians to whimpering wimp threatening sanctions and down to rationalization.

Britain is a laughing Stock

As If it was Not enough being whipped by Americans, They are Being Hollowed from the inside by the Islamic Radicals
 
Put that down to sanctions & freezing their assets abroad aka daylight robbery in polite English like The Doctrine of Lapse and other similar British inventions. All thieving and buggery schemes couched in polite English.

And before we move forward let me commend you for obfuscation and convenient detours once more. There's nary a word from you on what your action against Iran may consititute after throwing a constipated tantrum out here.



Congratulations on getting Boris the clown as your new PM. I'm sure we are going to see nothing of the kind you'd love to see aka Falkland island scenario, Gulf War -3 etc to get your tankers out.

3 cheers for Iran for accomplishing what we ought to have but never got the opportunity for. I'd love to see another Iranian tanker impounded by the Brits in the Mediterranean.
:LOL: They're sponsors of terrorism, they deserve to be buggered and robbed.

The tanker wasn't even British as it happens, it was just flying a British flag as a flag of convenience. Just found this out on RT, you can apparently fly any flag you like on shipping. It's going to be one hefty price Iran pays for stealing a flag. They should have at least got a sandcastle thrown in. Oh wait, they already have a sandcastle, it's their country.:ROFLMAO:
 
What Exactly has Iran Achieved by its Hatred towards US and Israel and
What have been their Achievements after
The Iranian Revolution

Given their Oil and Human Resources they could have been a Super power , More powerful than Turkey

Instead they are living like Thugs and Sea pirates
Lol US and Israel hatred is a hoax , this stand is used by Iranian clergy to hold their power over their people similar to Pakistan using Kashmir to united its own people and quell domestic divergence
 
Wonder why they kept the other 21? Maybe there was a goat shortage.
 
Wonder why they kept the other 21? Maybe there was a goat shortage.
For all such shortages, the Americans & the Europeans are pressed into service. Remember the hostage crisis circa 1979. Don't worry, Paddy. Pretty soon they may target your only frigate down there , rescue your sailors and subject them to go at like treatment. Amen!
 
For all such shortages, the Americans & the Europeans are pressed into service. Remember the hostage crisis circa 1979. Don't worry, Paddy. Pretty soon they may target your only frigate down there , rescue your sailors and subject them to go at like treatment. Amen!
Terry Waite was eventually found on the toilet having a Shi'ite.

With all these male hostages, pretty soon I suspect you'll be visiting Iran on a sex tourism basis.
 
Feeling the burn .. ? Iranian law will take it's due course.. India trusts Iranian law ... lol :)
Why would I feel the burn? None of the crew were British and neither was the ship, only the flag was British and they are easily replaced.

As for Iranian law, I think you're playing fast and loose with the term 'law'. What you have is a lunatic theocracy barking orders. It's a Shia version of Pakistan.
 
Why would I bugger them Brits, when the Iranians are doing a good job of it. Since 1979.🤣🤣🤣
Because it's your thing. Since you realised that cows are a protected species in India, you've sought relief elsewhere.
 
In a naval confrontation with Iran, Great Britain can find neither ships nor friends

“The UK’s strategy, if you look at their most recent [Strategic Defense and Security Review], they say is that ‘Our job is to plug into a U.S.-led force in support of some larger operation, whether that is against a great power or against someone like a Libya,’” Clark said.​
“And they’ve designed a Navy and a force that’s like a small version of the U.S. Military, with the idea that they plug that in to the US military. And that led them to pursue those two aircraft carriers, submarines, and if you look on the ground, they’ve got some really high-end units, but they’re really small. They are designed to plug in.”​
The primary focus for the Royal Navy is to build its two new aircraft carriers, along with the escorts necessary to defend it, to augment a US force in a large-scale operation. The U.K. is also building a new ballistic missile sub to contribute to deterrence patrols. That strategy, however, leaves little for holding down presence in places where the U.K. has national security interests, Clark continued.​

The UK bet everything on being nothing more than a subservient component of US military might, with no capacity for independent action. So when the US leave them dry, they're left with nothing. They can sing "Britannia rules the waves" and dream that Brexit will bring their empire back; but the simple truth is that the UK has, out of short-term political expediency, let Britons become the slaves of Uncle Sam; believing that it was okay because of the "special relationship". But that "special relationship" is just one more British imperial delusion; the USA do not care about the UK's interests beyond looking at how they could align with US interests.

Since the UK couldn't count on the US for assistance here, they turned back to Europe. But since they've spent the last three years antagonizing the EU at every opportunity with that whole Brexit fiasco, and since they started this slapfight with Iran due to US demands and it makes the EU's diplomatic position more difficult, they're not having much success here. Besides it's not like most EU countries have a navy worth calling for assistance. In particular, the state of Germany's military is a complete joke, largely by design.
 
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-mulls-joining-european-persian-gulf-naval-mission/a-49773929

Germany mulls joining European Persian Gulf naval mission
Pressure is growing on the German government to lend its military weight to a potential European naval mission in the Persian Gulf. The UK government floated the idea of a joint European operation last Monday.





Wolfgang Ischinger, former German ambassador to the US and now head of the Munich Security Conference, on Sunday added his voice to calls for more German military engagement in the Persian Gulf.

There is an ongoing standoff over shipping rights between Iran and the UK, with both countries seizing oil tankers. Last Monday, London suggested setting up a European naval mission to defend the ships in the region.

Speaking to the Welt am Sonntag newspaper, the veteran diplomat insisted that Germany had a moral duty to play its part. "Hardly any other country is as dependent on the freedom of international shipping as export champion Germany," Ischinger said.

For that reason, he added, Germany should not just "watch from the sidelines" when a defensive mission in the Gulf was being discussed.

Read more: Iran-UK tanker standoff: What is the next step for Britain?

Not ruling anything out

For its part, the German government has not yet ruled out taking part. On Thursday, new Defense Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer suggested that Germany might take part in a European naval mission off the Iranian coast, though Foreign Minister Heiko Maas emphasized that the planning was still in its infancy.

"Whether Germany takes part can only be decided when we have clarity over the form of such a mission," he told the Funke Media Group on Friday.

He said that Germany would need to know whether such a mission would be under the auspices of the EU, or the United Nations, or some other international organization, and whether or not the ships would have to be prepared for combat.

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UK-Iran tensions over tanker seizure
Maas confirmed that he had discussed the issue with the incoming British foreign secretary, Dominic Raab, whose predecessor Jeremy Hunt floated the idea of a European naval mission on Monday. Maas said he was keen for the UK, France and Germany to present a united front separate from the path being pursued by the US.

"We will not take part in the American strategy of 'maximum pressure,'" Maas said. US President Donald Trump has employed increasingly belligerent rhetoric against Iran for the past year, in the hope of forcing a new Iran nuclear deal by threatening new sanctions.

The issue could cause a fresh rift inside the German coalition government, with members of the conservative half, Angela Merkel's Christian Democratic Union (CDU), favoring military engagement, while the center-left junior partner, the Social Democratic Party (SPD), takes a more skeptical line.

On Sunday, Die Welt newspaper quoted the SPD's interim co-leader Rolf Mützenich questioning whether it was wise to "leave a military footprint in a region where there is a threat of new wars."

Military situation

Last week, Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) seized the UK-flagged oil tanker Stena Impero in the strategic Strait of Hormuz, claiming that it turned off its transponder and failed to respond to distress calls after hitting an Iranian fishing boat. The ship and its crew of 18 Indians, three Russians, a Latvian and a Filipino are in the port of Bandar Abbas.

Britain said that there was no evidence the Swedish-owned tanker hit a fishing boat and that it was outside Iranian waters. The seizure has prompted criticism of the government in London about why it had not taken more proactive measures to protect its ships.

The seizure of the Stena Impero came two weeks after British Royal Marines impounded the Iranian supertanker Grace 1 off Gibraltar because of allegations it was taking oil to Syria in violation of EU sanctions.

Iran has referred to the British seizure of the Grace 1 as "piracy" and demanded the ship be freed.

Unlike Germany, France and Britain both have military bases in the region: France in the United Arab Emirates, the UK in Bahrain.
 
Besides it's not like most EU countries have a navy worth calling for assistance. In particular, the state of Germany's military is a complete joke, largely by design.
And yet they still managed to invade France twice. Well actually, 3 times now.


Whereas this sums up the French military.

Battle of Dien Bien Phu - Wikipedia

Two days later, the French artillery commander, Colonel Charles Piroth, distraught at his inability to silence the well-camouflaged Viet Minh batteries, went into his dugout and committed suicide with a hand grenade.

He had earlier complained that he had too many guns and not enough enemies.

Then later they still have the cheek criticise the US performance in Vietnam after their screw-up caused the damn war in the first place.
 
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