US - Iran Flare Up

Haha so you are saying it to those people who gave you asylum in your hard days?

That's why I'm wishing you guys all the best.

And in spite of the fact that when we came there were only Hindus in India, we consider your Pakistanis and Muslims also as the same people who helped us.

So while we do not want to take sides in this brother on brother war, we do, because this war is for this land and against Islam.

Cheers, Doc
 
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That's why I'm wishing you guys all the best.

And in spite of the fact that when we came there were only Hindus in India, we consider your Pakistanis and Muslims also as the same people who helped us.

So while we do not want to take sides in this brother on brother war, we do, because this war is for this land and against Islam.

Cheers, Doc
It's got nothing to do with you as a Hindu so I see no point in continuing it or not.

Eventually it's between us and them.

I wish you guys all the best in your own war. With your own blood.

Cheers, Doc

Every thread you are dragging it around the same line.

Continued degradation of discussions will invite a ban. Consider this as last warning, don't play victim after.
 
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Bolton says Iranian tanker in Syrian port

Bolton says Iranian tanker in Syrian port

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Iran is a sovereign state and as such is well within its right to sell its oil to any other sovereign state. Trump and his minions should stop bulling sovereign states from conducting legitimate commercial activities.
 
Iran is a sovereign state and as such is well within its right to sell its oil to any other sovereign state. Trump and his minions should stop bulling sovereign states from conducting legitimate commercial activities.
Syria is a failed state.
 
Air strikes kill 18 pro-Iran fighters in east Syria: monitor

Air strikes kill 18 pro-Iran fighters in east Syria: monitor


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Members of the pro-Syrian government forces ride on a tank as it drives down a street in the Syrian border town of Albu Kamal (AFP Photo/STRINGER)

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Beirut (AFP) - Air strikes hit positions of pro-Iranian forces and allied militias in eastern Syria overnight, killing 18 fighters, a war monitor said Monday.

It was not clear who carried out the raids in the region of Albu Kamal near the border with Iraq, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.

The Britain-based Observatory, which has a vast network of contacts across Syria, said "18 fighters were killed, but their nationalities have not yet been determined".

Albu Kamal lies in Deir Ezzor province which covers much of Syria's remote eastern desert, where the Islamic State group's so-called "caliphate" made its last stand this year.

Control of the area is split between US-backed Kurdish fighters and groups aligned with the Damascus regime, which is supported by Iran and Russia.

In June 2018, strikes near the Iraqi border killed 55 pro-regime forces, mostly Syrians and Iraqis, the Observatory said.

An American official said at the time that Israel was responsible, but the Jewish state declined to comment.

Israel has carried out hundreds of strikes in Syria targeting what it says are positions of Lebanese Shiite movement Hezbollah and Iranian forces, which it has vowed to prevent gaining a foothold on Syrian territory.

Iran, its allied militias and Russia have backed Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad in the country's devastating eight-year civil war.

Pro-regime forces in Deir Ezzor are operating with the backing of various foreign armed groups including Iraqis and Iranians.

The Kurdish-dominated Syrian Democratic Forces control a swathe of territory further north in the province, which it seized from the Islamic State group in a months-long campaign backed by US-led coalition forces.

The Syrian conflict, which broke out in 2011 with the bloody repression of anti-regime demonstrations, has become a complex war, dragging in regional and international powers and leaving more than 370,000 people dead.
 
Still a sovereign state recognized by UN.
Ah yes, the UN, that great institute of irony where dictators get a vote.

Moreover i think its Bashar's ambassador who represents Syria at the UN. US and EU cant decide for rest of the world what is and what is not a sovereign state.
But of course Assad can decide for the rest of Syria that it is his sovereign state. How dare the US or EU unilaterally interrupt his unilateral tyranny.
 
Ah yes, the UN, that great institute of irony where dictators get a vote.


But of course Assad can decide for the rest of Syria that it is his sovereign state. How dare the US or EU unilaterally interrupt his unilateral tyranny.

UN doesn't get to choose the governments. Dictatorships and Tyrants govern half of the UN member states, that has never been disqualification criteria. If there was a democratic opposition i would have gladly supported them. The opposition battling Assad regime have been accused of worst human rights abuses.
 
UN doesn't get to choose the governments. Dictatorships and Tyrants govern half of the UN member states, that has never been disqualification criteria.
Well... maybe it should be. Nobody voted for them to act as representatives for their people, so who's interested in their vote? They have as much right to vote at the UN as my cat, and I don't even have a cat.

If there was a democratic opposition i would have gladly supported them. The opposition battling Assad regime have been accused of worst human rights abuses.
So has Assad though, even before the war started and his father before him. I'm sure if he agreed to hold an election with full-UN oversight, peace could prevail.
 
Well... maybe it should be. Nobody voted for them to act as representatives for their people, so who's interested in their vote? They have as much right to vote at the UN as my cat, and I don't even have a cat.


So has Assad though, even before the war started and his father before him. I'm sure if he agreed to hold an election with full-UN oversight, peace could prevail.

UN cannot vote a government in, but they can accord recognition to one. They recognized Assad regime as the lawful government Syria and as such Assad govt has the right to conduct Syria's sovereign affairs. Syria was as peaceful as a dictatorial state in ME could be, before west decide to bring Arab spring to that unfortunate country.
 
UN cannot vote a government in, but they can accord recognition to one. They recognized Assad regime as the lawful government Syria and as such Assad govt has the right to conduct Syria's sovereign affairs. Syria was as peaceful as a dictatorial state in ME could be, before west decide to bring Arab spring to that unfortunate country.
Unfortunately recognition of something as something doesn't make it so. If you dress an ar5e up correctly it'll look like a pair of tits but it won't be.

Arab spring brought itself, the US no doubt intervened thereafter but so did Russia and Iran... and IS... and Al-Quaeda etc. The only real problem with US interventions is the long list of ne'er-do-wells who try intervening at the same time. And then of course the US gets blamed for the affect of all the interventions combined.
 
Unfortunately recognition of something as something doesn't make it so. If you dress an ar5e up correctly it'll look like a pair of tits but it won't be.

Arab spring brought itself, the US no doubt intervened thereafter but so did Russia and Iran... and IS... and Al-Quaeda etc. The only real problem with US interventions is the long list of ne'er-do-wells who try intervening at the same time. And then of course the US gets blamed for the affect of all the interventions combined.
Doesn't matter who is dressed as what. Bottom line is Iran can sell its oil to another sovereign state like Syria and there is no international law that considers this a statutory violation. US and EU national policies are not international law.
 
Doesn't matter who is dressed as what. Bottom line is Iran can sell its oil to another sovereign state like Syria and there is no international law that considers this a statutory violation. US and EU national policies are not international law.
No but they do have the power to enforce them, unlike 'international law/lawlessness'.
 
So affairs of sovereign states will now be governed by the laws of USA. If you were an American i can understand why you wish this were true.
It will be governed by a consensus of democratic states, by leaders with a legitimate mandate to lead.
 
It will be governed by a consensus of democratic states, by leaders with a legitimate mandate to lead.

Do you see USA governing sovereign states like India, China or Iran. May be you meant to say USA ' will try to govern independent sovereign states not under its occupation'. Poor attempt to promote Neo-colonialism.