US - Israel - Iran War

No conclusive evidence of Rafales being downed as well. Didn't see it as an inhibitor for Indian members here to believe that narrative which non Indian members read - specifically Chinese & American members jumped into promoting their narrative which some here bought lock stock & barrel.
Pretty sure a video of M 88 was flying around. People will believe such theories if some kind of information is not relayed by the MoD ( I wouldn't say it was their fault necessarily but no information being relayed during wartime does stem a lot of conspiracies). I am not outright rejecting the downing, I am just saying there is no conclusive evidence for the jet to be F 35.
You mean the pilot would stick around waiting for the Iranians to show up & take him into custody ?

This kind of thinking prevails when you see the movie after the interval or as we put it in Mumbai - chadti train mein chadna aur phir manzil poochna.
I'd expect the local authorities of Iran to capture the pilot if the location of where the ejection occurred is available. Maybe it will take some time for the authorities to capture the pilot that's why I added "might" in my original comment.
 

President Donald Trump is desperate not to fight a war with Iran.

But can he really avoid it?

Compelling national security arguments and domestic political considerations mean it makes sense to stop short of direct US offensive operations in the long-dreaded conflict that Israel describes as a matter of preserving its own existence.

But powerful forces could suck America deeper into the conflict than its current role in helping to shield Israel from Iran’s deadly rain of missiles and drones.

CNN reported that over the weekend, Trump rejected an Israeli plan to kill Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, according to two sources.

But some of this is out of Trump’s hands.

Should Iran’s battered regime decide it has nothing to lose and attack US bases and personnel in the region, or US targets across the globe, Washington will be forced to respond hard to preserve credibility and deterrence. Another possibility is that Tehran could create duress on Trump to rein in Israel by attacking international shipping in the Gulf or Red Sea and bring on a global energy crisis.

Pressure is also mounting on Trump from inside his own party for action that only the United States could carry out — a mission to destroy Iran’s subterranean site at Fordow, which is believed to be beyond Israel’s airborne capabilities. The logic of such a strike would be that Iran is now uniquely vulnerable, and a better chance may never come for the US to destroy the possibility of an Iranian nuclear weapon.
 
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Pretty sure a video of M 88 was flying around.

Flying around is just about the right way to describe it.
People will believe such theories if some kind of information is not relayed by the MoD ( I wouldn't say it was their fault necessarily but no information being relayed during wartime does stem a lot of conspiracies).

How old are you ? It's an honest question. I ask for you seem young enough NOT to know that all agencies involved in war or war like situations have absolutely no obligation to reveal information of any kind except the bare minimum & what's deemed as absolutely essential.

Now this isn't typical to India its the way the world operates which is the reason you've censorship during a war , the reason the west banned all Russian media at the start of the Ukrainian war.

SM amplifies what people would've otherwise discussed within their closed groups & that amplification quickly takes a life of its own. Another reason to exercise censorship of some kind during such times.

I am not outright rejecting the downing, I am just saying there is no conclusive evidence for the jet to be F 35.
Pretty sure a video of M 88 was flying around.
Evidence is as solid or weak depending on your perspective , as that of the video of that M-88 "flying" around.

I'd expect the local authorities of Iran to capture the pilot if the location of where the ejection occurred is available. Maybe it will take some time for the authorities to capture the pilot that's why I added "might" in my original comment.
Maybe the network Mossad has set up there to assemble drones load them on trucks & fire them at pre determined targets after extensive manual recconaissance , including by its own special forces apart from local collaborators have already enabled that pilot to get out of Iran.
 
An Israeli AH-64A/D Apache helicopter used to intercept Iranian Shahed-136 drones. An Israeli AH-64 Apache helicopter shoots down Iranian drones using a 30mm automatic cannon.

 
How old are you ? It's an honest question. I ask for you seem young enough NOT to know that all agencies involved in war or war like situations have absolutely no obligation to reveal information of any kind except the bare minimum & what's deemed as absolutely essential.

Now this isn't typical to India its the way the world operates which is the reason you've censorship during a war , the reason the west banned all Russian media at the start of the Ukrainian war.

SM amplifies what people would've otherwise discussed within their closed groups & that amplification quickly takes a life of its own. Another reason to exercise censorship of some kind during such times.
Pretty sure I mentioned " I am not necessarily blaming them" . I stated the obvious that no comments on certain allegations makes several people start conspiring which is what happened, I am not trying to pin it on anyone.
Evidence is as solid or weak depending on your perspective , as that of the video of that M-88 "flying" around.
Hmm and I said that their isn't any conclusive evidence about the wreckage in the video to be a F 35. It could be F 16 or some other jet.
Maybe the network Mossad has set up there to assemble drones load them on trucks & fire them at pre determined targets after extensive manual recconaissance , including by its own special forces apart from local collaborators have already enabled that pilot to get out of Iran.
Eh, it is a possibility but I'd say local authorities catching onto the pilot is much more likely. In such cases local authorities are always the first ones to act afaik.
 
Not really a conclusive evidence for it to be F 35, it could be some other jet as well. I'd say we should wait for more news to come out on this.

+ Iran hasn't revealed the pilot either so might be fake.
It's AI generated he's just coping. No IAF fighters have been shot down or gone down yet but the longer the war goes and the intensity IAF is using their strike fighters eventually it's going to happen.
 
It's AI generated he's just coping. No IAF fighters have been shot down or gone down yet but the longer the war goes and the intensity IAF is using their strike fighters eventually it's going to happen.
Ah , sweetie from Culo Vista - the city east of Chula Vista's here at nearing 2 am Monday early early morning .

AI generated is it ? Same like the "M-88" video ? No ? Of course not !

That M-88 video was genuine coz the French & Indians were involved but the F-35 can't be downed coz the Great Satan & their minion Zion is involved . Ja ?
 
There are close to 10K Indian students in Iran. Being relocated to Armenia. It seems escalation is about to come to region once NATO assets are in place.

 
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Ah , sweetie from Culo Vista - the city east of Chula Vista's here at nearing 2 am Monday early early morning .

AI generated is it ? Same like the "M-88" video ? No ? Of course not !

That M-88 video was genuine coz the French & Indians were involved but the F-35 can't be downed coz the Great Satan & their minion Zion is involved . Ja ?
Sweetie was touting Rafale 0-3 everywhere and now Karma seems to have catch up to him with F-35s 0-3, lolol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
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Despite having almost 100% air superiority and (possibly) lot of watching from satellites (US & Israel), how come Israel is not able to locate & eliminate all of Iran's missile launch pads? Remember, other than bunch of offensive missiles, Iran is no where near Israel in military might. Iran has negligible IADS.

Or Is it that no country can eliminate all missiles launch pads of another nation i.e. such an objective is simply not possible?

Iran's missile bases are underground and cannot be breached easily.

And there's not enough time between TELs deploying from safe locations and launching to Israelis picking up the deployment and attacking it. This is a weakness of distance.
 
Sweetie was touting Rafale 0-3 everywhere and now Karma seems to have catch up to him with F-35s 0-3, lolol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Zion has managed to impose air superiority over the air space of Iran not air supremacy. The Iranians still have a lot of SAMs & TELs tucked away evidence of the latter we're seeing practically every night.

Sweetie being sweetie , of course , thinks taking down those Nucular sites is a cinch . Ja ? @Innominate

That's one of the reasons the IsAF hasn't proceeded with the total elimination of Natanz Fodrow , etc as opposed to the peripheral damage caused by incessant bomb raids .

I believe Zion would prosecute this target using a combination of the GBU -57 borrowed from The Great Satan & the C-130 or C-130 J .

The latter 2 have the range not the speed or stealth obviously & needs to be escorted . However for that to happen the ground space below has to be completely sanitized from SAMs . This will take time.

The alternative is the US enters the war which will send the entire ME into a downward spiral for then Iran will begin targeting oil extraction , refining & storage sites of the Gulf Sheikhdoms sending prices soaring across the world.
 
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