Lok Sabha passes Citizenship Bill amidst Opposition outcry

How is that relevant in facilitating Path to Citizenship for migrants fleeing religious persecution?

there are no migrants man. There are either illegal migrants or refugees. A family living for 30 years as illegal migrants are not given automatic citizenship. They either apply for asylum and prove their case or get booted out. India citizenship is very clear. BOTH PARENTS need to be Indians for even the children to become citizens. Else they are illegal migrants until they declare themselves refugees. You think in 30 years they can’t apply if their case was legitimate?
 
India citizenship is very clear. BOTH PARENTS need to be Indians for even the children to become citizens.
Are you sure.
Does Rahul Gandhi Ring a bell, the mother surrendered her Italian passport to the Italian Embassy on 27 April 1983?
And I am sure Rahal baba was born before that.
 
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Are you sure.
Does Rahul Gandhi Ring a bell, the mother surrendered her Italian passport to the Italian Embassy on 27 April 1983?
And I am sure Rahal baba was born before that?

then put that case in the court. No one stopped you. And yes the law is ABSOLUTELY CLEAR on that. An illegal migrants which means persons here for Economic or other purposes will not be given citizenship and even if he marries a local and has children even those children will not be given citizenship. Why do you think there is such a huge backlash in Assam ? they are concerned about all illegal migrants and not only migrants from One community they want all of them booted out. whether that needs to be done or not is a different issue but people who remain here must follow the process of applying for asylum you think that you are UK Or the US allow any kind of relaxation’s?
 
BOTH PARENTS need to be Indians for even the children to become citizens
If you are born in India before 2004.. one of your parents can be an illegal immigrant, and the other legal..for those born after 2004.. one parent should be citizen of India.. and the other not an illegal immigrant...
 
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then put that case in the court. No one stopped you. And yes the law is ABSOLUTELY CLEAR on that. An illegal migrants which means persons here for Economic or other purposes will not be given citizenship and even if he marries a local and has children even those children will not be given citizenship. Why do you think there is such a huge backlash in Assam ? they are concerned about all illegal migrants and not only migrants from One community they want all of them booted out. whether that needs to be done or not is a different issue but people who remain here must follow the process of applying for asylum you think that you are UK Or the US allow any kind of relaxation’s?

Oops, You did not get it.

What you wrote is factually wrong, (sperils of following dimwits like sibal and co)

"Any person born in India on or after 26 January 1950, but prior to the commencement of the 1986 Act on 1 July 1987, is a citizen of India by birth. A person born in India on or after 1 July 1987 but before 3 December 2004 is a citizen of India if one of parents was a citizen of India at the time of the birth"
i.e 26th Jan 1950 to 1 July 1987 > Born In India > Citizen. Even if both parents are Martian
July 87 to 2004 > One parent Indian = Citizen

Those born in India on or after 3 December 2004 are considered citizens of India only if both of their parents are citizens of India or if one parent is a citizen of India and the other is not an illegal migrant at the time of their birth.


hope that clarifies.
 

Why don't you watch answers from a far better Lawyer?
Kapil Sibal is a good lawyer.. but he is also a presumptuous poseur... Do, you think Amit Shah would not have consulted the best lawyers before drafting the Bill..

There are two things to consider..
1. The word refugee is never mentioned in the CAA, the non Muslim non-citizen immigrants are referred to as persons every time. Also, India is not a signatory to the UN refugee convention.
2. The word "persecution" is also never mentioned in the CAA.. but is only mentioned in the object's and reasons..

The way I see it. The non muslim illegal immigrants who entered India on or before 31 December 2014, from Afghanistan, Pakistan or Bangladesh, have ceased to be "illegal immigrants" now, after Presidential nod to the act. They are now eligible to be naturalized as Indian citizens. They need not even prove they are persecuted, and just need to prove that they are from Afghanistan, Pakistan or Bangladesh..
 
Oops, You did not get it.

What you wrote is factually wrong, (sperils of following dimwits like sibal and co)

"Any person born in India on or after 26 January 1950, but prior to the commencement of the 1986 Act on 1 July 1987, is a citizen of India by birth. A person born in India on or after 1 July 1987 but before 3 December 2004 is a citizen of India if one of parents was a citizen of India at the time of the birth"
i.e 26th Jan 1950 to 1 July 1987 > Born In India > Citizen. Even if both parents are Martian
July 87 to 2004 > One parent Indian = Citizen

Those born in India on or after 3 December 2004 are considered citizens of India only if both of their parents are citizens of India or if one parent is a citizen of India and the other is not an illegal migrant at the time of their birth.


hope that clarifies.

that is exactly what I said
Kapil Sibal is a good lawyer.. but he is also a presumptuous poseur... Do, you think Amit Shah would not have consulted the best lawyers before drafting the Bill..

There are two things to consider..
1. The word refugee is never mentioned in the CAA, the non Muslim non-citizens are referred to as persons every time. Also, India is not a signatory to the UN refugee convention.
2. The word "persecution" is also never mentioned in the CAA.. but is only mentioned in the object's and reasons..

The way I see it. The non muslim illegal immigrants who entered India on or before 31 December 2014, from Afghanistan, Pakistan or Bangladesh, have ceased to be "illegal immigrants" now, after Presidential nod to the act. They are now eligible to be naturalized as Indian citizens. They need not even prove they are persecuted, and just need to prove that they are from Afghanistan, Pakistan or Bangladesh..

lol Amit shah did this to be legal....
 
This is congress's last resort to create an issue for gen elections 2024. And I personally do not think that there will be elections in 2024.
 
whatever I have seen on this thread till now shows one thing very clearly. The muslim population of India is extremely uneducated and can be easily used to foment trouble as they get fooled very easily. I always thought that Pakistanis are the worst lot but I think Indian Muslims out do them in every manner including lack of brains. People are burning properties and resorting to arson without even having a clue of what the issue is. If 70 years of education and appeasement has produced a useless population, imagine what will happen if they grow more in numbers. This 14-15% population is a complete burden on the society.
We were always told that its the uneducated and jobless muslim youths who get fooled by extremist ideology but the slogans like Kabr khudehi hinduon kee and hinduaon say azaadi were raised in the top most muslim universities. The muslim youth who raised those slogans were not uneducated but highly educated.
 
Born and raised here.

I think the Assamese can tell you about that better than me. A lot of the insurgencies in NE started with language and demographics but later morphed into something else altogether. A lot of them got support from abroad. In case of the Bodo and some others support came from China. In Tripura our insurgents got support from the Baptist Church of New Zealand and some Maoists from West Bengal and Jharkhand. All of the supporters have their own independent, sometimes conflicting motivations.

Church is involved in dirty deeds down here in kerala too. But they have a huge grip on the media, so most people are unaware safe for a few incidents.
whatever I have seen on this thread till now shows one thing very clearly. The muslim population of India is extremely uneducated and can be easily used to foment trouble as they get fooled very easily. I always thought that Pakistanis are the worst lot but I think Indian Muslims out do them in every manner including lack of brains. People are burning properties and resorting to arson without even having a clue of what the issue is. If 70 years of education and appeasement has produced a useless population, imagine what will happen if they grow more in numbers. This 14-15% population is a complete burden on the society.
We were always told that its the uneducated and jobless muslim youths who get fooled by extremist ideology but the slogans like Kabr khudehi hinduon kee and hinduaon say azaadi were raised in the top most muslim universities. The muslim youth who raised those slogans were not uneducated but highly educated.
Whole Kerala is a waste too. It's pretty much the same thing here. No arson and violance, but people here just as clueless and anti-CAA (this includes hindus and christians too).
 
whatever I have seen on this thread till now shows one thing very clearly. The muslim population of India is extremely uneducated and can be easily used to foment trouble as they get fooled very easily. I always thought that Pakistanis are the worst lot but I think Indian Muslims out do them in every manner including lack of brains. People are burning properties and resorting to arson without even having a clue of what the issue is. If 70 years of education and appeasement has produced a useless population, imagine what will happen if they grow more in numbers. This 14-15% population is a complete burden on the society.
We were always told that its the uneducated and jobless muslim youths who get fooled by extremist ideology but the slogans like Kabr khudehi hinduon kee and hinduaon say azaadi were raised in the top most muslim universities. The muslim youth who raised those slogans were not uneducated but highly educated.
Educated Muslims are as prone or more prone to jihadi indoctrination than poor muslims.. the only difference is that university educated muslims on an average tend to have lesser number of children than uneducated ones...
 
do you know what happened in Assam? The muslims used old voter bank of dead assamese muslims to add BD muslims as their progeny. This has resulted in the warped NRC in Assam. Muslims used our system to circumvent our system. LOL.
 
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