I don't know any protest in India that was considered legal by the govt of the day its supporters. even the India against corruption protests led by Anna Hazare was deemed to be a RSS sponsored communal agitation. Political leaders are not being arrested, because they have been more or less bystanders in the current protests. However lots of protesters are being arrested just for holding protest placards and drawing protest Rangolis on the street. While violent protests should be condemned, if you look at the anatomy of all violent protests, then generally take place when nthe state makes it a prestige point to not allow any kind of protests. protests appear to have turned violent in BJP run states, because the state was determined to to allow any kind of reasonable protests, whereas non BJP states sought to allow protests to carry on unmolested, even if it was for their own political expedience.
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I don't know any protest in India that was considered legal by the govt of the day its supporters. even the India against corruption protests led by Anna Hazare was deemed to be a RSS sponsored communal agitation. Political leaders are not being arrested, because they have been more or less bystanders in the current protests. However lots of protesters are being arrested just for holding protest placards and drawing protest Rangolis on the street. While violent protests should be condemned, if you look at the anatomy of all violent protests, then generally take place when nthe state makes it a prestige point to not allow any kind of protests. protests appear to have turned violent in BJP run states, because the state was determined to to allow any kind of reasonable protests, whereas non BJP states sought to allow protests to carry on unmolested, even if it was for their own political expedience.
One of the biggest problems of the Muslim community, esp in north were they are most concentrated, is the lack of community leadership or a party to represent them. Imagine Hindu community and its interest being represented by Muslims or Christians. A true constitutionally trained leadership would have been useful means to channelize Muslim aspiration and interests, within the ambit of the law and would have helped better integrate the community into the national mainstream( much the like SP and BSP have helped integrate the SC/ST and the OBC groups in the national mainstream). However with the Muslims depending on the Hindu dominated parties to represent their interests and with the inexorable decline of the congress, which pretended to better represent Muslim interest, and the rise of BJP which did not hide its antipathy towards the Muslims, their anxiety about not being represented was , by appearance, getting pronounced.
While any kind of misplaced appeasement must be eschewed, however the responsibility to represent their interests falls upon national parties like BJP and congress. No party can govern India if the 180 million of its citizen are forced to live in a state of fear and anxiety. can we really deny that such fear and anxiety does not exist and is only imagined. The state needs to ensure that Muslim kids get secular and progressive education that helps them integrate with the main stream. Allow them to live their lives with the belief that they will not be hounded for their beliefs. Let us not hold the Muslims of india to account for deeds that happened in the distant past. Like i said 180 million people cannot be cowed down, rather they need to be accommodated without recourse to appeasement.
Yes, every one is aware that in NRC there were more hindus than muslims who got missed. So if you have any solution, please tell me where are you going to send those hindus once NRC is completed.
Israel is protecting every jew in the world, and here we are fighting with eachother when it comes to protect hindus.
We are shameless creatures.
Oh bhai mere, you can explain this to us but you can't to them. Because every muslim kid goes to Madarsa for few months, and rich Muslims bring a molvi home or now days there are online classes being given to modern muslims in EU, UK , USA even in India. Madarsa at home kind of.
Go and tell them to integrate with us. Tell them to give their women to a hindu for marriage and then I will ask you what will be their reply. You are talking theoretical talks past 5 pages and with unrealistic and imaginative approach.
You can't bring any one in mainstream unless until there is matrimonial relation and this a fact.
Forget BJP, congress, NRC, these are party politics, but Muslims don't run through your party politics. You allow them to follow their religion, eat beef, and entertain their wahabi interest, they will vote for you the day you stop that they will change their votes.
So you support:
1) Voting based on religious lines (religious electorate that led to India being split)
2) support south being independent to north
3) claim everything Hindu is rss, everything rss is fascist and everything fascist is Nazis
4) ask for separate rights for Muslims even if they are not Indians
Now.. where did I hear all this before?
These protests have removed any hope of Muslims coming into power of any kind for decades.
Pretty much. Previously even in SM, Bengali Hindus would jump in to defend Muslims. Past few days I'm seeing the very very clear split in SM comments ( don't go by statua updates from Kolkata academia people, that's a whole different alternate reality). I'm seeing the same almost in other places too.
Nothing consolidates people more than mullas charging to burn people. Who would've thought. Certainly not these idiots.
This is happening because the bill shows the reality of oppression of other religions by Islamic countries. It will clear the facade of victim hood claims of Muslims.
That's a big problem. Because everywhere you go, the first thing you hear is about an oppressed Muslim and his reason to throw stones or burn a bus.
That's a big problem. Because everywhere you go, the first thing you hear is about an oppressed Muslim and his reason to throw stones or burn a bus.
Indians need to rise above party politics. Because every time there will be good or bad, these politicians and oppurtunistics will try to hijack it and make a political issue out of it. India can never be a developed country or rise in status if every time Indians keep looking inwards and thinking its a political issue or etc. It's good to think inwards when you are meditating in statecraft look outward. You have so many Islamic countries as your neighbour for god sake think about it.
If every one here wants India to be economic power and knowledge power, Indians need to make two things clear don't make all issues related to politics, some have greater goals, outward goals, and second is get rid of Pakistan as early as possible.
If every one here wants India to be economic power and knowledge power, Indians need to make two things clear don't make all issues related to politics, some have greater goals, outward goals, and second is get rid of Pakistan as early as possible.
How many police officers suffered a head injury and ended up in icu because of Anna Hazare?
How many stones were thrown?
Anna hazare applied for protest at Jantar Mantar, how many of these Peacefools have applied to protest in the streets of Bombay?
Anaa Hazare went on hunger strike in jail to protest his arrest and government's inaction on anti corruption issues. How many peacefool leaders and Congress went on hunger strike like Anna?
Go to 2011 Protests wikipedia page and try searching for violence. You won't find a single word like in the entire narrative. Now try doing same for any Peacefool protest.
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Look at their faces and you people want hindus to stay there? They can't bear the mantra for 5 minutes, half of the jaahils did not know whats going on, and here in India they put loud speakers and tell us to tolerate the azaans, and their violence, burning trains and what not sh*t!!!
Go to hell all of you, go and wear bangles, go and look at the face of your mom and sisters and yourself, go and clap with eunuch. How long , how long should a community suffer like that?
One word - Spineless creatures bound to vanish.
We are so brainwashed that we happily sacrifice our entire religion and country for these cockroaches. If such thing happens , first step should be to stop Libturds and hypocrites from leaving this country and face their own doing
Look at them look at those kids and women and girls, some sickulars in India want them to get raped and get converted by Pakistani mullahs and produce muslims kids and eat beef. And then talk every thing from Mamta to BSP, to politics,, to constitution to , vote bank.. etc. But they don't want them in India, they don't have any action plan.
We should be ashamed big time ashamed. We should see our faces in mirror and spit on mirror every day and call our selves spineless hijdaas!!
Can any one imagine what would be the condition of these hindus if they go on protest for their rights and burn buses and throw stones.
Only in India we tolerate such things and no where else it happens in the name of constitution.
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“The government is making it tougher for its friends to defend it… at this rate, it is losing friends in places where it had bipartisan support earlier,” : Foreign diplomat No outreach on CAA, foreign diplomats warn: India fast losing friends ( )
(@YusufDFI) Tweeted:“The government is making it tougher for its friends to defend it… at this rate, it is losing friends in places where it had bipartisan support earlier,” : Foreign diplomat No outreach on CAA, foreign diplomats warn: India fast losing friends ( )
The level of ignorance the protesters have demonstrated is very surprising actually. It's like the protesters simply live for this kinda thing.
Ignorance? They know every thing! They are venting out the anger for tripple talaq , ayodhya verdict and congressis are provoking them.
The college students actually do live for these kind of protests. We're brought up on stories of revolution, making a difference Nd all that. Then there's "revolutions" going in all around the world. College students feel like they need to join in, to somehow change the world and make a difference.
Yusuf Unjhawala
“The government is making it tougher for its friends to defend it… at this rate, it is losing friends in places where it had bipartisan support earlier,” : Foreign diplomat No outreach on CAA, foreign diplomats warn: India fast losing friends ( )
This anonymous diplomat saying nonsensical things..
Anybody possessing an IQ contained within a peanut can understand the CAA is fine.
The fact in a democracy is that when you are a religious minority, your interests will always have to be represented at the apex political body, by parties headed by a religious majority. Like Labour in UK and Dems in US are expected by muslims to defend and represent Muslim interests. But on the other side, it is equally important for a minority which constitutes 15 percent of India's population to have healthy representation in the parliament, just as Dalits and OBCs want their community to have healthy representation in the parliament. What SATA emphasized is that Indian Muslims today are missing charismatic muslim leaders, who could motivate them, to better integrate with a largely Hindu society, while being a role model to ordinary muslims..