Lok Sabha passes Citizenship Bill amidst Opposition outcry

S. A. T. A said:
@_Anonymous_ Think we may have the answer for all our anguish.
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Man, you've kept this up for months now not only here, but also in DfI till you were banned.

You know what? I'm now positively sure you have never faced a Murderous Muslim mob. Come to Bengal. I'll strap you to a train that the Muslims are stoning and burning, prattle on then. Meanwhile leave the rest of us to defend ourselves and bash the skulls in of rioting *censored*s.

Where tf do you even live? Have you ever seen what things happen in Muslim majority areas? Or what these people do to Hindus?

Here's the issue. You're stuck at emergency, and the rest of us at Direct Action Day and the many many riots Muslims have started. We're looking at two different contexts.


At this point, BJP, RSS doesn't even matter. What matters is there are chuslims thinking they'll riot and burn us to death. To hell with that. If that's ours choice, I know what I'll do. It sure as hell won't be singing secularism while they rape me *censored* naked.
 
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BlackOpsIndia said:
The lady is intentionally translating the verse wrong to make it more presentable and can get into serious trouble by fellow jihadis for calling it same as in other religion. It is considered out right blasphemy.


Oh No Sir, never, never did I expected fact and logic from you.

My play is simple, question your lies, point them out and see your shallow counters devoid of facts and logic in public. So that some young kids getting fascinated by Nazi BS see how strong is the argument backing it.

The more you lie and don't answer the counter and goes into "Modi is Hitler, you are Nazi" the little is the impact of your lies. And if you do answer someday something worth learning it will only improve me. I don't lose here sir, lies do.
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The more you pretend to be on a mission to expose others, the greater your communal, minority baiting bigotry is coming forth..... It seems, inadvertently of course, that i have been exposing you a little by little every time. However this doesn't give me any distinct pleasure.
Deathstar said:
I think u dont consider West Bengal as part of India ???? Or u think there was absolute peace in Bengal. Or u forget it cz it isnt a BJP ruled state hmmmm.
There's 144 imposed for 2 months in liberal ruled Maharashtra but u wont call them fascist , would you?
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Nobody died from police firing in WB. All deaths occured in Assam, Karnataka and UP.
 
vstol Jockey said:
Abidance with law includes every mean to uphold law and that includes legal and illegal means to ensure rule of law. Please read our constitution. It states that with every means available, you will uphold the law of land. Every means include illegeal also. Do you know that UP police was fired upon by agitators using illegal and prohibitive weapons?
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If I'm not very wrong, our Constitution does allow formation of militias when attacked. So 3 trucks of people are actually legal in context of murderous Muslim mobs attacking.
 
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What is the gaurantee that those illegal Bangladehis have not migrated to other states of India?

NPR, NRC CAA would require mass number of people working to feed data, don't you think that will increase employment?
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Illegal migrants can be in other states, but only in numbers which the local law enforcement agencies can handles under existing legal provisions. You don't see America doing an annual exercise, equivalent to our proposed national NRC, in order to detain illegal migrants. Its common sense.
 
S. A. T. A said:
Constitutionalism is all about desiring the ideal way of life and not giving into baser instincts inherited as a cultural heirloom. If we can argue that the police is corrupt and biased, the same can be said about the some of the protesting citizens, they too can be prejudiced and less than ideal. The law exists to protect citizen, from bias, discrimination and prejudice. Communal bias among the civilians and Police should be condemned and should not be the basis upon which to apply law. The religious tone in this protest was caused by the Govt bringing in a law which discriminated, while granting citizenship, on the basis of religion. Of course any surprise the protest have peculiar religion undertone.
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Constitutionalim is idealism. Rationalization is recognising the ground realities & pragmatism is bridging the gap between rationalization & idealism while getting the job done with the tools you're provided with as opposed to what you desire. Hence the axiom politics is the art of the possible especially in a functional democracy whatever be it's faults.

The act is one of positive discrimination not of negative discrimination. It prioritizes a set of people while not keeping anybody out of it's ambit. That's the political genuius of this Act much like the repealing of Article 370 was done by exercising one of the provisions of the very same article.

I doubt most of those who participated in those protests had any idea of what the CAA entailed . A video asking most prominent personalities what they found objectionable in the CAA cut a sorry figure.Farhan Akhtar being a case in point.If members active on such blogs as this have such disputes as we're having and I'm referring to us coz we're much better aware of current affairs as opposed to the unwashed lot , as one former member ( God Rest his soul) put it so eloquently once upon a time

Besides I'd be very interested in a commission of enquiry to look into how these protests commenced & descended into riots .
 
Cole_phelps said:
For how long will you give these retards justification? Where is news of 77 infants died in kota, Rajasthan? Is there a thread on these clowns for this gross mismanagement? But everyone knows there was shortage of oxygen cylinders in yogis UP "once upon a time"

I think many here enjoy being in witness box giving unnecessary explanations to closet commies over non issues.

77 infants died. No award wapsi? No farticle in NYT, WT, WSJ? Jihadis like barkha and rana ayub are nowhere to be found.
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I have raised these issues in the past, but then i get accused of being a south Indian supremacist and parochial.
 
S. A. T. A said:
The more you pretend to be on a mission to expose others, the greater your communal, minority baiting bigotry is coming forth..... It seems, inadvertently of course, that i have been exposing you a little by little every time. However this doesn't give me any distinct pleasure.


Nobody died from police firing in WB. All deaths occured in Assam, Karnataka and UP.
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So no deaths? So its not important? Rioters burnt train boggies and police took no action , so wheres the law and order here?
Police have all right to shoot if required. Even Ram Rahim supporters were shot. Law and order is more important than any individual life.
 
Deathstar said:
So no deaths? So its not important? Rioters burnt train boggies and police took no action , so wheres the law and order here?
Police have all right to shoot if required. Even Ram Rahim supporters were shot. Law and order is more important than any individual life.
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Don't listen to him.

The police in WB are working hand in glove with the Muslims under Mamata. That's why there was no police action till day 3. All the Muslims they subsequently arrested have been released. They even did a fake BJP-did-a-false-flag evidence planting to remove the image of mullahs charging with fire images from the public mind. Mamata even shut off internet so that the Muslims could riot without the public getting to see the images.


Every year there are about 3-4 Muslim riots in Bengal.
 
Sanglamorre said:
Don't listen to him.

The police in WB are working hand in glove with the Muslims under Mamata. That's why there was no police action till day 3. All the Muslims they subsequently arrested have been released. They even did a fake BJP-did-a-false-flag evidence planting to remove the image of mullahs charging with fire images from the public mind. Mamata even shut off internet so that the Muslims could riot without the public getting to see the images.


Every year there are about 3-4 Muslim riots in Bengal.
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And that guy blatantly terms some as mass murderers. What a bloody hypocrite
 
S. A. T. A said:
Citizens of this country will not be benefit from an imagined existential threat. However a tottering economy and rampant unemployment, issues from which the govt is trying to shift focus, will certain threaten the existence of a significant number of citizens.
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Imagined existential threat?? Now what do you mean by that sir??
I think we have enough sample data in form Pakistan, Bangladesh, Kashmir, WB, Kerela, Kairana and so on to determine that this threat is real and imminent. I will try to share an article for your benefit.
Now coming to the question of economy and joblessness then I do agree government is not doing enough there and I do want that my nation has world's largest economy but then again all this money will worth nothing if I would not be alive due to being murdered.
 
S. A. T. A said:
The more you pretend to be on a mission to expose others, the greater your communal, minority baiting bigotry is coming forth..... It seems, inadvertently of course, that i have been exposing you a little by little every time. However this doesn't give me any distinct pleasure.
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You sir exposed me completely, now I am naked, naked Nazi will you call it? Or blood baying naked RSS Sanghi?

Oops can anyone please hand me towel here, sir just exposed me too much. Seriously no mission here, just fed up of lies and frauds masquerading as intellectuals.

On topic: Anyway no new instruction/argument against CAA today? Didn't see bollywood walas and other eminent personalities producing anything new today. What happened? Left nothing or just realized the counter consolidation you have provided to 'Hitler'?

Also is that why tweets of others are being posted here as argument? Till you get new set of arguments it should rinse and repeat of old settled issues.

BTW I loved your try to bring in caste too into this, somehow keeping it alive, even when nothing. Try that favorite 'Godse' receipe now that 'caste' receipe didn't work out.
 
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Sanglamorre said:
Man, you've kept this up for months now not only here, but also in Other Forum till you were banned.

You know what? I'm now positively sure you have never faced a Murderous Muslim mob. Come to Bengal. I'll strap you to a train that the Muslims are stoning and burning, prattle on then. Meanwhile leave the rest of us to defend ourselves and bash the skulls in of rioting *censored*s.

Where tf do you even live? Have you ever seen what things happen in Muslim majority areas? Or what these people do to Hindus?

Here's the issue. You're stuck at emergency, and the rest of us at Direct Action Day and the many many riots Muslims have started. We're looking at two different contexts.


At this point, BJP, RSS doesn't even matter. What matters is there are chuslims thinking they'll riot and burn us to death. To hell with that. If that's ours choice, I know what I'll do. It sure as hell won't be singing secularism while they rape me *censored* naked.
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Beg your pardon, don't recall being banned anywhere. I have stopped posting in DFI after the moderation team failed to act against personal attacks and name calling. My posting style is never rancorous, argumentative perhaps, enough to attract punitive actions. I understand many of us live in areas, which historically have lived through tumultuous communal passions and 70 odd years later is yet to evolve into a society that has overcome its historical communal baggage( this holds true for Hindus and Muslims). However this is also a terrible indictment on the kind of national building exercise that the leadership in those areas have adopted in those years. Instead of asking where i live( i live in Bangalore)istead you should be asking why we have pockets in this country where Hindus and Muslims bay for each others blood and cannot live in the spirit of accomodation. perhaps the latter would prove to be a more fruitful exercise.
 
Ankur Singh (@iAnkurSingh) Tweeted:
Pic 1: After speaking against Modi govt

Pic 2: After speaking against Left govt in Kerala

Ayesha Reena trusts Modi police for not harming her, but knows Leftist goons can do anything.

Guess who's Fascist? Ankur Singh on Twitter (
https://twitter.com/x/status/1211309750941446144
)

Also time to revisit "Shero" & the definition of fascism up North & down South . All those who hail from God's own land, do note. You too @Arvind
 
S. A. T. A said:
Illegal migrants can be in other states, but only in numbers which the local law enforcement agencies can handles under existing legal provisions. You don't see America doing an annual exercise, equivalent to our proposed national NRC, in order to detain illegal migrants. Its common sense.
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The issue is not restricted to illegal immigrants buddy. The idea of NRC and CAA is larger than you have understood.

The current government wants to expose how the previous governments tried to settle the illegals from particular community inside India for votes. The demographic change in India is a planned practice for appeasement politics. Had there been no awareness, Rohingyas would have become Indian citizens, marrying Indian girls.

You come to India you marry Indian girl, you will become Indian citizen. And congress was giving this opportunity to the illegal Bangladeshis and later Rohingyas. In return they would always vote for congress. The local MLA's and people in central government were providing them with documents through out.

This is the game being played.
 
_Anonymous_ said:
Rishi Bagree ऋषि 🇮🇳 (@rishibagree) Tweeted:
This is what Peaceful CAA protesters did to Indian Railways in West Bengal Rishi Bagree ऋषि on Twitter (
https://twitter.com/x/status/1211305466627645440
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Time to relook what peaceful protestors did. No clue if the train was burnt when ferrying passengers or when it was stationary in a car shed.
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But look at the bright side, burned, burned alive so you never know if anyone died, just like in Godhra.

Plus it is not ruled by BJP so a burning train and station can't kill anyone as we have established violence only happened in BJP ruled states. Are you sure this is not CGI effect for new upcoming movie funded by Ambani to save his friend Modi? Looks suspicious to me, may be Arundhati Rai's venture Alt News can do a reality check.
 
S. A. T. A said:
Beg your pardon, don't recall being banned anywhere. I have stopped posting in Other Forum after the moderation team failed to act against personal attacks and name calling. My posting style is never rancorous, argumentative perhaps, enough to attract punitive actions. I understand many of us live in areas, which historically have lived through tumultuous communal passions and 70 odd years later is yet to evolve into a society that has overcome its historical communal baggage( this holds true for Hindus and Muslims). However this is also a terrible indictment on the kind of national building exercise that the leadership in those areas have adopted in those years. Instead of asking where i live( i live in Bangalore)istead you should be asking why we have pockets in this country where Hindus and Muslims bay for each others blood and cannot live in the spirit of accomodation. perhaps the latter would prove to be a more fruitful exercise.
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It's not pockets. It's pockets where the Muslims have majority or 15%+ population. The answer is too many Muslims. Even in their own countries for lack for non-muslims, they kill each other on who is the best Muslim. The nation building exercise has failed because they failed to eject these desert culters or at least bind them to lower numbers. What what do you mean historical baggage? The last mulla riot was a couple weeks ago. It's not history, it's present.

Edit: please do not resort to personal attacks
 
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Ankur Singh (@iAnkurSingh) Tweeted:
Pic 1: After speaking against Modi govt

Pic 2: After speaking against Left govt in Kerala

Ayesha Reena trusts Modi police for not harming her, but knows Leftist goons can do anything.

Guess who's Fascist? Ankur Singh on Twitter (
https://twitter.com/x/status/1211309750941446144
)

Also time to revisit "Shero" & the definition of fascism up North & down South . All those who hail from God's own land, do note. You too @Arvind
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Oh my god , i am stunned , one true gods only country is it? Lmao .
How dare u point fingers at Europe of India aka Kerala. Their USP is they migrate to gelf
 
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Constitutionalim is idealism. Rationalization is recognising the ground realities & pragmatism is bridging the gap between rationalization & idealism while getting the job done with the tools you're provided with as opposed to what you desire. Hence the axiom politics is the art of the possible especially in a functional democracy whatever be it's faults.

The act is one of positive discrimination not of negative discrimination. It prioritizes a set of people while not keeping anybody out of it's ambit. That's the political genuius of this Act much like the repealing of Article 370 was done by exercising one of the provisions of the very same article.

I doubt most of those who participated in those protests had any idea of what the CAA entailed . A video asking most prominent personalities what they found objectionable in the CAA cut a sorry figure.Farhan Akhtar being a case in point.If members active on such blogs as this have such disputes as we're having and I'm referring to us coz we're much better aware of current affairs as opposed to the unwashed lot , as one former member ( God Rest his soul) put it so eloquently once upon a time

Besides I'd be very interested in a commission of enquiry to look into how these protests commenced & descended into riots .
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Pragmatism demanded that the state take care of the interest of the citizens of Assam, who have been loyal citizens of the country and render many them, by the application of this act, minorities in their own land. I'm afraid Indian state is doing to Assamese what the kashmiri muslim rulers did to the pundits of the yore. The act is not only discriminating, but injurious to the welfare of the state. these migrants mostly poor economic migrants, with little to no useful skills, will be a bane to the local economy and not mention a cause for future strife in ethically tense Assam. By enacting this act we may have permanently condemned the state of Assam to a future state of communal and ethnic strife. People who are against the CAA are perfectly aware of what the CCA+ NRC entails and only the gullible and prejudiced see them in isolation and pretend them to be benign.
 
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