Delhi, UP and Haryana : Political Discussions
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But kejriwal cant even talk about successful implementation of WIFI in delhi
We will have to ask the voters why they
Preferred , why did they prefer Kejriwal
By the way if AAP decides to make lots of Money in the second term then Governance will suffer
Sir ji , dont talk of elections during an
Economic slowdown
Atleast we have time till 2024
That is the Best thing about the current debacle ie time to do better and improve your standing
These same folks will throw AK out if he fails to deliver - the emotional indian voter.
AAP won because BJP last time also came up with a weak candidate and this time also braught some nautanki baaz from Bihar. I told you BJP is not interested in New Delhi.
Nothing about Freebies or what so ever.
I agree , because people understand the difference between state governance and defence + foreign policy.
People want to have modi for foreign policy.
Really? When BJP top guns were flown in to distribute pamphlets and go door to door begging for votes? Their foolish comments and activities have magnified AAPs victory. This election will only give more impetus to regional parties to consolidate and gang up against BJP. However, there is no rival to Modi till 2029, even from within, unless he gets chucked out like Advani in his old age.
That doesn't matter who is coming in for the speeches and all. What matters is whom are you placing as a candidate for the CM post. That Manoj Tiwary has no political experience, never did any social work just came out from films and entered politics.
You think such a bhondu candidate will beat Kejriwal who is actually a leader? Come on!
The regional parties can't challenge Lok Sabha elections, it has happened and they called it Maha-Thugbandhan and they failed. 2024 Modi will win Lok sabha again!
Spoke to some of my friends in Delhi. Said they didn't have to shell INR 2k or so for electricity bill and INR 1k water bill after Kejriwal doled out freebies. Voters didn't bother about anything else.
Delhi, today, has taken India back a decade considering what price we will have to pay by clipping Modi's wings further and giving platform to Urban Naxals. Thankfully Delhi is a UT or damage could have been worse.
Kejriwal can't sell Delhi model. Because Delhi is a bifurcated territory not even a state. As I have mentioned many times, Delhi has three jurisdiction one with army one with delhi govt and one with central govt + law and order is with Centre.
Make Every state UT then that's all he can sell.
40% of Delhi is unauthorized and illegally built where this freebies work. These 40% are top to bottom corrupt people.
Delhi Police's yearly budget is $1.2 Billion, paid by whole nation. I think it's time to handover Delhi Police to Delhi Govt 
and then will ask why Kejriwal stopped giving Freebies to Delhi janta 
and then will ask why Kejriwal stopped giving Freebies to Delhi janta 
BJP needs to seperate state and National issues.
CAA / NRC is national security issue. UCC is same.
An Indian voter is not as dumb as anyone thought. They very well know the issues to vote for.
Ordinary voter voting for state elections doesnt care for Kashmir , Refugees , Pakistan. He cares about simple issues like roti kapda makan
CAA / NRC is national security issue. UCC is same.
An Indian voter is not as dumb as anyone thought. They very well know the issues to vote for.
Ordinary voter voting for state elections doesnt care for Kashmir , Refugees , Pakistan. He cares about simple issues like roti kapda makan
That's true but I am little disappointing due to the fact that why BJP brought that chaman ch.. as CM candidate?
Sir , do you really think bringing CAA before Delhi election was a good move
Now opposition is claiming that Modi lost because of CAA
People in Delhi don't care about Ram Mandir or CAA or UCC like in other states.
Water, electricity, pollution, school fees and law and order are the main issues in Delhi . I knew that BJP would lose. Only some one who is from Delhi can counter Kejriwal. Bringing some one from Bhojpur and making him fight elections in New Delhi is top blunder.
BJP tried to get votes from Bhaiyas but that didn't work. Because these Bhaiyas live in Jhuggis and illegal apartments where Kejriwal has given Free bijli and paani.
Punjabi community in Delhi is business community they don't like Biharis so they would have never voted for this Birju from patna. Secondly, they are fed up of Modi because of GST and Demonetisation because the business community in new Delhi is very corrupt. They are the ones who funded AAP so that Kejriwal doesn't raid their shops.
Delhi is not straight like other states, it's a complex society. Only who is born in and around delhi haryana would know how to win the elections. Kejriwal is from Haryana so he knows about Delhi.
The Hindu thing will fail in New Delhi. Money and facility talks because people in Delhi don't really give a damn about politics and politicians.
Sheila Dixit was from new Delhi so she knew what to do.
On law and order you can't question AAP or Delhi govt beause Police is under Modi govt. So it's a complex region.
Contrary to what you think. Modi & Shah are more committed to the core Sangh ideology than say Advani or Vajpayee were. Enacting the CAA isn't going to get them votes in their millions except for a section in Assam & WB. Similarly implementing the NRC is going to get them a lot of brickbats. Yet they will be implemented not only because it's needed in any modern nation state but also coz it's an article of faith with them. Don't mix this up with electoral politics.
As regards Delhi since the days of Madanlal Khurana & SS Verma, Delhi BJP was consumed by infighting. Hence towards the end of the BJP's term in office, Sushma Swaraj was bought in as a compromise candidate. She was unable to stem the rot & INC under Sheila Dixit ruled for 15 years. Since the loss of both Khurana & Verma, BJP hasn't been able to put up a leader who'd be acceptable to Delhi. Hence you had Kiran Bedi the last time & now Manoj Tiwari. Finally, any amount of money thrown , nukkad sabhas, campaigning by all the top brass can't make up for honest hard work at the grass roots level with a trust worthy & acceptable face at the top of Delhi BJP. I'm sure there were many who'd have considered the BJP but in the absence of these factors preferred voting for AAP. The BJP would have to realise that if it means business they ought to get committed party workers who toil day & night in order to build their narrative from today and not when the dates of the next elections are announced. Its easier said than done though.
Funny part is Congress basking in AAPs moment of glory going by their statements in the media & on SM . An outsider could be forgiven for thinking the Congress has won The elections .The GOP has truly reached rock bottom and seems to be rather enjoying it's stay there.
Surely Modi will win 2024, but it will be his last term - I feel Modi will meet the same fate as Advani, or even worse, as karma is a $$$$$. Modi = Nicolas Ceausescu. If BJP keep losing out on state elections, all their plans will face unnecessary opposition and 2024 will see them lose majority in both houses. We have seen how WB and Kerela have been a thorn in the side for BJP. Imagine having to deal with several non-BJP states.
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I believe that we need a Spell of
" Khichdi Government " to make a mess
Only then people will realise the value
Of Stable Modi Government
As I said earlier , CAA NRC or UCC are not
Resonating among the Floating Voters
That is also called the Swing Voters
Only the Core BJP supporters will stand by them , But that is Not enough
In 2024 , opposition will be more aggressive than in 2019
Even in 2019 it was Pulwama and Balakot which caused Consolidation
In favour of BJP