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Ammunition Factory Khadki in Pune sends first consignment of 40 mm UBGL ammunition to BSF

The Khadki Ammunition Factory in Maharashtra's Pune has sent the first consignment of 40 mm UBGL ammunition to the Border Security Force, the Ministry of Defence said on Wednesday.

This ammunition is fired from a launcher fitted under the barrel of 5.56 mm Rifle (INSAS).

"Inspired by the Prime Minister’s clarion call for an Atmanirbhar Bharat, Ammunition Factory Khadki, Pune, wrote a new chapter on self-reliance and indigenization of 40 mm UBGL Ammunition production on 11 August 2020 by sending the first consignment to Border Security Force," the ministry said in a press release.

40 mm UBGL ammunition is designed and manufactured by Ammunition factory, Khadki with the components sourced from Indian Industries. It has various advantages over traditional hand grenade, including its lightweight and 400-metre range against the 30 metres of hand grenade.

It can be fired by the same equipment (INSAS) held by the soldier and is also safe for the personnel.

There are four varieties of this ammunition: 40 mm UBGL (Practice), 40 mm UBGL (HEAP), 40 mm UBGL (HEDP) and 40 mm UBGL (RP).

This ammunition is imported by Army and Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) units and there was a perceived need to indigenise its design and manufacture, the Defence Ministry said.

MK Mohapatra, Sr General Manager, Ammunition Factory, Khadki had handed over the Inspection Note of the 40 mm UBGL (Practice) manufactured at AFK to BSF DIG Ashok Kumar Jha on August 4.

Hari Mohan, DGOF & Chairman, Ordnance Factory Board and MK Mohapatra, Sr GM Ammunition Factory, Khadki flagged off the First Consignment of 40 mm UBGL (Practice) to BSF in the presence of senior officers of OFB, AFK and Members of JCM, Works Committee and Unions & Associations on August 11.

With this event, Ammunition Factory Khadki joined the national endeavour to make India self-reliant in direction of defence production and save valuable foreign exchanges by way of import substitution, the ministry said.
 
Parthu said:
I don't recall that well but I've heard Ordnance Factories actually can no longer export firearms to civilian markets abroad, at least not without exhaustive government clearances. A lot of the bolt action Ishapore 2A1s you can find in US are actually bought off in bulk (lumped together with other weapons, items etc.) from countries like Nepal.

The Inglis HP and SMLEs in .308 can find many takers in civilian market in West. However enterprise is not to be expected from OFB.
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That is just plain stupid.
 
Parthu said:
I don't recall that well but I've heard Ordnance Factories actually can no longer export firearms to civilian markets abroad, at least not without exhaustive government clearances. A lot of the bolt action Ishapore 2A1s you can find in US are actually bought off in bulk (lumped together with other weapons, items etc.) from countries like Nepal.

The Inglis HP and SMLEs in .308 can find many takers in civilian market in West. However enterprise is not to be expected from OFB.
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I actually thought that maybe I should pick one up, but then I feel that CZ75 really is the successor to the HP, so maybe find something else that is interesting. CZ52 is an interesting item.
 

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This is without a doubt the best looking OFB gun. Love the :
1. Free floating fluted barrel
2. The stock and the adjustable rear end
3. The pistol grip !! OMG the grip ! Never seen a grip this good from OFB. All the previous ones are frankly a poor excuse of a grip.
4. The trigger looks light. Trigger guard is still traditional circular. But whatever it should work just fine.
5. M-LOK rails !! Holy fu*k !?!?! Is this really from the OFB ?
6. MIL STD-1913 picatinny rail integrally machined in at 12o'clock and a mini 1913 add-on at 6o'clock for the bipod
7. The optics are well mounted. With previous OFB guns mounting modern optics, retaining a zero seemed like an after thought. That's not the case here.

Now the negatives :
1. The magwell🤮 WTF is that ?
2. The bolt doesn't have a bob at the end. This may not seem like much, but it helps with quick reloads.
3. I do hope that bolt is a Mauser bolt
4. The barrel needs threading at the end to be able to mount suppressors, muzzle brake etc. But that's a minor problem.
5. The bipod needs to be more rigid for 0.338 guns as they have much higher recoil. Check the SSS Defence 0.338 rifle.

Overall, its not a bad attempt at all. I do hope they keep gradually improving the design/functionality and not sleep on it like they did with the INSAS. In any case its good to see some domestic competition for the Army's 0.338 cal sniper tender. May the best gun win.
 
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This is without a doubt the best looking OFB gun. Love the :
1. Free floating fluted barrel
2. The stock and the adjustable rear end
3. The pistol grip !! OMG the grip ! Never seen a grip this good from OFB. All the previous ones are frankly a poor excuse of a grip.
4. The trigger looks light. Trigger guard is still traditional circular. But whatever it should work just fine.
5. M-LOK rails !! Holy fu*k !?!?! Is this really from the OFB ?
6. MIL STD-1913 picatinny rail integrally machined in at 12o'clock and a mini 1913 add-on at 6o'clock for the bipod
7. The optics are well mounted. With previous OFB guns mounting modern optics, retaining a zero seemed like an after thought. That's not the case here.

Now the negatives :
1. The magwell🤮 WTF is that ?
2. The bolt doesn't have a bob at the end. This may not seem like much, but it helps with quick reloads.
3. I do hope that bolt is a Mauser bolt
4. The barrel needs threading at the end to be able to mount suppressors, muzzle brake etc. But that's a minor problem.
5. The bipod needs to be more rigid for 0.338 guns as they have much higher recoil. Check the SSS Defence 0.338 rifle.

Overall, its not a bad attempt at all. I do hope they keep gradually improving the design/functionality and not sleep on it like they did with the INSAS. In any case its good to see some domestic competition for the Army's 0.338 cal sniper tender. May the best gun win.
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Don't see Safety switch or Mag release button? shouldn't there be one?

What abt backup iron sights? no?
 
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Don't see Safety switch or Mag release button? shouldn't there be one?
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The bolt is on the right hand side so the gun is meant for a right handed shooter. The safety is normally accessible by the index finger or thumb of the shooting hand. Some sniper like the Accuracy International guns have safety on the end of the bolt, but that's not the case here.

If it is made to be accessible by the index finger then it has to be on the right side. But I don't see it.
Maybe it is to be accessed by the thumb, so it should be just above the grip on the left side.

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What abt backup iron sights? no?
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Back up iron sights or back up micro-red dots are available in picatinny rail compatible mounts & can be purchased off the shelf no problem. They can be mounted on the top rail or even on the sniper scope with/without an offset angle. IMO back up micro-red dots are a better choice, but iron sights work fine too.
 
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Those muzzle brakes look new. All these years of license manufacturing the Vidwanshak, OFB couldn't make any changes to the original NTW-20 design. Except the muzzle brake and the scope mount. Let's hope they do make some changes to make the gun more portable.

Those 20mm are massive bullets(black training round).
 
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This is without a doubt the best looking OFB gun. Love the :
1. Free floating fluted barrel
2. The stock and the adjustable rear end
3. The pistol grip !! OMG the grip ! Never seen a grip this good from OFB. All the previous ones are frankly a poor excuse of a grip.
4. The trigger looks light. Trigger guard is still traditional circular. But whatever it should work just fine.
5. M-LOK rails !! Holy fu*k !?!?! Is this really from the OFB ?
6. MIL STD-1913 picatinny rail integrally machined in at 12o'clock and a mini 1913 add-on at 6o'clock for the bipod
7. The optics are well mounted. With previous OFB guns mounting modern optics, retaining a zero seemed like an after thought. That's not the case here.

Now the negatives :
1. The magwell🤮 WTF is that ?
2. The bolt doesn't have a bob at the end. This may not seem like much, but it helps with quick reloads.
3. I do hope that bolt is a Mauser bolt
4. The barrel needs threading at the end to be able to mount suppressors, muzzle brake etc. But that's a minor problem.
5. The bipod needs to be more rigid for 0.338 guns as they have much higher recoil. Check the SSS Defence 0.338 rifle.

Overall, its not a bad attempt at all. I do hope they keep gradually improving the design/functionality and not sleep on it like they did with the INSAS. In any case its good to see some domestic competition for the Army's 0.338 cal sniper tender. May the best gun win.
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Holy F***.
thats some sexy looking dope. fairly modern looking too.
 
AbRaj said:
@Milspec what do you think about this.
And considering that they have such a huge experience in making firearms, what do you think why they failed to make a decent and modern AR copy.
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Bcos no one in ofb gives a *censored*.
Coming to the sniper system presented here, pretty much anyone can do that and provided they want to.
Here MPA- Master Piece arms, from the name you can judge it's pedigree, For ages it built a little ghetto'ish blowback pistol now it builds drop in chassis for remington 700's
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Now that chassis turns this plain jane looking remington 700
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Into this cool looking precision rifle:

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AR - Meaning Assault Rifle is a different game, Type of action, Barrel build quality, precision small parts, all of that packaged into a robust system that needs to go through through testing. Thats a different game altogether. OFB's AK's were not accepted by Indian Army, Imagine *censored*ing up an AKM. With every part available online for you to copy, with you tube tutorials to build the recievers with Bottle jacks, and you *censored* up building an AK, go to russia and buy AK license, the same rifle that people build in their shops here in the US and improve upon it. What's next going to Colt to het license for AR15? Thats where OFB stands.

Building a Bolt action rifle, not so much. fewer moving parts, as long as you can build an accurate barrel with offcourse imported hammer forges you are good to go.
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It is the same reason that HVF Avadi or Vehicle factory Jabalpur doesn't produce world class products that the rest of the world is lining up to buy or for that matter any of the DPSU's. That same attitude runs in OFB, it will do just good enough.
The culture is more of a the local Tailor Shop that has been tailoring clothes for your grandad, and now you. There is no desire to grow, no desire to become a manufacturing powerhouse or a world leader in design and innovation. Just do enough to get through the year.
 

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Off topic ;
Funny that your quoted a WWII 9mm pistol, I dont know if you were referring to the Auto 1A but from ofbindia's website they no longer even make the "Pistol 9mm 1A", which is a travesty ... that was the best product ishapore made.
Even today a Glock 19 retails for $530 whereas a Browning Hi Power retails for $1190, almost twice. None of the stock wonder 9's at this point are as valuable as the Hi power, not the CZ75, not the Berreta 92fs, not the glock or the sig p226.

Although Auto 1A which is a licensed copy of the Hi-Power (Inglis) might be of WWII vintage, it's one of those rare things that stand the test of time till now. I really hope they resurrect the Hi Power with a double stack and offer it to law enforcement; if nothing re engineer the thing to take 9mm makarov or 380acp and introduce it to the civilian market , if not export the stock as surplus to US or something. Remember this is one of the rare firearms to be adopted by Waffen SS, British SAS and even the US OSS. Writing all this stuff about the Hi Power makes me want to have one now.

@Falcon @Ashwin @Parthu
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the hi power already has a double stacked magazine.
 
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This is without a doubt the best looking OFB gun. Love the :
1. Free floating fluted barrel
2. The stock and the adjustable rear end
3. The pistol grip !! OMG the grip ! Never seen a grip this good from OFB. All the previous ones are frankly a poor excuse of a grip.
4. The trigger looks light. Trigger guard is still traditional circular. But whatever it should work just fine.
5. M-LOK rails !! Holy fu*k !?!?! Is this really from the OFB ?
6. MIL STD-1913 picatinny rail integrally machined in at 12o'clock and a mini 1913 add-on at 6o'clock for the bipod
7. The optics are well mounted. With previous OFB guns mounting modern optics, retaining a zero seemed like an after thought. That's not the case here.

Now the negatives :
1. The magwell🤮 WTF is that ?
2. The bolt doesn't have a bob at the end. This may not seem like much, but it helps with quick reloads.
3. I do hope that bolt is a Mauser bolt
4. The barrel needs threading at the end to be able to mount suppressors, muzzle brake etc. But that's a minor problem.
5. The bipod needs to be more rigid for 0.338 guns as they have much higher recoil. Check the SSS Defence 0.338 rifle.

Overall, its not a bad attempt at all. I do hope they keep gradually improving the design/functionality and not sleep on it like they did with the INSAS. In any case its good to see some domestic competition for the Army's 0.338 cal sniper tender. May the best gun win.
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i dont think those are mlok slots, probably just for cooling.
 
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First image looks suspiciously a rip off of the AK ALFA,
The last one looks like ACR stock cobbled up on an AK, that's the upgrade?
 
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@Milspec @Gautam @zapper @Maximus

With AK 203 orders almost done.

Import ban of 101 items., will it change anything?

And Indian private sectors are all lining up with Rifle making.

Among the private sector, who has done work in the lines of R & D?

Who appears promising?

Afterall we need more than license building to develop our industry.
 
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