Man Portable Anti-Tank Guided Missile (MPATGM) Developments : Updates & Discussions

Amogha-3 is a watered-down version of the MPATGM. Reduced weight, reduced range, reduced armour penetration & of course reduced price.
It apparently has an advanced (some say better than the one on Nag/Helina) EO/IR seeker with AI algos + aiming sight from Tonbo.
 
There'll be division in the ATGM procurement as well - you'll see.

The bulk of the mass will be met through MPATGM or Amogha-3, depending on which finally turns out to be cheaper. But a significant number of Western-spec ATGMs will more than likely be procured as well.

And the formations that will use them will be operating alongside the Strykers.

There you go, Javelin co-production is going ahead.


@randomradio
 
This garbage failed trials in thar desert. We are deliberately sabotaging our indigenous systems.

America is not a reliable partner, this blunder is going to cost us huge in near future.

Sab bech khaya modi ne.
Possibly an appeasement buy. We don't want tariffs after all. Our manufacturing is starting to pick pace. A shock like that would hurt us far more than putting a domestic system on the backburner would.
 
This garbage failed trials in thar desert. We are deliberately sabotaging our indigenous systems.

America is not a reliable partner, this blunder is going to cost us huge in near future.

Sab bech khaya modi ne.

We won't be using it in Thar but in Ladakh/Arunachal.

We've suggested some minor improvements to the Javelin system seems like, we'll be re-trialing soon.

We need to create SOPs & training regimens for some important US-spec equipment to be used along the LAC if we expect the US to resupply us with additional stocks of that equipment in case of a war with China.

ATGMs are going to be a critical resource in any conflict with the PLA. Our domestic factories may be attacked/degraded in a prolonged war. The option of foreign resupply has to be kept open as a back-up, at least until our GNP grows to a respectable level vis-a-vis China which can successfully deter any aggression from the PRC.
 
We won't be using it in Thar but in Ladakh/Arunachal.

We've suggested some minor improvements to the Javelin system seems like, we'll be re-trialing soon.

We need to create SOPs & training regimens for some important US-spec equipment to be used along the LAC if we expect the US to resupply us with additional stocks of that equipment in case of a war with China.

ATGMs are going to be a critical resource in any conflict with the PLA. Our domestic factories may be attacked/degraded in a prolonged war. The option of foreign resupply has to be kept open as a back-up, at least until our GNP grows to a respectable level vis-a-vis China which can successfully deter any aggression from the PRC.
There will be no scope left for MPATGM orders, chandigarh lobby is bouncing back stronger than ever.

Aatmanirbharta has became jumlebaazi.
 
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No, MPATGM and/or Amogha-3 will inevitably come. In fact they will form the bulk of the ATGM arsenal.

We cannot afford to go for an all-Javelin arsenal even if we want to.
Javelin is till the time amogha3, mpatgm get mature enough to take the bulk. Both spike and Javelin are complementary. We still need the kornet E's too in our arsenal.
 
U need US/NATO weapons to fight Chinese no matter how many indigenous alternative you have . During war our stocks will be used and we need to use sto ks from US/NATO inventory. If that things to happen those systems must already a part of india or else our force will not be in a position to use it effectively.
 
There you go, Javelin co-production is going ahead.


@randomradio

Yes, this was always going to happen. It's not for the MP requirement, but will come with Stryker.

The Stryker integrates its own sensors with American-made weapons like Javelin via remote targeting, both land and airborne systems. Hence the need for an American weapon. They do not allow such modifications for non-American weapons. And if we are going for 300-500 Strykers, the Javelin requirement will be quite a bit.

This was my reply to your post: Post 13.
Apart from emergency purchases, infantry will standardize on one type. Vehicles could be a mix depending on our partners, but the mass will still remain one type. For example, FRCV and FICV will have one type, not counting the tube-launched version. But then there's Namica with Nag, Stryker with Javelin and BMP-2 with Konkurs-M.
 
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This garbage failed trials in thar desert. We are deliberately sabotaging our indigenous systems.

America is not a reliable partner, this blunder is going to cost us huge in near future.

Sab bech khaya modi ne.

No relation to indigenous programs. Out of an overall requirement of 65000 ATGMs for the IA, at least 50-55k will be Indian in some capacity.
 
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Possibly an appeasement buy. We don't want tariffs after all.

The Stryker has capabilities we do not have. In fact, they have a 30-year roadmap, we do not even have the starting version of what the Stryker can do, it has to be developed first. Plus it appears majority of these 500+ will be deployed along LAC.

WhAP is just a box on wheels today. And Kalyani's version is yet to hit the road. They will fulfill other requirements.

Our manufacturing is starting to pick pace. A shock like that would hurt us far more than putting a domestic system on the backburner would.

We have about 7 different requirements for ATGMs, this is just one of them. FRCV/FICV have their own systems, two designs. Arjun and T-90 will have a tube-launched one. T-90 will have an additional Russian one. BMP-2 has Russian. Stryker will have Javelin. Infantry will have a mix of older ones, emergency import ones, and domestic ones. Helicopters will have at least 2.
 
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Accha is that dual pulse bit is correct ? MOATGM employs dual pulse rocket motors ? I thought it was dual thrust EDB propellant that DRDO mention, but not about dual pulse motor.
 
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