We have to start the AMCA project considering some products which we don't manufacture like the engine -GE 414, Radar -ELTA 2052 , Ejection seat - Martin-Baker. which are also best in class . If we are able to replace them in the future with the indigenous product then we will else the project will continue as per the plan . Same as Gripen,F-CK-1A...
Yes, similar dimensions with ~10% additional thrust. GE414 and EJ200 are almost 3 decade old tech. Latest of the two, EJ2x0 phase 2 already projected 120kn. So it's achievable.
Right now, we'd be weeping tears of gratitude if the GTRE manages to develop a conventional turbofan engine to power the MWF during it's MLU which if the first MWF arrives by 2030 , should occur in 2040 . That's a full two decades from now & I'm referring to a conventional turbofan not variable bypass or a stealth one.
This article mentions the first flight in 2024-25 which is impossible. I don't expect the first flight of AMCA any sooner than 2030 but MWF's first flight around 2025 is a possibility
Wake me up when we will sign a deal for LCA Mk1a ... AMCA by HAL will take another 20 years. These guys yet to identify the manufacturing partner .so nothing progressedAdd HAL ALH, all our DND designed ships
Still it's the Koreans that are making money out of it. There is no harm in co-developing technologies with allied countries. The JV model is the best model in my opinion you can share tech and get state of the art tech which you otherwise had to develop it yourself the chances of getting upto date tech would be difficult. Our best tech has been JV barak 8, brahmos. I wouldn't mind doing a JV with Koreans on AMCA. Or with the Swedes on a tejas mk 3 stealth
The problem is that Koreans had to go for the same LM to design their next fighter. LCA should have been pursued this route but it was a different sanction hit time. Barak and Brahmos shared an impossible level of tech that we could achieve at that time. Time has changed there wouldn't be a fighter JV. We are self-sufficient in this regard (Unlike Koreans even with their high tech base).
I personally don't want a JV with the Koreans because we are on the same tech level as them. They are also developing their own radar and have the same problems as us. A JV for AMCA should rather be with the Japanese because they have the engine ready we could work with them on the radar and other ew stuff. Japanese ew is not that sophisticated in my opinion. But they won't work with us. The Japanese are pretty paranoid regarding their tech. The AMCA model making deal with RR for the engine is better though. The parameters are so high for the amca that if we successfully make this aircraft and induct in 2030's it will be the best performing fifth gen comparable to the f22 in terms of maneuverability.
We can collaborate with japanese IN ENGINE arena, tgey have developed a finest jet engine, with a monstrous electrical out put of 180KW.
Aerodynamic performance the requirements are pretty high for speed and maneuverability for the amca . I genuinely think amca will be a monster of a dogfighter. If the parameters are met for that performance. Electronics and tech wise we are only truly behind the Japanese fifth gen programme. Because first they have an amazing engine, superior to even the Russian item 117 . They are not using fly by wire but fly by optic it's something revolutionary in that sense. That we will be skipping from wire to fibre optic making it much faster response than any other fifth gen aircraft. Electronics wise we might be really ahead of the Koreans in terms of requirements. The Korean one will be an above average plane but not as good as us the parameters are just too competitive. Amca will be an amazing Air defense and interceptor fighter. Amca's biggest weakness is it's load carrying capacity is the smallest out of all fifth gens. The Turkish fifth gen is a more f22 su57 class fighter. And therefore I doubt it's capabilty to fifth gen. Although aselsan has been impressive in terms of electronics I somehow doubt they won't be successful on that. Even though Koral ew is impressive. Just read Wikipedia and the specifications of amca and you can compare no one is close when it comes to technical parameters close to amca . It will be superior to even the f35 if we successfully make the fifth gen engine with RR.
Japanese engine, i will keep its ahead of f22's engine. Rest of the case american jets will triumph.
We are behind all the three countries when it comes to electronics. The Turks have really started focusing in defense production. And thanks to western investment and ties with NATO their technology is on par with them also the Israelis have assisted the Turks a lot. There is a reason why Israel doesn't recognise the Armenian genocide.
