ADA AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft

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So P Bhadoria being project manage & just tested WT model, plus metal cutting already started, do we think it will take 4 years for first flight? Normally it should be 24 months, maybe 30 months. Would love to know which systems we are importing & which are made by our labs/local msme.
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Just happened to see the 6th episode of IAH by S.Jha recorded in February. He's maintained the same stand he's taken in the latest episode of IAH.

That lack of funds is the main reason for slow progress in the AMCA & LCA Mk-2 programs with ADA having to make do with residual funds. He also stated the first flight of the AMCA was delayed by a year - it's postponed to 2026 from 2025. I wonder if he still maintains this stand today.

I think resident storyteller was half right as always. We've funds but we've no funds. I'm guessing IAF CAPEX budget is divided into 2 with ~ 50% + being set aside for big ticket projects & the balance for other acquisitions .

Beginning 2016 , the big ticket project was the Rafale. In 2019 , it was split between Rafale & S-400 with the financing of the latter continuing next year.

By 2024 , we'd be free to go in for something fresh. By the looks of it, it seems 10 Predator drones will be next between today & 2024 after which I sincerely hope we go for 36-54 Rafales. They can pursue their MRFA at leisure after that.
 
Just happened to see the 6th episode of IAH by S.Jha recorded in February. He's maintained the same stand he's taken in the latest episode of IAH.

That lack of funds is the main reason for slow progress in the AMCA & LCA Mk-2 programs with ADA having to make do with residual funds. He also stated the first flight of the AMCA was delayed by a year - it's postponed to 2026 from 2025. I wonder if he still maintains this stand today.

I think resident storyteller was half right as always. We've funds but we've no funds. I'm guessing IAF CAPEX budget is divided into 2 with ~ 50% + being set aside for big ticket projects & the balance for other acquisitions .

Beginning 2016 , the big ticket project was the Rafale. In 2019 , it was split between Rafale & S-400 with the financing of the latter continuing next year.

By 2024 , we'd be free to go in for something fresh. By the looks of it, it seems 10 Predator drones will be next between today & 2024 after which I sincerely hope we go for 36-54 Rafales. They can pursue their MRFA at leisure after that.
I also think apart from the funding, internal available resources is also an issue. Do we have the capability to work on Tejas MK2 and AMCA and TEDBF simultaneously?
 
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I also think apart from the funding, internal available resources is also an issue. Do we have the capability to work on Tejas MK2 and AMCA and TEDBF simultaneously?
TEDBF first flight in 2029. There must have been some overlap between the Mk-2 & AMCA Mk-1 T/L just as there'd be some in the TEDBF & AMCA Mk-2 T/L. However, the first & only prototype of LCA Mk-2 built till date is expected to commence taxi trials in the first quarter of 2023 , a delay of about a year.

We've no news whatsoever on what's the status of the AMCA Mk-1. S Jha didn't ever bring up the lack of manpower in ADA at all in all the programs I've seen till date but then again nobody's asked him as well though he does volunteer such information from time to time.
 
Just happened to see the 6th episode of IAH by S.Jha recorded in February. He's maintained the same stand he's taken in the latest episode of IAH.

That lack of funds is the main reason for slow progress in the AMCA & LCA Mk-2 programs with ADA having to make do with residual funds. He also stated the first flight of the AMCA was delayed by a year - it's postponed to 2026 from 2025. I wonder if he still maintains this stand today.

I think resident storyteller was half right as always. We've funds but we've no funds. I'm guessing IAF CAPEX budget is divided into 2 with ~ 50% + being set aside for big ticket projects & the balance for other acquisitions .

Beginning 2016 , the big ticket project was the Rafale. In 2019 , it was split between Rafale & S-400 with the financing of the latter continuing next year.

By 2024 , we'd be free to go in for something fresh. By the looks of it, it seems 10 Predator drones will be next between today & 2024 after which I sincerely hope we go for 36-54 Rafales. They can pursue their MRFA at leisure after that.

I think it's a coordinated campaign to malign Modiji.
 
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They do have some good expertise from their programs that can be useful. But I am not sure if ADA/HAL would like to keep AMCA program safe from outside influence. I think AMCA program should carry on its own given we have developed stealth program on our own. Future program like FUFA can be done with outside help.

And this called a paradigm shift in policy.
 
And this called a paradigm shift in policy.

The enforced high cost factors is the reason. Uk Japan co-opting due to such high cost in dev stage alone. I fully expect next gen jet program will be done in collab with likes of japan or some other interested country, Uk trying to rope us in for tempest & also for geopolitics reason.
 
AMCA-India's stealth fighter jet completes design phase; awaits cabinet approval for the prototype: DRDO Chairman S. Kamat

Sameer V Kamat was recently appointed as the Secretary DDR&D and Chairman of DRDO. He has been driving some of the most critical projects in field of Naval Systems and Materials Division of DRDO. In his first and exclusive interaction with Manish Kumar Jha of Financial Express online, Kamat outlines many breakthroughs in developing unmanned system, IAF’s Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) and Light Tank.

While DRDO has lately come up with many advanced level breakthroughs, critics point out delay in realizing unmanned aerial system. What are the factors?

DRDO has already developed medium altitude long endurance “MALE UAV TAPAS”. As on date, more than 150 flight trials of TAPAS UAV have been completed. During these flights, altitude and endurance has touched the desired requirements.

Non availability of some critical technologies like engine, and development of Twin Element Air foil Wing and Automatic Take Off and landing etc., were some of the constraints in realizing the UAV systems.

The long development cycle time for the initial projects can be attributed to the steep learning curve of R&D centers and indigenous industry. It is expected to reduce substantially for the subsequent platforms like high altitude long endurance (HALE) UAV, since most of the legacy knowledge, technologies and systems will be effectively leveraged by all R&D partners in academia, industry and DRDO laboratories.

ADA has completed the fabrication of AMCA at HAL with special material for 5th gen design. What is the next stage of development as Project is still waiting for final approval from the cabinet committee? What is the estimated cost that you look at and how will it unfold under the SPV mechanism which you earlier talked about?

Fabrication of AMCA has not been done yet. However, the preliminary design has been finalized. Design phase of AMCA is proceeding well by ADA team. However, the actual activity of prototype realization would begin after final approval of the Government.

AMCA programme will be undertaken through SPV involving Indian industries in a big way. The SPV would be involved in the prototype development, series production and providing life time/cycle support to the Indian Air Force.

AMCA development would be a major compliance to budget announcement of 2022-23 with respect to 25 per cent R&D budget allocation to industry and encouraging private industries to collaborate with DRDO through SPV model.

Could you talk about the Light Tank under 25 tonnes which is to be deployed in High altitude Areas (HAA)? DRDO took it under to develop in the shortest possible time. What is the prototype stage development.

DRDO has developed strong technology base for battle tanks having developed MBT Arjun. Indian Army has felt the need of light tanks, under 25 tonnes, for mountainous regions. DRDO is developing light tank through industry partner. The configuration has been worked out.

Work on the prototype of Light Weight Tank is in full swing and it is expected to be ready for production by next year. These tanks will be fitted with High Altitude Operable Power pack of 1000hp and capable of firing multiple ammunitions.

You also have been spearheading some of the structural changes, aiming to create many centers of excellence within DRDO. How are you doing this? Lately, it was reported that DRDO is facing fund crunch. What is your take on this?


In line with the vision of Prime Minister, DRDO has created 5 Young Scientists Laboratories in four cities viz, Bengaluru, Pune, Chennai, and Hyderabad.

Each of these laboratories will work on a particular key advanced technology of importance to the development of futuristic defence systems viz, Artificial intelligence, Quantum technologies, Cognitive technologies, Asymmetric technologies and Smart materials.

The establishment of these five labs lays down the foundation for research and development of futuristic technologies. It will be a big leap forward for DRDO to be future ready in defence technologies.

Apart from these, DRDO has also collaborated with various academic institutes all over the country and established 10 DRDO Industry Academia Centres of Excellence (DIA-CoE). These CoEs have been established at different Universities/institutions throughout the country to develop critical technologies for enabling futuristic requirements of Armed Forces.

DRDO is providing financial support through the DIA-CoE in IITs/Universities to undertake science and technology projects and to create special test facilities in these Centres. We are processing more DIA-COEs at various technical institutions of high ranking.

Raksha Mantri (Defence Minister) has recently approved setting up of six new DRDO Industry Academia Centres of Excellence at IIT (Kanpur), Kharagpur, Roorkee, BHU, Jodhpur, and Hyderabad. Each DIA-COE has identified technology verticals and is empowered to act as research node for all academic institutions in the country.
Great interview guys. Read it in the link.

 
AMCA-India's stealth fighter jet completes design phase; awaits cabinet approval for the prototype: DRDO Chairman S. Kamat


Great interview guys. Read it in the link.



Read carefully. He says preliminary design complete. (Detailed) Design phase in progress.
 
Read carefully. He says preliminary design complete. (Detailed) Design phase in progress.
Yeah I read that & vice-versa Manish Jha question, does it not feel like Kamat sir slightly downplaying it to divert attention away & protecting the program from public attention? Manishji did get some tour of amca design & ADA/HAL, must have seen some first hand progress.
 
Yeah I read that & vice-versa Manish Jha question, does it not feel like Kamat sir slightly downplaying it to divert attention away & protecting the program from public attention? Manishji did get some tour of amca design & ADA/HAL, must have seen some first hand progress.
Let's see when the funds are released. That is an important milestone.