Seems the Rolls Royce facilities visit included a presentation about the obvious amca engine
An hedge to get French to negotiations to save whatever amount that's feasible.Seems the Rolls Royce facilities visit included a presentation about the obvious amca engine
I think we should ink development projects with both.
We already wasted more than a decade negotiating with snecma.
This hedging business only cause more delays.
yeah, both will be charging massive premium anyway. I am also concerned about the joint ip too, surely they won't agree to some condition where one party can block unilaterally?
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The UK is currently eager to do deals since it no longer has the luxury of the pound. UK financial statistics were shattered by the Russia-Ukraine war. The best deal is what matters most.
See the Rolls Royce has bailed on Jaguar project once. That was just licence manufacturing of a higher thrust version engine we already use.
And here we are talking about development of testing and certification infrastructure in India for the Engine and India holding all the IPR.
RR cannot agree to it as far as I see it.
France on the other hand, Snecma is in partnership with GE for jet engine business. And their only individual project out there is M88. And we have in past had succesful ToT for Rockets.
French are actually ready for most of the things we want , they are just asking a bit too much money for it.
And the negotiations are not more than 18 months. We haven't been negotiating with them for 10 years.
UK is in a economic tight spot, RR isn't. They are in a duopoly in international jet engine market. Financial constraints won't be a reason for RR to agree to our terms.
These are just war effect, the market is still dependent on them and post war in next 5 years time very likely higher military demand will change the situation.
Things in corporate life don't work like that. To retain your employees, you need to pay them all the incentives now, or else you will have to start laying off employees. In short, the Indians will try to get the best deal, and I don't think India will only go with Safran. It's a real world where India will put its own hard-earned money, so no favor.
I mean more about their customer base having very little other choices. RR are trusted company & in jet engine not that many rivals. So moving to another maker of choice won't be feasible en masse under economic downturn, its already hard to switch entirely to a different set of suppliers. So a customer base will always be there. I do not see them letting go their core talent pool under any circumstnces.
90 and 110 kn With the French. 140 and 180 kN engine with British should be the way to go. The British are far more desperate than the french too
*censored*ers are taking 3yrs to build one prototype when ideally it should not take more than 2 yrs same thing happening with tejas mk2 also. At this rate only God can save us.