Spot on
. The West(especially US/UK) never wanted India to become a nuclear power. As per some sources CIA killed Dr. Bhabha because of this specific reason along with Lal Bahadur Shastri.Agni & Prithvi Ballistic Missiles : News & Discussions
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. The West(especially US/UK) never wanted India to become a nuclear power. As per some sources CIA killed Dr. Bhabha because of this specific reason along with Lal Bahadur Shastri.
Not really mate. Just telling it how it is. People have often bragged about Indian missile and space technology, but you had help in the early days with Russian rocket technology and then benefitted from western ICs. Others didn't have those advantages.
Our missile program started in the 1970s. you're saying it was so bad that within 20 years aftre British left with no technology or money we we'ren't able to build ICBMs?
I told you neo imperialist arguments to split the world between haves and have nots is stunning. Thank god India was moral compass to the world.
No one's trying to do that. Just appropriately apportioning credit, as and where it's due. Like I said several posts back, the MTCR does not prevent domestically produced missiles.
MTCR was designed to prevent countries from developing missile systems knowing fully well that they were too new to have full ecosystems to develop missiles
yes, thats what it states. But the purpose was to restrict the technology & progress to just the boys in the club. Which literally meant any technology which was remotely associated with were not just denied for export from their country but also sanctions were imposed on other cntries which were exporting non-military goods for civilian purpose.
exactly , these regimes were used not just to block military capability but also every single damn thing that could deny progress in civilian sector of other cntries. On top of it some of these cntries then went on to sell these advanced technology items used for a very high price. They were imposing sanctions and also profiteering at the same time.
we do but it is totally outdated but good enuf to be used in military applications ,
Semi-Conductor Laboratory - Wikipedia
we have had research institutions that have long history, all these nonsense comes from west as they cannot digest others progress.
Tata Institute of Fundamental Research - Wikipedia
even if we buy a nut or bolt from abroad to build missile it could be used to sanction.
MTCR was hypocritical and split the world between haves and have nots (with us being have nots). Morally we could not support it to promote eqality in the world.
Now that we have signed it as a 'haves' we don't have sanctions threat anymore.
So don't.
Although I really don't understand the issue, you had missiles capable of well over 300km before the MTCR even became a thing.
You don't understand because you don't practice high thinking and simple living.
I don't know why @BMD is so P**d & crying like a baby here. UK is still ahead of India & any other Asian country when comes to high end technology.........being a 51st state of US has its perks.
Just making the case that putting a satellite in orbit now with lots of COTS technology from other countries isn't the same as doing it in 1971 with all in-house tech.
It's not like India doesn't use US technology inside its space programme.
Well its spelled out conservatively, game ober. I retire 
tbh original A3B concept itself was supposed to do 11500km , A5 early concept direct first derivative of A3 would do 8k km with full load 1.5 ton, very light 700kg payload to 18000 km. Increased 2.5 ton payload is what A5 ICBM baseline range is. They have 3 ton + payload with 3-10 mirv ready for years now. Neutronx said upcoming test is likely for A5, not A1P.
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Ogni-VI is expected to have a range between 9,000 kms and 12,000 kms with a 3-tonne nuclear payload, and a range between 14,000 kms and 16,000 kms with a lighter 1.5 tonne package.
tbh original A3B concept itself was supposed to do 11500km , A5 early concept direct first derivative of A3 would do 8k km with full load 1.5 ton, very light 700kg payload to 18000 km. Increased 2.5 ton payload is what A5 ICBM baseline range is. They have 3 ton + payload with 3-10 mirv ready for years now. Neutronx said upcoming test is likely for A5, not A1P.
How nuclear capable Agni-VI missile will be a force-multiplier for India
Agni-VI is expected to have a range between 9,000 kms and 12,000 kms with a 3-tonne nuclear payload, and a range between 14,000 kms and 16,000 kms with a lighter 1.5 tonne package.
