Arjun Main Battle Tank (Mk-1 & Mk-2)

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Active protection system doesn't work against modern slow moving maneuvering drones... Nothing actually working against them lately as we have been seeing in Ukraine , jammers have been countered by fiber optic drones + saturation ambush attacks by fiber optic drones is a massive threat that armoured column will be facing in future if they haven't already.... No warning nothing & even if hard kill measures managed to do the job..... The share number that can be thrown will overwhelm any active protection system....hard to admit though but look like we are back to old style trench warfare.
 
Active protection system doesn't work against modern slow moving maneuvering drones... Nothing actually working against them lately as we have been seeing in Ukraine , jammers have been countered by fiber optic drones + saturation ambush attacks by fiber optic drones is a massive threat that armoured column will be facing in future if they haven't already.... No warning nothing & even if hard kill measures managed to do the job..... The share number that can be thrown will overwhelm any active protection system....hard to admit though but look like we are back to old style trench warfare.

There are plenty of new C-UAS capabilities available that are meant to defeat saturation attacks from drones. As long as you can stick radars on a tank, you can equip and cue different types of weapons on the drones, both cannons and DEW.

Armored formations will also have off-board protection via autonomous C-UAS vehicles, anti-drone infantry, and swarm drones designed to crash into attack drones.
 
Active protection system doesn't work against modern slow moving maneuvering drones... Nothing actually working against them lately as we have been seeing in Ukraine , jammers have been countered by fiber optic drones + saturation ambush attacks by fiber optic drones is a massive threat that armoured column will be facing in future if they haven't already.... No warning nothing & even if hard kill measures managed to do the job..... The share number that can be thrown will overwhelm any active protection system....hard to admit though but look like we are back to old style trench warfare.

 
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Are you telling me this will be put over a tank now ? & this thing fries not just drones.... any friendly electronic between drone & this will get fry to

Larger versions can accompany tanks, acting at longer ranges for area defense from many kilometers away. And smaller versions can be equipped on tanks for self-protection from many meters away.

Yeah, friendly electronics are a worthy loss if such a large swarm comes to attack.
 
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Larger versions can accompany tanks, acting at longer ranges for area defense from many kilometers away. And smaller versions can be equipped on tanks for self-protection from many meters away.

Yeah, friendly electronics are a worthy loss if such a large swarm comes to attack.
really doubt it can work on large scale, you would need lots of power. Drone also should move steadily in the path of microwave direction. Any change in path then radar has to change its direction. If the drones contain shielding only for control unit then it will take more effort to destroy it. We can certainly kill some unfortunate birds crossing the path. On the contrary lasers deliver more power than microwaves.
 
Small suicide drones have made MBTs almost useless in war. Unless there is a breakthrough in counter-drone tech, the scales are heavily titled against MBTs. Anyone saying otherwise is just selling fairytales about yet-to-be-proven tech.

Large scale armoured thrusts in open fields is just suicide now.
 
Also, this is a justifiable reason to go slow on the new MBT program. Too much time & resources should not be spent on that program.

Instead, a lot of money should be spent on securing independent supply chain for drones. I don't think our babus take supply chain infiltration as a really serious threat. They should. But jab tak ek bar gaand pe laat nahin padti, hamari sarkar ko akal aati kahan hai!!! We have a history of getting surprised.
 
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Not bad, we are approaching Western non-DU standards.

Btw, when Arjun was offered for mass production, and T-90 license production was initiated, the best shell available for Arjun was the first one. While the Mk2 says 2010-15, it took longer than that, closer to 2020. The best T-90 Russian ammo the Indian version could fire was the Mango, with up to 470 mm penetration, and an Israeli Mk2 with 520 mm; 0 deg at 2000 m. There's a new shell called Mango 2 which does 550-600 mm with a new penetrator. The new T-90 Mk3 can fire the older Lekalos, which can do 550-600 mm, and the newer Svinets-2, which can do 700+ mm.

So the T-90 has consistently been maintaining firepower superiority over the Arjun. Things should improve for the Arjun after 2030 when more advanced rounds are created for it while the T-90's tech development stagnates in Russia due to autoloader limitations and the two-piece ammo design.

While European tanks are at the same level, the latest American DU rounds can penetrate a meter or more. Russia's Vacuum rounds for Armata, both tungsten and DU, can manage the same. That's why Armata has 1.2 m of armor, meant to manage tank shell developments for the next 20-30 years.