Its a machine with lots of mechanical fail safes built in. What went wrong is difficult to say. The pilots would have only known about something out of the odd.
And mind it over the years we have added several plug and play systems to this thing.
From the video , possibly minor technical issue, there were also 6 Jawans in. All are safe.
More good news, its already raised i guess, just formal affair.
The Indian Air Force (IAF) is set to formally raise its first unit of indigenous Light Combat Helicopters (LCHs) in Jodhpur in the first week of October coinciding with Air Force Day on October 8.
Ten LCHs will be inducted in the first batch completing one unit, a defence official said on Monday. The IAF is still working out the total number of LCHs to be acquired, the official stated.
The IAF operates the older Russian Mi-25 and Mi-35 attack helicopters, of which one squadron has been phased out following the induction of 22 Boeing AH-64E Apache attack helicopters. The existing Mi-35 squadron is in the process of being sent for overhaul which will extend its life by many years, the official stated.
www.thehindu.com
Retire those Mi-35. Keep the Hi-Lo mix of Apache - LCH.
Ten LCHs will be inducted in the first batch completing one unit, a defence official said on Monday. The IAF is still working out the total number of LCHs to be acquired, the official stated.
The IAF operates the older Russian Mi-25 and Mi-35 attack helicopters, of which one squadron has been phased out following the induction of 22 Boeing AH-64E Apache attack helicopters. The existing Mi-35 squadron is in the process of being sent for overhaul which will extend its life by many years, the official stated.
IAF to raise first LCH squadron at Jodhpur in October
Mi-35 attack helicopter squadron in service being sent for overhaul
Retire those Mi-35. Keep the Hi-Lo mix of Apache - LCH.
According to the HAL poster LCH can carry 16 atgm in anti armor configuration
also 250kg HSLD in bombing mission
can they mount loitering ammo in wing stub as well, that would make my day
think of 2 switchblade type ejector drones mounted in wingstub in permanent fashion wher you can just plug in a new one
also 250kg HSLD in bombing mission
can they mount loitering ammo in wing stub as well, that would make my day
think of 2 switchblade type ejector drones mounted in wingstub in permanent fashion wher you can just plug in a new one
Which ATGM? When HAL is talking rubbish, people are ready to beleive that sh*t, why dont these people beleive our military, the one who gonna use it defend our border says some flaws existing on any military product?According to the HAL poster LCH can carry 16 atgm in anti armor configuration
also 250kg HSLD in bombing mission
can they mount loitering ammo in wing stub as well, that would make my day
You all know that not even a single a2s missile had fired from LCH. Without finalising the missile how can they tell with confidence that LCH can carry 16 missiles?
800 something Kg payload on 4 pylonsAccording to the HAL poster LCH can carry 16 atgm in anti armor configuration
also 250kg HSLD in bombing mission
can they mount loitering ammo in wing stub as well, that would make my day
We don't know the ratings of each pylon.
Now Helina/Dhruvastra will weight around 50kg itself, and the twin launcher. Now that's a weight which is unknown.
But anyways there's no way 16 ATGMs of HELINA category can be carried. Its mentioned payload cannot carry it.
Anyways number of ATGMs is not important. What is important that the Helina is fully certified to be used from LCH and LCH gets its RWR, LWR, MAWS and DIRCM integrated.
Without which it has zero pratical usage.
Yeah I have some doubts too but since its from HAL own marketing so maybe its part of plan. This weapon list is generalised unlike the tejas one so I think it falls under future weapons category.
The weapon list is more generalised and a future weapons set, than set in stone weapon package on offer. We know well barely anything has been fired from lch bar the rockets & the gun. Currently LSP units are under induction so its likely actual weapon firing tests will be done by 23-24. Did we consider HSLD would be among a light copter ammo package? I certainly never seen any hint before. This list is for future plans. Will take time to certify each of those.
Just because there is a war going on elsewhere does not mean all our new inducted assets will be put under service. There got to be a reason why both us & china decided to keep peace for the time being & disengage.
No, we are not inducting anything based on Ukrain, but certainly the things we are inducting now should be able to deal the situations in LAC. And, i guess our military not ordered any LCH with their fund, correct me if i am wrong, so LCH is ready, & military didn't made any order from them.
LCH are in lsp version & number just 10 or so. Both IAF & army have way more options before even sending lch into action. Apaches & rudras will be first in line. Ordering something, then getting it, then getting used to it for a trial period, then it is made operational. LCH like the tejas variant will need to go through similar trial process before it is fully operational. LSPs by no means are final products.
Frankly speaking looking at the area of conflict in our case, I would use rudra as it can carry some units inside beside weapons. In such a mountain area sole attack heli might be of secondary use unless enemy fully commits.
So you are agreeing that LCH as on today is not battle ready, and more over its not the best solution for LAC/LOC even if it fully functional.
Dont come here and yell nonsense about armed forces if they didn't induct it in large number.
Its part battle ready with the gun & rockets in place. This is why it was deployed during standoff in high altitude area. Whichever command deployed it had enough trust on it even for LSP model. Right now it can fully work in a limited attack role very well. Attack gunships do not go into anti armor formation often even during full scale war, most sorties are done with 70mm rockets. It will be inducted in large numbers in coming years.
The atgm issue I heard last is of vibration, they are working on it.
The problems you are citing are mostly due to misunderstanding.
First, its a product poster for Africa Def expo aka totally export variant. Why associate this with IA/IAF requirements? They will have their own set of enhancements. Export variant might not need high altitude as firm criteria.
Second, I mentioned already its very clear the armaments are generic, no final missile names are mentioned unlike the Tejas mk1a armament. So all these are future integrated weapons list. This is because foreign countries can & will ask for stuff as they see suitable budget & utility wise. HAL's job is to meet those requirement for an export order.
Third, even at face value if we compare spec with public available data to the poster data, HAL has cited enhanced range, payload, endurance & speed possibly due to less high altitude penalty. Its upto HAL to deliver on it, not mine.
Strela 2, 1st gen stingers, HN5Its part battle ready with the gun & rockets in place. This is why it was deployed during standoff in high altitude area. Whichever command deployed it had enough trust on it even for LSP model. Right now it can fully work in a limited attack role very well. Attack gunships do not go into anti armor formation often even during full scale war, most sorties are done with 70mm rockets. It will be inducted in large numbers in coming years.
The atgm issue I heard last is of vibration, they are working on it.
The problems you are citing are mostly due to misunderstanding.
First, its a product poster for Africa Def expo aka totally export variant. Why associate this with IA/IAF requirements? They will have their own set of enhancements. Export variant might not need high altitude as firm criteria.
Second, I mentioned already its very clear the armaments are generic, no final missile names are mentioned unlike the Tejas mk1a armament. So all these are future integrated weapons list. This is because foreign countries can & will ask for stuff as they see suitable budget & utility wise. HAL's job is to meet those requirement for an export order.
Third, even at face value if we compare spec with public available data to the poster data, HAL has cited enhanced range, payload, endurance & speed possibly due to less high altitude penalty. Its upto HAL to deliver on it, not mine.
These MANPADs are 3 decade old technologies and easily available to terrorists around the world.
Without a self protection suite, a couple of rag tag terrorist will bring down the LCH.
And you mean to say that LCH is deployed against infantry of China equipped with FN6 systems?
Whoever says that LCH was deployed in active service (meaning in case a conflict happened, it was kept armed and ready to be used) , is foolish.