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Australia strikes ‘landmark’ nuclear defense agreement with AUKUS allies

Agreement aimed at giving Australia the technology and hardware to build, run and maintain nuclear-powered submarines
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Australia struck the deal Monday, aimed at allowing transfer of nuclear equipment and technology for the country’s proposed fleet. It is the latest advance in the 2021 AUKUS security pact linking the three countries.

The agreement, described by U.S officials as another significant "AUKUS milestone,” is a further step to giving Australia the technology and hardware to build, run and maintain nuclear-powered submarines.
 
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Weapons export rules removed for trade between Australia and AUKUS partners

The US will remove critical export and arms regulations in order to encourage trade of weapons and military technology between the three AUKUS partners.
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US to approve streamlined ITAR for Australia, in order to speed AUKUS arms exports - Breaking Defense

This US ITAR reform would reduce by "close to, or slightly over 900 export permits required under our export controls from Australia to the US and the UK, with a value of around $5 billion AUD a year," an Australian defense official said.
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Q : How do you stop frogs from croaking?

A : Give them good news about AUKUS

All three nations are wrapping up the laws, to enable AUKUS
 
Optimist said:
Q : How do you stop frogs from croaking?

A : Give them good news about AUKUS

All three nations are wrapping up the laws, to enable AUKUS
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My point of view about AUKUS :

Not a single AUKUS sub will be made,
Australia will received used Virginia subs, and some brand new. Mayby not 8, but a grand total of 5 or 6.
All because of the huge cost
I add : do you really see GB ad USA studying together a new SSN class "just" for 5 Australian subs when they are struggling to built their own fleet ???

It's funny to remember the Australian crying about the cost of 12 Barracuda all Australian made (80 to 100 billion), first delivered in the early 2030 and now a half or 2 third fleet for nearly 400 billion in late 2030 and probably 2040.

Congrats ! good deal (y)(y)(y)


We now have to thank Australia to have paid the Barracuda SSK study. It helps to win the Netherlands deal, and maybe, maybe the Canadian one.
Thanks a lot !!!
 
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abcnews.au 25.07
Submarine boss predicts AUKUS project will be slow, expensive and suffer setbacks - ABC News

In short:
Australia's Submarine Agency boss told an international defence conference the path to AUKUS will be drawn-out and challenging.
Vice Admiral Jonathan Mead called for patience in seeing the deal through despite all its forthcoming setbacks.


What's next?
Discussions are ongoing about how payment contributions will work between the three players, especially if commitments fall flat.


The admiral in charge of running Australia's massive nuclear-powered submarine project has warned the AUKUS endeavour will suffer setbacks and he appealed for "strategic patience", as the expensive, decades-long project gets underway.

Addressing the Indian Ocean Defence and Security conference in Perth, Australian Submarine Agency (ASA) boss Vice Admiral Jonathan Mead claimed AUKUS was already "shifting the military balance of power" in the region but said much more work needed to be done.

"We have a long road ahead, we do need strategic patience; developing these high-end apex capabilities necessary for effective deterrence is not easy, is not quick, nor is it cheap," he told the conference on Thursday.

"There will be setbacks, but we need to have the confidence to see this through a generational commitment.

"The progress made already and the commitment of all involved demonstrate that we as a nation have what it takes to deliver on this ambitious program."

Earlier, the United Kingdom's visiting naval chief said it was "not unreasonable" that Australian taxpayers were already giving the British government almost $5 billion to improve his country's submarine industrial base.

In March, the Albanese government confirmed it would contribute $4.6 billion to UK industry for design work on the new SSN-AUKUS fleet and to expand a Rolls-Royce plant that builds the nuclear reactors that will eventually be installed into the submarines.

Under the tri-nation agreement, the federal government is providing a similar contribution to the United States to help improve the US's submarine industrial base before it begins to deliver second-hand Virginia-class boats to Australia.


"The reactor itself is not going to be built here in Australia, so it's not unreasonable to expect and ask Australia to make some of the up-front investment that allows the United Kingdom to then build the reactor house," British Admiral Ben Key said.

"But this returns back and then think of the opportunity the other way, that for us in the United Kingdom, you've then got a nuclear submarine operating capability here in Australia that is of benefit to us in the long run as well.

"I know Australians are warm, welcoming, decent but not always entirely generous people – I'm sure that there will be a point in the future when we will be asked to put our hand into our pocket but that will be for our benefit as well."

The British Sea Lord said he was comfortable at the level of funding being provided because "a lot of work was going on" across the three AUKUS capitals to look at the balance of the AUKUS payments. /end

Is the Australian taxpayer happy to pay billions of dollars to maintain the military-industrial lobbies, sorry: the UK and US defence industrial bases?
 
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Picdelamirand-oil said:
Not only are they being fu*ked, but they're also paying for the Vaseline.
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They are specialists:
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Oh dear we need some more
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Picdelamirand-oil said:
Not only are they being fu*ked, but they're also paying for the Vaseline.
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I think you're extremely ignorant of the Aussie psyche , their way of life & it shows. The Aussie doesn't mind being phucked only if it's the mother country UK doing the phucking or the US whom they look upto with stars in their eyes. In this case it's both the UK & the US which leaves the ordinary Aussie thrilled.

That privilege as it were will never be extended to anyone else least of all Le Francais.

Mark my words . Even if this project ends up being completed by 2074 which is a full 50 years from today & costs 1 trillion USD & not Australian Dollars , the Aussie would still wear a smile even if he isn't able to walk thanks to the pounding received for the rest of his life.

That's just the way they are .
 
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Amarante said:
Addressing the Indian Ocean Defence and Security conference in Perth, Australian Submarine Agency (ASA) boss Vice Admiral Jonathan Mead claimed AUKUS was already "shifting the military balance of power" in the region but said much more work needed to be done.

"We have a long road ahead, we do need strategic patience; developing these high-end apex capabilities necessary for effective deterrence is not easy, is not quick, nor is it cheap,"
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Envious frogs are green.

Aussies are getting the world's current best sub, the Virginia. The SSN-AUKUS, will be also very high tech. Getting the best from US and UK, will only be better.
 
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Some news about AUKUS.
Funny.
theconversation.com

The AUKUS submarine deal has been exposed as a monumental folly – is it time to abandon ship?

The lack of debate, not to say outrage, about the sheer cost of the AUKUS project is perhaps the most remarkable feature of the sorry submarine saga.
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AUKUS : The Submarine Fiasco that Sank Australia’s Sovereignty

Nuked, Andrew Fowler

Like all military acquisition programs worth billions of dollars, Australia's decision to buy a new submarine fleet was expected to be a torturous process. But no one could have predicted the trail of wreckage it left behind, from the boulevards of Paris to the dockyards of Adelaide, as deep...
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It is not written by a french... :ROFLMAO:
 
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Meanwhile in the real world.


simpleflying.com

Scaling Up: Australia-UK-US Security Pact Looks To Expand Into Aerospace

AUKUS could soon expand into the aerospace sector as the three countries work to increase high-tech military cooperation.
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  • AUKUS to expand beyond subs, focusing on aerospace collaboration.
  • Striving to enhance defense industrial base with hypersonic missile, quantum tech development, and more.
  • AUKUS Forum CEO visited Bell in Texas to build collaboration with US industries.
Australia, the United States, and the United Kingdom are regarded as three of the most natural and historic allies. As the world enters a new era of Great Power Competition, the three recently created the AUKUS security alliance centered around procuring nuclear-powered submarines for Australia.

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I can't see it on the list. :ROFLMAO: UK and US subs are on the list, but no French ones.

nationalinterest.org

Ranked: 5 Best Attack Submarines on Planet Earth in 2024

Among the world's elite attack submarines are the Russian Project 945A Kondor Class (Sierra II) and Project 885 Yasen (Severodvinsk), the British Astute-class, and the American Virginia and Seawolf-classes.
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m5dergi.com

Top 5 best submarines in the world

One of the deadliest weapons in a country’s arsenal is submarines. In the past, they played a significant role during World War II and during the Cold War. Realistically, this type of weapon has never stopped improving and developing, which is proof that submarines are an indispensable part of...
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I can't see it on the list. :ROFLMAO: UK and US subs are on the list, but no French ones.

nationalinterest.org

Ranked: 5 Best Attack Submarines on Planet Earth in 2024

Among the world's elite attack submarines are the Russian Project 945A Kondor Class (Sierra II) and Project 885 Yasen (Severodvinsk), the British Astute-class, and the American Virginia and Seawolf-classes.
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m5dergi.com

Top 5 best submarines in the world

One of the deadliest weapons in a country’s arsenal is submarines. In the past, they played a significant role during World War II and during the Cold War. Realistically, this type of weapon has never stopped improving and developing, which is proof that submarines are an indispensable part of...
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Do you rely on Turkish sites for submarines?
Since when are the Turks specialists in submarines?

Anyway, these rankings: n•1, n•2, n•3... are childish, not to say stupid.
That says a lot about you

As for the ranking of the American website (nationalinterest), it is only:
1/ to flatter the national ego
2/ and to exaggerate the Russian threat so that the USN « silent service » gets more credits.
 
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Amarante said:
As for the ranking of the American website (nationalinterest), it is only:
1/ to flatter the national ego
2/ and to exaggerate the Russian threat so that the USN « silent service » gets more credits.
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As to the nationalinterest ...Just to show you how illogical your arguments are.

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Suffren-Class: France Now Has One of Best Nuclear Submarines on Earth

The Suffren-class submarines were developed to replace the existing Rubis-class and Amethyste-class boats and provide France with an enhanced sub-surface attack capability.
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www.defenceconnect.com.au

Strategic submarines 'on plan and on schedule', says Chief of Navy

Australia is 'on plan and on schedule' to receive nuclear-powered Virginia class attack submarines from the United States of America, according to Chief of Navy Mark Hammond.
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Under the AUKUS trilaterial agreement with the US and United Kingdom, Australia intends to acquire three Virginia class submarines in the early 2030s and retain an option to purchase two additional submarines.

"..I am excited about the fact that the Australian submarine force of the future will be operating in the most survivable and most capable submarines.. That's what excites me the most."

"We're going to get our own Virginia-class attack submarine in the early 2030s, 2032 is the agreed timeframe, and that's what we're working towards, and... we are on plan, on schedule,"

"The reality is Chiefs of Navy in the region and Australia enjoy a very good relationship. Most of us communicate very, very regularly. We interact with a number of different international fora, and all of my counterparts in the region that I have a direct relationship with are very comfortable with the AUKUS program and for some reason a lot of them are submariners right now, Malaysia, Indonesia, Korea, Vietnam, to name a few.

"So I think the understanding of what we're doing and why we're doing it, and our authority to do as a sovereign nation is well understood, it's not an issue for me."
 
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