Brahmos Supersonic Cruise Missile : News, Updates and Discussions

vingensys said:
Or a dual-pulse motor?
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Sure. Its still a new engine, thus there is a lot of room for improvement. But let's keep in mind engine improvements are inherently more difficult and take more time to come up compared to improvements in fuel and aerodynamic design. But at this stage it just guess work anyway, we will see what comes out.
 
Gautam said:
Sure. Its still a new engine, thus there is a lot of room for improvement. But let's keep in mind engine improvements are inherently more difficult and take more time to come up compared to improvements in fuel and aerodynamic design. But at this stage it just guess work anyway, we will see what comes out.
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Definitely, but dual-pulse motors are not entirely a new thing for DRDO too, though developing one for an aam can be a challenge. Experience with Barak 8 should help here, if they are going down that path.
 
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We do make the Solid Rocket Booster for the Brahmos and all other support systems for the Ramjet engine like the intake, fueling lines, engine holding bearings etc. Previously the solid rocket booster was imported, now its not. That's what they meant by "Indian Propulsion Systems."

They are doing that already. They plan to take the current 110 km range to 160 km in a few years.

Not really. Solid rocket ejectable boosters are preferred in case of SAMs or AShMs or ASMs, not for AAMs.
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In case of SAMs like say the Barak-8 ER, the booster gets the missile airborne, carries to to a certain distance then the second stage engine starts and the booster is ejected. The reason for that is the booster is larger in dia than the rest of the missile, more surface are equals more drag. Thus its inefficient to carry that booster around, the more you carry it around the more you lose speed and effective range. So the booster is used only to attain a height and not to chase down a target.
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In AShMs or ASMs like say the Brahmos or the Nirbhay, the reasons for carrying and ejecting the bosster is the same as with the SAMs. Only difference is the primary operating engine. In Brahmos the ramjet is the primary engine, thus the booster is used to kick start the ramjet, with Nirbhay its the turbofan/turbojet than needs to be started.

In AAMs however the equations change drastically, we don't often have the time to fire the boosters then jettison the boosters and then start the main engine. Because this method of firing causes a gradual build up of speed not instant build up as is needed for AAMs. AAMs need to fly fast from the onset. Of course there are other problems, all the missiles mentioned above(SAMs/AShMs/ASMs) are fired from slow moving or stationary platforms, where as AAMs are fired from supersonic jets, fired at supersonic targets. Aerodynamic efficiency is of paramount importance, as such carrying large heavy ejectable boosters is an absolute no-no.

This is not to say that AAMs don't carry boosters. They do, the MBDA Meteor or the DRDO SFDR for example carry integral boosters that cannot be ejected. Those boosters provide additional range and also kick start the ramjet engine.

So how does the DRDO plan to enhance the range of the ASTRA ? Mostly by playing around with fuel composition and enhancing aerodynamic efficiency.
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Great
But DRDO should fast track this and complete this in a year so that Astra 1A reach upto at least 160 to 180 km.
 
IAF OPERATIONALISES AIR-LAUNCHED BRAHMOS CRUISE MISSILE IN MAJOR CAPABILITY MILESTONE

With longer reach and greater destructive potential than any anti-surface air weapon wielded by India, the 450-km range missile increases India's options for stand-off, cross-border targetting

October 17, 2019 By Vishal Thapar Photo(s): By SP Guide Pubns
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The BrahMos cruise missile strapped on to the reinforced belly of an IAF Su-30MKI fighter.

The Indian Air Force (IAF) has inducted and operationalised the air-launched, extended range BrahMos supersonic cruise missile.

With a kill range of 450 km, this is the IAF's most potent air-launched anti-surface weapon, and its induction is a significant capability milestone.

The missile has been mated with select Sukhoi-30MKI fighters. An estimated 42 Su-30MKIs will be modified to wield the airborne BrahMos. The modified Sukhois will have the capability to carry only one BrahMos at a time as part of a weapons configuration which also includes four RVV AE (R-77) air-to-air medium range missiles, two R-73 air-to-air short range missiles and six 250 kg bombs.


The modified Sukhois will have the capability to carry only one BrahMos at a time as part of a weapons configuration which also includes four RVV AE (R-77) air-to-air medium range missiles, two R-73 air-to-air short range missiles and six 250 kg bombs​


"A few BrahMos-armed aircraft will be provided to all IAF Su-30MKI squadrons to wield this capability," an informed observer disclosed. Some will also be kept in reserve.

Analysts term the IAF BrahMos capability "phenomenal". This has a longer range and more destructive potential than any other air-to-surface weapon wielded by the IAF so far.

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A shot of the weapons configuration of the BrahMos-armed Sukhoi fighter.

"The air-launched BrahMos has a strategic role. It is to destroy targets in depth which have strategic value and compromise the war waging capability of an adversary," remarked Air Marshal BK Pandey (Retired), a former Air Officer Commanding-in-Chief of the IAF's Training Command. The strategic targets in depth could be major military bases, ammunition dumps and vital installations. "With its range, the IAF can launch this weapon from its own airspace," Air Marshal Pandey said, pointing out the enhanced stand-off attack capability against a persistent adversary.


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"The air-launched BrahMos has a strategic role. It is to destroy targets in depth which have strategic value and compromise the war waging capability of an adversary," remarked Air Marshal BK Pandey (Retired), a former Air Officer Commanding-in-Chief of the IAF's Training Command​



The availability of this weapon increases India military options for launching surprise precision cross-border attacks from a stand-off range.

This will also beef up India's anti-ship capability in a maritime role, and enable quick reaction against an enemy warship up to 1,400 km from India's coastline.

Its 2.8 Mach supersonic speed and terrain-hugging flight mode also makes it improbable to intercept. "In recently-concluded user trials, this missile has shown itself to be very spectacular, very accurate," a senior IAF officer told SP's Aviation.

India's co-option as a full member of the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) has enabled the increase in the range of the BrahMos from 290 km to 450 km.

http://www.sps-aviation.com/news/?i...-cruise-missile-in-major-capability-milestone
 
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Gautam said:
The modified Sukhois will have the capability to carry only one BrahMos at a time as part of a weapons configuration which also includes four RVV AE (R-77) air-to-air medium range missiles, two R-73 air-to-air short range missiles and six 250 kg bombs
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But why do you need unguided bombs when you are in for long-range standoff strike mission?
 
Milspec said:
Your Channel?
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Not at all. Being a novice as compared to say you, I've two choices - either read extensively on defense matters to gain a grasp over the subject matter or see short clips like the one I've posted. No time to read extensively.Hence I avoid lengthy arguments with say @randomradio or even a @screambowl .But the latter is the in house conspiracy theorist & beyond redemption while the former is flip side of the same coin.An incurable optimist.It's all about 6 degrees of separation.

He seems more credible among the various channels on you tube out there. Hence, for those who are equally illiterate in such matters.


Of course @Ashwin differs. He also despises PKS but is the first to whet a new topic on his blogs. Show me a bong who gets along with a mallu.The argument didn't begin with Arundhathi Roy's mom divorcing her dad.But that's a story for another day.
 
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Not at all. Being a novice as compared to say you, I've two choices - either read extensively on defense matters to gain a grasp over the subject matter or see short clips like the one I've posted. No time to read extensively.Hence I avoid lengthy arguments with say @randomradio or even a @screambowl .But the latter is the in house conspiracy theorist & beyond redemption while the former is flip side of the same coin.An incurable optimist.It's all about 6 degrees of separation.

He seems more credible among the various channels on you tube out there. Hence, for those who are equally illiterate in such matters.


Of course @Ashwin differs. He also despises PKS but is the first to whet a new topic on his blogs. Show me a bong who gets along with a mallu.The argument didn't begin with Arundhathi Roy's mom divorcing her dad.But that's a story for another day.
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I am a bong who gets along with everyone.
 
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_Anonymous_ said:
Not at all. Being a novice as compared to say you, I've two choices - either read extensively on defense matters to gain a grasp over the subject matter or see short clips like the one I've posted. No time to read extensively.Hence I avoid lengthy arguments with say @randomradio or even a @screambowl .But the latter is the in house conspiracy theorist & beyond redemption while the former is flip side of the same coin.An incurable optimist.It's all about 6 degrees of separation.

He seems more credible among the various channels on you tube out there. Hence, for those who are equally illiterate in such matters.


Of course @Ashwin differs. He also despises PKS but is the first to whet a new topic on his blogs. Show me a bong who gets along with a mallu.The argument didn't begin with Arundhathi Roy's mom divorcing her dad.But that's a story for another day.
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Oh, come on Kashyap sir. Enough with the 4chan era hiding under a Guy Fawkes mask. FBI has given up. Time accept who you are.
 
Ashwin said:
Oh, come on Kashyap sir. Enough with the 4chan era hiding under a Guy Fawkes mask. FBI has given up. Time accept who you are.
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The day you discover my identity, I'd treat you to a kulfi. Damn, that rhymed! My challenge to you Eshwin. Not that I'm worth unmasking. But love, challenging argumentative ethnic groups. Read - Mallus & Bongs & Kashmiri Muslims.
 
Gautam said:
IAF OPERATIONALISES AIR-LAUNCHED BRAHMOS CRUISE MISSILE IN MAJOR CAPABILITY MILESTONE

With longer reach and greater destructive potential than any anti-surface air weapon wielded by India, the 450-km range missile increases India's options for stand-off, cross-border targetting

October 17, 2019 By Vishal Thapar Photo(s): By SP Guide Pubns
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The BrahMos cruise missile strapped on to the reinforced belly of an IAF Su-30MKI fighter.

The Indian Air Force (IAF) has inducted and operationalised the air-launched, extended range BrahMos supersonic cruise missile.

With a kill range of 450 km, this is the IAF's most potent air-launched anti-surface weapon, and its induction is a significant capability milestone.

The missile has been mated with select Sukhoi-30MKI fighters. An estimated 42 Su-30MKIs will be modified to wield the airborne BrahMos. The modified Sukhois will have the capability to carry only one BrahMos at a time as part of a weapons configuration which also includes four RVV AE (R-77) air-to-air medium range missiles, two R-73 air-to-air short range missiles and six 250 kg bombs.


The modified Sukhois will have the capability to carry only one BrahMos at a time as part of a weapons configuration which also includes four RVV AE (R-77) air-to-air medium range missiles, two R-73 air-to-air short range missiles and six 250 kg bombs​


"A few BrahMos-armed aircraft will be provided to all IAF Su-30MKI squadrons to wield this capability," an informed observer disclosed. Some will also be kept in reserve.

Analysts term the IAF BrahMos capability "phenomenal". This has a longer range and more destructive potential than any other air-to-surface weapon wielded by the IAF so far.

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A shot of the weapons configuration of the BrahMos-armed Sukhoi fighter.

"The air-launched BrahMos has a strategic role. It is to destroy targets in depth which have strategic value and compromise the war waging capability of an adversary," remarked Air Marshal BK Pandey (Retired), a former Air Officer Commanding-in-Chief of the IAF's Training Command. The strategic targets in depth could be major military bases, ammunition dumps and vital installations. "With its range, the IAF can launch this weapon from its own airspace," Air Marshal Pandey said, pointing out the enhanced stand-off attack capability against a persistent adversary.


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"The air-launched BrahMos has a strategic role. It is to destroy targets in depth which have strategic value and compromise the war waging capability of an adversary," remarked Air Marshal BK Pandey (Retired), a former Air Officer Commanding-in-Chief of the IAF's Training Command​



The availability of this weapon increases India military options for launching surprise precision cross-border attacks from a stand-off range.

This will also beef up India's anti-ship capability in a maritime role, and enable quick reaction against an enemy warship up to 1,400 km from India's coastline.

Its 2.8 Mach supersonic speed and terrain-hugging flight mode also makes it improbable to intercept. "In recently-concluded user trials, this missile has shown itself to be very spectacular, very accurate," a senior IAF officer told SP's Aviation.

India's co-option as a full member of the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) has enabled the increase in the range of the BrahMos from 290 km to 450 km.

IAF operationalises air–launched BrahMos cruise missile in major capability milestone
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Why Astra Mk1 not included in this payload configuration?
 
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