Brahmos Supersonic Cruise Missile : News, Updates and Discussions

There is a missile under development since few years ( 10 years ) which is subsonic but is supersonic during terminal phase.

I posted on it long time back

It is known as Dual Speed Cruise missile ( DSCM ) under development by drdo which will feature a turbofan as main stage and a ramjet engine as second stage. Once it gets nearer to the enemy target, it will jettison its turbofan and fire up the ramjet engine for supersonic engagement during its terminal phase .

I suspect it is for navy

I recently found a wheeled vehicle with a 8 celled missile launcher explicitly mentioning " anti ship missiles " as it's payload.

Also LFRJ is not limited to STAR , it will have other variants like surface to surface and air to surface .
How long, in your estimate, will all these variants take to be inducted ?
 
I think shiv arror is wrong here. If you go by Anantha Krishnan's report from Feb. The nirbhay project is technically closed. Multiple new projects LRLACM,SLCM and ITCM replaces it. (Makes sense to continue calling the land variant Nirbhay though )
  • LRLACM fired from Brahmos UVLS. ie, ship-based
  • Indigenous Technology Cruise Missile (ITCM) ground and air-launched with RF seeker.
  • SLCM (Submarine Launched Cruise Missile) development started in 2017, Confirmed multiple times
There is no evidence that these will have an additional stage with 'ramjet engine'. Even the russian Kalibr only have solid fuel rocket at the terminal stage. It will be very expensive and too difficult to master. And honestly unnecesary.

The LFRJ propultion will be used for the STAR (Supersonic Target system) project.

@hellbent

This article seems more reliable about what DAC has approved as of now.

 
This article seems more reliable about what DAC has approved as of now.

Hardly, No other article is more reliable than original PIB press release. All these journalist are giving their interpretation based on those few paragraphs.

 
How long, in your estimate, will all these variants take to be inducted ?

No idea

I suspect within 5 years or worst case within 10 years

Many missiles I suspect are being tested covertly or under the cover of other missiles

I am posting 2 missile systems previously not known ( or seen ) by many

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HSTDV launcher ( currently undergoing redesign )

@all kindly don't post the pics elsewhere

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I will not mention the name of the missile , I think you will be able to guess it ( not kfour ).

@all kindly don't post the pics elsewhere
 
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There is a missile under development since few years ( 10 years ) which is subsonic but is supersonic during terminal phase.

I posted on it long time back

It is known as Dual Speed Cruise missile ( DSCM ) under development by drdo which will feature a turbofan as main stage and a ramjet engine as second stage. Once it gets nearer to the enemy target, it will jettison its turbofan and fire up the ramjet engine for supersonic engagement during its terminal phase .

I suspect it is for navy

I recently found a wheeled vehicle with a 8 celled missile launcher explicitly mentioning " anti ship missiles " as it's payload.

Also LFRJ is not limited to STAR , it will have other variants like surface to surface and air to surface .
Is that approved missile development or experimental TD ? I haven't seen anything approved list till last year. Anyway, the second stage still wont be 'ramjet'. IN is impressed by Kaliber and want something similar.
 
Is that approved missile development or experimental TD ? I haven't seen anything approved list till last year. Anyway, the second stage still wont be 'ramjet'. IN is impressed by Kaliber and want something similar.

To be frank no idea . Information on DSCM is close to zero.

There are many programs which one will not find in any approved list . Eg " air water hybrid missile " I can guarantee it is under active development but not acknowledged officially.

I don't know about navy requirements . So can't comment on that.

All I know drdo has a considerable no of research programs on different types of turbojet, ramjet , scramjet currently running.
 
LRLACM fired from Brahmos UVLS. ie, ship-based
Some time ago , I read in MOD annual report or some place else( official source not media) that UVLS is being developed for naval ships, which will house Brahmos, Variants of Nirbhay/cruise missiles, Unfortunately I am unable to find this critical piece of information again.
 
@_Anonymous_

few months back I found what can be considered as " alleged evidence " that drdo or ada might be working on developing a manned high altitude stealth bomber . Frankly speaking I did not want to believe it nor do so even now. I posted it's pics in d.fi drdo thread but then again I don't know what to say since the evidence isn't explicit at all, so I would rather wait for official confirmation and take the " alleged info " with a pinch of salt till then
 
Some time ago , I read in MOD annual report or some place else( official source not media) that UVLS is being developed for naval ships, which will house Brahmos, Variants of Nirbhay/cruise missiles, Unfortunately I am unable to find this critical piece of information again.
Yes, its already in production by L&T. This is inclined version.

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Looks like the IUSAV. What's your opinion on it?

No opinion for reasons I mentioned previously

but let's say just for sake of conversation I think it is a manned stealth bomber or a fighter bomber ( more emphasis on the bomber part ), note the cockpit , over wing engines , near wing config , fore wings ( not canards ) etc . Points towards a low level penetration optimised bomber if you ask me . Anyways as of now it is totally speculation .

And it is not connected to IUSAV in any way

This is IUSAV ( there seems to be 2 designs with certain differences )


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No opinion for reasons I mentioned previously

but let's say just for sake of conversation I think it is a manned stealth bomber or a fighter bomber ( more emphasis on the bomber part ), note the cockpit , over wing engines , near wing config , fore wings ( not canards ) etc . Points towards a low level penetration optimised bomber if you ask me . Anyways as of now it is totally speculation .

And it is not connected to IUSAV in any way

This is IUSAV


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If it's not the IUSAV, it must be one of the many concepts DRDO's developing.
 
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@Ashwin

Something for you ......;)


Saurav Jha: So in that context what are some of the new tactical missile systems being developed under DRDO's recently unveiled 'missile autonomy mission?'

Avinash Chander: Our aim via the 'missile autonomy mission' is to cover a wider space as it were. Let me outline some of the new systems being progressed. A new man portable anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) for which design is over and hardware is getting developed. A Longer ranged SAM with a range of 200-250 km is on the drawing board. A quick reaction SAM which can track on move is well-advanced in the design stage. An anti-radiation missile and a long range anti-ship missile which can prevent aircraft carriers from coming within 1500-2000 km of our shores are also being pursued.


Saurav Jha: What is the status of the anti-radiation missile and the long range anti-ship missile?

Avinash Chander: For the anti-radiation missile design is in progress, in fact hardware is being readied for the first trials. We expect successful trials of this ARM from an aircraft in about the next three years.

The long range anti-ship missile is on the drawing board, and we are confident that in about six years we would be able to get it ready. The long range anti-ship missile is going to be a ballistic missile with a seeker which can hit ships at long range.

Saurav Jha: So this is a rough equivalent of the Chinese DF-21D anti-ship ballistic missile? An anti-access/area denial system?

Avinash Chander: Something like that yes. So as you can see almost the entire spectrum of missile capability is being addressed. And addressed to meet state of the art requirements thereby giving full teeth to our armed forces.

@_Anonymous_
 
@Ashwin

Something for you ......;)


Saurav Jha: So in that context what are some of the new tactical missile systems being developed under DRDO's recently unveiled 'missile autonomy mission?'

Avinash Chander: Our aim via the 'missile autonomy mission' is to cover a wider space as it were. Let me outline some of the new systems being progressed. A new man portable anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) for which design is over and hardware is getting developed. A Longer ranged SAM with a range of 200-250 km is on the drawing board. A quick reaction SAM which can track on move is well-advanced in the design stage. An anti-radiation missile and a long range anti-ship missile which can prevent aircraft carriers from coming within 1500-2000 km of our shores are also being pursued.


Saurav Jha: What is the status of the anti-radiation missile and the long range anti-ship missile?

Avinash Chander: For the anti-radiation missile design is in progress, in fact hardware is being readied for the first trials. We expect successful trials of this ARM from an aircraft in about the next three years.

The long range anti-ship missile is on the drawing board, and we are confident that in about six years we would be able to get it ready. The long range anti-ship missile is going to be a ballistic missile with a seeker which can hit ships at long range.

Saurav Jha: So this is a rough equivalent of the Chinese DF-21D anti-ship ballistic missile? An anti-access/area denial system?

Avinash Chander: Something like that yes. So as you can see almost the entire spectrum of missile capability is being addressed. And addressed to meet state of the art requirements thereby giving full teeth to our armed forces.

@_Anonymous_
Yeah, read it then only. Nothing came out of it.
 
Yeah, read it then only. Nothing came out of it.

If I were you I would wait or rather not assume the worse

Indian programs are never on time
Or possibly they disappear sort of in plain view

Anyways I will give you a " sort of example " with full possibility of plausible deniability

Your choice ;)

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