Chinese Wuhan Virus Thread

If you had read my post carefully you would have realised that I covered period only till Mid March. Rallies started later for elections. The second wave had started in first week of March itself. Please recheck your data.
Lol, my point is clear- stop making conspiracy theories, u r sounding like a pakistani teenager on Twitter.
It is not our enemies who asked Modi to pass the ordinance in corona times, it is not our enemies who asked the Punjab governor not to pass the amendments done by Capt to the President.

It is our fault that people were wandering without masks, that govt messed up the management of the production and distribution, and supply sides of the vaccines. Before starting the vaccination program, they should have checked what is the production and what is need, now we don't have enough vaccines.

Indians were already aware of the Second Wave and what problems other nations are facing in the second wave. Still, nothing is done by both state and central govt. Tenders for oxygen plant were released in dec month only. Now we are focussing to increase the number of beds in the hospital.

And Bengal Variant is different, farmers wahan bhi paunch gye?? Or u dont want to accept it is bcz of rallies??
 
From the very begining we knew that this farmers protest has been funded and aided by our enemies. Look at the timelines. In end Aug we checkmate PLA in North and South Bank of P tso and kailash Range. By middle of Sep it dawned on PLA the very difficult situation they were in. In Oct The Farmers protests start in India with a view to choke North India connectivity by blocking all major roads to haryana, Punjab and J&K. Now when these protests failed and GOI refused to bow down to them. The Covid situation which had come under control, was delibrately riuned by these farmers by taking the Covid to rural India which had remained nearly unscatched in the first wave. The health facilities in rural India are next to nothing and in very poor shape.
It was actually very simple to handle these protests. Declare emergency, shove all these protesting *censored*s in prison or better yet...
 
Lol, my point is clear- stop making conspiracy theories, u r sounding like a pakistani teenager on Twitter.
It is not our enemies who asked Modi to pass the ordinance in corona times, it is not our enemies who asked the Punjab governor not to pass the amendments done by Capt to the President.

It is our fault that people were wandering without masks, that govt messed up the management of the production and distribution, and supply sides of the vaccines. Before starting the vaccination program, they should have checked what is the production and what is need, now we don't have enough vaccines.

Indians were already aware of the Second Wave and what problems other nations are facing in the second wave. Still, nothing is done by both state and central govt. Tenders for oxygen plant were released in dec month only. Now we are focussing to increase the number of beds in the hospital.

And Bengal Variant is different, farmers wahan bhi paunch gye?? Or u dont want to accept it is bcz of rallies??
do you have a stable mind? In my response did you read the part about marriage season and lack of enforcement of covid guidelines? does this not mean that we ourselves are responsible for bringing this on us and with major act being done by the farmers? Do you even know that capt. Amarinder Singh led committee gave these very recommendations on which the farm laws were made?
Your part about elections and confining to just Bengal shows that either you are anti BJP or you have an agenda. You are certainly not doing a balanced debate. Why only Bengal repeatedly, because Modi campaigned there. You will keep mum about Kerala, Tamilnadu, Maharashtra byelections and also UP Panchayat elections which UP Govt wanted postponed but the opposition went to HC and ensured that these elections are held as they thought they can gain a windfall due to farmers agittatin in UP.
If you have to respond to me, be balanced or keep your propaganda to yourself. You are blaming central govt for the failure of state govts. Health is a state subject. And if you have to blame central govt than give them credit also for containing the first wave so brilliantly. Do you even know what was our capacity to manufacture PPEs and Masks when it all started and how many labs were equipped to to do tests for corona?
I dont know why some people use the wrong end to shit.
 
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do you have a stable mind? In my response did you read the part about marriage season and lack of enforcement of covid guidelines? does this not mean that we ourselves are responsible for bringing this on us and with major act being done by the farmers? Do you even know that capt. Amarinder Singh led committee gave these very recommendations on which the farm laws were made?
Your part about elections and confining to just Bengal shows that either you are anti BJP or you have an agenda. You are certainly not doing a balanced debate. Why only Bengal repeatedly, because Modi campaigned there. You will keep mum about Kerala, Tamilnadu, Maharashtra byelections and also UP Panchayat elections which UP Govt wanted postponed but the opposition went to HC and ensured that these elections are held as they thought they can gain a windfall due to farmers agittatin in UP.
If you have to respond to me, be balanced or keep your propaganda to yourself. You are blaming central govt for the failure of state govts. Health is a state subject. And if you have to blame central govt than give them credit also for containing the first wave so brilliantly. Do you even know what was our capacity to manufacture PPEs and Masks when it all started and how many labs were equipped to to do tests for corona?
I dont know why some people use the wrong end to shit.

Unfortunately , All the Shortages of
oxygen , Vaccine and Hospital Beds are
Going to be blamed on Modi
 
My native place (Varanasi very near airport) is very worse even as I am writing this post. Daily 4-6 people are expiring in my own village. There are just not enough people to give shoulder (we say Kandha dena in Gaon) today. Just days back uncle expired. People went to Gangaji for activity and halfway reaching they were told aunty died at home. Many of my neighbours gone from this world. I am not sure when I go back to village maybe in few months, how many faces I will be able to see.
Okay. So I may have understood few facts in last two days with the interaction I have had with not only family here in Maharashtra but also relatives back in UP (and this is generally applicable for all Indian states equally). There has been raging debate over number of infection and deaths due to COVID-19. One side claims & tries to overblow the numbers to disproportionate figures so as to bring disrepute to current establishment (be it state or central). There is claim of infection cases going as high as close to 30-40 lakh per day when worst will hit us further in future. Other side claims numbers are not that significant and even if it is alarming, it's probably due to other factors (politically influenced like Kisan aandolan, Nizamuddin, Kumbh, election etc). And it's claimed there is most of the things under control and some higher cases being reported due to aforementioned reasons.

Both are far removed from the reality out here and doing harakiri. Politically suicidal tendency is taking over entire political spectrum across all political parties, their influencers and their sympathizers. Yes there is difference between reported and actual infection/death count. In my observation, the count we are basing our arguments on is basically exact count data supplied by Medical institutions and there is no fact here which can establish that this data is fake or manipulated. However what it doesn't shows is the cases which don't reach the medical institutions, hence those case figures remain off the book.

Questions can be raised if that is by design or it is result of our inefficient and weak contact tracing system.

I was and still am pretty much voter whose vote will go to BJP if the local candidate remains average or above average and BJP doesn't do religious indoctrination like our western neighbours (yes I am balanced in my outlook personal choice due to conditioning and upbringing in RSS institution, not secular, have grown in RSS system from childhood days, hate VHP, Bajrang Dal, Muslim, Christian, Buddhist etc extremist ideology institutions). However when I saw the horrors in the eyes of 11 year old girl next to be during my time fighting CORONA myself, it moved me. Girl couldn't breathe enough oxygen and she knew, her mother knew, outside her father knew, doctors knew, we all patients knew what the danger was and what we were up against. COVID 19 doesn't care if you are BJP walla, Congress walla, Aap, NCP, SP, BJD, communist or any other party, it doesn't care which state you live in, which religion you follow, which caste you were born into, it doesn't care if you're rich, poor or medium class. It doesn't care if you are a patient or medical practitioner. It struck when and where it wanted, it is hitting us now irrespective of wherever we are. And it will again come back in third wave, there is no denying the fact. Most of us have lost loved ones. Families torn apart, relatives gone, neighbours gone. It's bad but we are still here and we have to make sure that not only we follow best possible medical and scientific way to overcome this but also prepare for worst case scenario as well. It's still not too late to focus as worst is yet to come. Thank you.
 
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This will haunt bjp rest of its existence. I hope RSS distances itself from bjp post covid.

The Medical Infrastructure will take at least 10 years ti be improved to effectively face such huge challenges

Whereas Covid is just 1 year old

In the mean time even Courts cannot bring changes through their " Orders"

Even Today Delhi is facing Oxygen shortages
 
Vaccination drive should have been AI enabled where you enter adhaar card details, passport numbers, google maps summary of users and cell tracking details etc. By that we should have vaccinated people who moves alot and comes in contact with lot of people daily. These are super spreaders. But we would have needed a lot more vaccines and try to block virus at the source instead of receivers. For example, we needed vaccines for daily workers like municipality workers, courier guys, cab drivers, employees at shopping malls, politicians along with emergency services workers. With partial lockdown restrictions, that would have slowed down virus from becoming a wave.
 
With partial lockdown restrictions, that would have slowed down virus from becoming a wave.

Our people are uneducated and stubborn , they believe in doing
Whatever they want

They were NOT following events in Foreign countries like Second Wave
And the emergence of Mutants

On the contrary , Vaccine hesitancy led to a wastage of 2 months
 
Unfortunately , All the Shortages of
oxygen , Vaccine and Hospital Beds are
Going to be blamed on Modi
He is partially responsible. This was the time to stop all political and religious gathering. This was the time to declare emergency and make people behave even by force. This was the time to build new temporary hospitals like crazy. This was the time to stockpile needed supply for vaccine manufacturing. All of these are policy failures.

There are massive execution failures too and those are bigger reasons. Beaurocrats should be literally killed for that.

But to say that Modi is NOT responsible at all will be false.
 
Our people are uneducated and stubborn , they believe in doing
Whatever they want
The same Indians who are in Qatar / UAE etc (those are actually both blue collared and white collared Indians) behave really well. Why? Because Indian masses are really good people under pressure. If they know that they could face consequences they behave. Otherwise they don't.

4 of my family members have died in this covid. My uncle who thought that going and congregating in locality temple is more important. My another uncle who thought renting out property in the middle of pandemic is really really a cool idea (he was never short of money, au contrite). My 22 year old cousin who thought that going to Haridwar from Delhi using a car in the middle of second wave is somehow a great idea as ganga mayyah will wash all the sins. My father in law who could not keep himself from meeting his UK returned cousin. None of them could be bothered to vaccinate. My mom and dad thankfully knew how serious the situation is since march 2020. They are holing up in the house. They have sent the house help home, though I still pay her monthly salary. They thankfully have got both the doses of vaccine now but they are going to stay inside the home for coming many months because others around them are well....
 
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He is partially responsible. This was the time to stop all political and religious gathering. This was the time to declare emergency and make people behave even by force. This was the time to build new temporary hospitals like crazy. This was the time to stockpile needed supply for vaccine manufacturing. All of these are policy failures.

There are massive execution failures too and those are bigger reasons. Beaurocrats should be literally killed for that.

But to say that Modi is NOT responsible at all will be false.

The second wave hit very suddenly in April

We had tbought that at the Maximum we will see 1 lakh cases a day

But it jumped from 1 lakh to 4 lakh in a month

Nobody in the Govt , especially the Bureaucracy and Health Ministry would have ever thought about such a huge second Wave

In fact , Modi took vaccine on March 1 at 7 AM and kick-started the second phase

Remdisivir production had been stopped in February
 
I wish you guys go thru what has been spoken in HC of delhi and Maharashtra. Your eyes will pop out. Stop blaming GOI/centre, blame state govts. The advisories for second were there and need to enhance infra were there by GOI from dec itself. state govts failed.
delhi is a state in which people got their houses, shops, vehicles burnt for 200 units of free electicity. They got their wives, daughters and children raped by peacefulls for 200 units of electricity. they got their borders sealed by farmers who are being given free electricity, water and food by AAP govt resulting in loss of jobs and businesses in delhi border areas for 200 units of free electricy. Khujli has shown us how cheaply v can sell our souls and all that is dear to us.
ENJOY THE FREEBIES WITH NO HOSPITAL, NO OXYGEN PLANT, NO INFRA, NO SCHOOLS, NO SECURITY ANS ABUNDENT SUPPORT FOR JIHADIS AND DESHDROHIES.
LOOK INWARDS. DONT BLAME MODI. TAXES DENGE NAHI. MUFT KHORI CHAHIYE. AUR PHIR RONA DHONA BHI.

Kejriwal is bored of Delhi
Because Now , there is no power
With the CM

At the most , he will try to get money for his expansion plans


He wants Punjab

Now that LG is the Real Power Centre in Delhi , they should turn it around
 
Our people are uneducated and stubborn , they believe in doing
Whatever they want

They were NOT following events in Foreign countries like Second Wave
And the emergence of Mutants

On the contrary , Vaccine hesitancy led to a wastage of 2 months

In reference to story of race between rabbit and turtle, India became rabbit, made progress early on and then slept through race. And now we are seeing turtles beating us in race.

BJP also developed narrow vision of looking only to media and opposition, both were claiming covid-19 is dead in India and vaccines will cause more side-effects than good. This kept BJP brass in comfort zone and then got hammered, completely unprepared, by second wave.

This should give lessons to BJP and policy makers to look beyond arguments of failure opposition and biased media. Don't overlook a problem if you have achieved victory. There can be more devestating scenarios that wouldn't be thought of and raised by dumb adversaries.

Your enemy is coronavirus, not Congress, not AAP, not Yadavs, not NTDV etc. Beat the virus and everyone else will be beaten automatically.
 
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The second wave hit very suddenly in April
There was experience of such waves everywhere. UK comes to mind, it went from 10-15K to 55-60K cases in matter of weeks :
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It was not unexpected.

We had tbought that at the Maximum we will see 1 lakh cases a day
Well, we knew in other countries second waves were much massive as compared to first waves. See above.

But it jumped from 1 lakh to 4 lakh in a month
Just like UK.

Nobody in the Govt , especially the Bureaucracy and Health Ministry would have ever thought about such a huge second Wave
Quite to opposite. There was no reason to NOT expect a massive second wave. Many countries like UK and France faced similar situation.

In fact , Modi took vaccine on March 1 at 7 AM and kick-started the second phase
I don't blame Modi for vaccine exports and the vaccine schedule. No I dont blame him for that. That was not the reason for our predicament.

I blame him for NOT declaring emergency in Sept 2020 or so and cancelling ALL elections till the pandemic is brought under control.
I blame him for NOT crushing all the protesting idiots under treads of tanks like it should have been done. I blame him for not removing all the protesting *censored*s from roads and thrown in ditches to die.
I blame him for NOT blocking ALL flights via which UK variant arrived in India carried possibly by Punjabi *censored*s who joined Farmer Protests.
I blame him for NOT pushing beaurocracy to float and open tenders for oxygen concentrators in ALL District hospitals till october (just after first wave reached its peak). They knew this issue since 2017 at least.
I blame him for NOT constituting an "empowered panel" in mid 2020 to procure all then needed supplies for vaccine manufacturing.
I blame him for not pumping 10s of billions in expanding vaccine manufacturing capacities in India. I dont care if Adar Poonawalla makes 100s of millions, hell during peak hour even god damned Ola-Uber idiots charge surge charges. But scaling vaccine production should have been priority.
I blame him for NOT making a public private partnership to promote vaccine manufacturing. He is not a stranger to entrepenures.

Remdisivir production had been stopped in February
I don't know how effective that drug is in combating covid. I don't know if that decision has a bearing on our situation.
 
Availability of bed in hospitals of TN are getting scarce.
WhatsApp are filled filled with request s about available beds for admission.
Things are at critical point now in TN.

Hope people don't die on roads soon.

No lock down yet.

And curve is still in steep raise.
Many companies are closing down because of corona spread among workers.

But hey stats say TN is at better position.

Between how is our disaster management doing? No new innovative ideas?
 
LOOK INWARDS. DONT BLAME MODI. TAXES DENGE NAHI. MUFT KHORI CHAHIYE. AUR PHIR RONA DHONA BHI.
You are wrong sir. For policy failures Modi is responsible. Though beaurocrats are bigger failure.

Indians made a war chest of 3000 Cr for exactly supporting covid efforts. A number of issues were simply NOT cash limited. A 200 Carore tender for oxygen concentrators in hospitals was NOT delayed due to insufficent cash, there was plenty of funds for it. It was floated in October 2020 for some weird reason, we knew it was a problem since 2017. This is a failure.

If more funds were needed, India could have got emergency loans of 10s of billion dollars from IMF on short notice. If India would have floated a covid-war bond in 2020, it would have over-subscribed in matter of minutes. There is too much money presently seeking too few places to be invested. India would have got really really good interest rates for money it needs.
 
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From the looks of things rolling out, Govt intends save ' economy ' at the cost of lives that are swept under the carpet.

Onus is with people to stay indoors.

If only real datas are published, people will get more serious.

Now it s lack of beds in hospital, that's alarming people to think about seriousness of issue.
 
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