Chinese Wuhan Virus Thread

STEPHEN COHEN said:
The poor dont seem to be dying in
Large numbers

This second wave has hit the middle class and Upper Middle class

You might be aware that the poor in India live in " Bad Conditions " which makes their natural immunity much stronger


First let the Census happen

You have to convince Hindus also for this or else there will be mass agitation

If the Demographic Balance has shifted in favour of " M - The Peaceful " community ; because of Covid , ONLY then you can sell this idea
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Religion isn't going to be the force for reduction in absolute population numbers. That's fallacy. There is visible reduction in population growth rate of both Hinduism and Islam followers, Hinduism bit ahead of Islam followers in growth rate reduction. However it's not going to matter much as both will see the reduction in absolute population numbers almost simultaneously. Islam is projected to follow Hinduism within 5 years on absolute population numbers reduction once Hinduism starts the population decline in next 20-30 years. It's going to happen one way or another until there is change in political borders of country.
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
The poor dont seem to be dying in
Large numbers

This second wave has hit the middle class and Upper Middle class

You might be aware that the poor in India live in " Bad Conditions " which makes their natural immunity much stronger


First let the Census happen

You have to convince Hindus also for this or else there will be mass agitation

If the Demographic Balance has shifted in favour of " M - The Peaceful " community ; because of Covid , ONLY then you can sell this idea
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There will always be layers of issues regarding this. But there is one central issue that we don't have and cannot possibly in any universe have enough resources to serve this large a population. And if unchecked things will only get worse in coming years because this will not be the last of biological warfare we are gonna face.

Just for example, we don't have a shortage of vaccine. The amount of vaccination done in India in last few months cannot be matched by any country. But it's covering less than 10-12% only. Similar numbers in USA mean 50% population covered. And USA is one of the largest country in terms of population.

We just have tooooooooo many people in too few resources.
RISING SUN said:
One child policy. Two child policy isn't sustainable. We need to bring population below 25 Cr. I know it sounds freaking impossible but some figures need to be set up.
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By the size of our country, anything over 80-85 crore will be a burden.

But 2 child policy can be sustained over a longer period of time imo. Single child policy can have gender imbalance problems for our future generations. But if it's necessary, then we have to implement it. Just keep the teachings from Chinese implementation in mind.
 
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RISING SUN said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1388714299774754817
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Newzealand embassy had reported COVID19 cases and had requested for urgent support. Unfortunately they had to send SOS message today for oxyzen supply which resulted in political slugfest. Previous tweet deleted upon finding that SOS twitter handle was being operated by Youth Congress leader. Now revised tweet send requesting for urgent supply.
 
RISING SUN said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1388700953348554758
And the political harakiri continues unabated... Hum nhi sudhrenge.
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Here claim was made that Phillipines embassy requested for oxyzen cylinder support. Youth congress team responded allegedly. Jairam Ramesh dragged MEA in political slugfest. MEA responded saying there wasn't any case reported from Phillipines embassy, hence fake case and wastage of cylinder supply in this difficult time.
All in all not good from any point of view especially when situation on the ground is very bad. Waste of resources.
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
The poor dont seem to be dying in
Large numbers

This second wave has hit the middle class and Upper Middle class

You might be aware that the poor in India live in " Bad Conditions " which makes their natural immunity much stronger


First let the Census happen

You have to convince Hindus also for this or else there will be mass agitation

If the Demographic Balance has shifted in favour of " M - The Peaceful " community ; because of Covid , ONLY then you can sell this idea
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There is also reason why poor s census won't be Accurate.
They don't do testing in private labs.
Govt is deliberately giving negative s in govt setup.
Private health care is ridiculously costly in cities ..
 
Saaho said:
For all we know, the number of deaths among poors is not even known.
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It can be easily known in Big cities

Since the Hospitals are already full , any large scale deaths in Slums and Other poor localities would have been immediately highlighted by the media

Or there would have been large scale protests

This wave has hit the middle class
 
RISING SUN said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1388700953348554758
And the political harakiri continues unabated... Hum nhi sudhrenge.
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Fake news business. It has a huge presence in NCR. Have you ever wondered why so many Social media influencers are having such a huge following in YT and Twitter?.
For example some times ago Facebook enabled a feature so that people can see the past history of a Page. And the page named “The logical Indian” was started with the title “Kejriwal
-our Next PM” on FB during the second election of Kejriwal govt in Delhi.
same is true for likes of Akash Ban... and that amuck face on YT (forgetting his name)

There is a reason PAAP has such a huge advertisement budget. It’s feeding a lot of vultures at the cost of public.
 
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Sathya said:
Private health care is ridiculously costly in cities ..
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Only true for Big metro cities like Delhi, Mumbai etc, not for third and second tire cities like Lucknow, Raipur etc. Private hospitals like Narayana, Care group, Shri Balaji trust hospitals etc program very good services at very affordable price. And btw even the govt hospitals use private laboratories like Dr Lal , SRL, Metropolis etc due to their modern technology and affordability, on contract basis.
 
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AbRaj said:
Just yesterday visited the nearest CHC for vaccination of my parents. There were hardly 14/15 elders were present to get the jab mostly first only few for second.
People still are not coming to get the vaccines even though the centre had sufficient supply available to cover the nearest colonies.

BTW enrolling few lacks of a billion people can’t be called waiting for the vaccine.
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Just booked an appointment for vaccination of whole family on 6th. Hopefully will not face much crowd.
Everyone should book an appointment and get the jabs ASAP.
 
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RISING SUN said:
Yes it can be. It's the question of biting the bullet and declaration of emergency with military deployment which neither of us have. I don't blame only political parties for the debacle. Policy related wrongs do attribute to them but we as a collective society also have to do soul searching and it's not one time affair, and not limited to medical emergency only.
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We both know it’s just a fantasy and things don’t work like that in India.
politicians are part of the same society. They represent us.
why blame them when it’s us who choose them. Fact is that our political system is so toxic that no honest man can even imagine to get any success until and unless he is well funded con-man like the “India against corruption” fame Sultan Kejrudeen and his Chaddha gang, who thinks that it’s Centre responsibility to arrange the transportation of Alloted O2 and to bring it to the doorstep of each and every hospitals of Delhi Sultanate. Delhi government’s job is to make sure that every roadside billboard has smuck face of Kejriwal laughing on the people.
I mean come on how big an *censored* this Chaddha guy could be . He was saying that since Delhi government hasn’t brought any cryo tanker in last 7 years unlike poorer states like UP, Bihar or small states like Assam, Kerala, it’s not responsible for transport of Alloted O2 to the Delhi hospitals.
happens when you spend entire budget on Advertisements and of course that 200 units of free electricity.
All other well managed States are not fools to not subsidise commodities such as electricity and water needlessly and instead using the money to improve the state infrastructure.
RISING SUN said:
That means there are regions where people want doses but can't get it due to unavailability, partly because of higher public participation for jabs. And then there are regions where doses are available but people are apprehensive of getting the doses due to one or another reason. Am I correct in understanding?
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Yes, correct. And I just booked appointment for getting the vax my entire family on 6th
Although even tomorrow evening slot is available too.
You too should get the jabs ASAP.
 
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AbRaj said:
We both know it’s just a fantasy and things don’t work like that in India.
politicians are part of the same society. They represent us.
why blame them when it’s us who choose them. Fact is that our political system is so toxic that no honest man can even imagine to get any success until and unless he is well funded con-man like the “India against corruption” fame Sultan Kejrudeen and his Chaddha gang, who thinks that it’s Centre responsibility to arrange the transportation of Alloted O2 and to bring it to the doorstep of each and every hospitals of Delhi Sultanate. Delhi government’s job is to make sure that every roadside billboard has smuck face of Kejriwal laughing on the people.
I mean come on how big an *censored* this Chaddha guy could be . He was saying that since Delhi government hasn’t brought any cryo tanker in last 7 years unlike poorer states like UP, Bihar or small states like Assam, Kerala, it’s not responsible for transport of Alloted O2 to the Delhi hospitals.
happens when you spend entire budget on Advertisements and of course that 200 units of free electricity.
All other well managed States are not fools to not subsidise commodities such as electricity and water needlessly and instead using the money to improve the state infrastructure.
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I believe that IF Delhi had a BJP govt
There would have been no shortage of
Oxygen

I am not a supporter of Kejriwal

But what happened in Delhi is plain common sense

BJP wanted to discredit Kejriwal
https://twitter.com/x/status/1388838549970161665
https://twitter.com/x/status/1388839999576023045
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
I believe that IF Delhi had a BJP govt
There would have been no shortage of
Oxygen

I am not a supporter of Kejriwal

But what happened in Delhi is plain common sense

BJP wanted to discredit Kejriwal
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No. It means if any sane person should’ve been ruling Delhi, like say Sheila Dixit, she/he should have done the necessary arrangements and resolved the crisis. Or
1 Should’ve installed O2 generators like we have in every Medical College Hospitals including all central Hospitals in Delhi like AIIMS etc.
2 Orders small concentrators from China and other manufacturers which cost roughly 40-50 thousand a piece. Or about 1 lacks with multiport facility.
3 should’ve arranged few cryo tankers like all other states to transport Alloted O2 rather than playing blame games with Centre.
BTW Centre do have few Cryo tankers for their own Hospitals like all the AIIMS etc and also for other purposes.
but to blame central government for your incompetence when people are dying on streets and hospitals of Delhi is just outrageous.
But it’s working because two different parties are ruling there. When you are a shameless person like Kejriwal, you can justify anything and have huge online paid media and influencers to back you up.
 
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