Chinese Wuhan Virus Thread

Delhi is going backwards since Sheila Dixit Departure. Its infrastructure is crumbling and slums/illegal colonies are spreading like wildfire

Are you a Delhiite? All I can say is Delhiwallas sold their city for 200 units of free electricity to some guy who should have been an IT admin in some private company.

They should change it back to a UT.
 
LoL it’s not like Modi had done something special to become “Atmnirbhar” in vaccine production.
the SII and other Pharma companies invested their own money in purchasing IP right from Oxford-Az consortium. And simultaneously funding their own R&D. Govt did zilch unlike US and UK who provided funds to companies like Pfizer and JJ etc for vaccine development and setting up manufacturing.
Imagine that being done by Modi and we have @jetry and cohorts crying Ambani and Adani and Modi rezzaiin for years to come. Lol.
Anyway our best bet is all what we have as GOI can’t afford to import vaccines for 1.7 billion people specially in this cut throat demand. US companies are literally demanding arms and legs for their vax. Chinese one is just placebo.
Sputnik is the only other real alternative which Dr raddy is going to manufacture anyway.
Can we have fast tracked it ? Yes definitely but the GOI sat on it for months

Absolutely, if second wave had been avoided by vaccines made by Adani and Ambani, they and Modi would have been cursed till death for profiteering and scams and what not!

No one believes an apocalypse until one sees it. Now everyone is ready to get vaccinated as opposed to month earlier.

We dig our own graves and dumb pappu-liberals cabal is also responsible for it.
 
We both know it’s just a fantasy and things don’t work like that in India.
politicians are part of the same society. They represent us.
why blame them when it’s us who choose them. Fact is that our political system is so toxic that no honest man can even imagine to get any success until and unless he is well funded con-man like the “India against corruption” fame Sultan Kejrudeen and his Chaddha gang, who thinks that it’s Centre responsibility to arrange the transportation of Alloted O2 and to bring it to the doorstep of each and every hospitals of Delhi Sultanate. Delhi government’s job is to make sure that every roadside billboard has smuck face of Kejriwal laughing on the people.
I mean come on how big an *censored* this Chaddha guy could be . He was saying that since Delhi government hasn’t brought any cryo tanker in last 7 years unlike poorer states like UP, Bihar or small states like Assam, Kerala, it’s not responsible for transport of Alloted O2 to the Delhi hospitals.
happens when you spend entire budget on Advertisements and of course that 200 units of free electricity.
All other well managed States are not fools to not subsidise commodities such as electricity and water needlessly and instead using the money to improve the state infrastructure.

Yes, correct. And I just booked appointment for getting the vax my entire family on 6th
Although even tomorrow evening slot is available too.
You too should get the jabs ASAP.
I just got discharged after COVID19 infection three days back and doctors have advised at least three to four weeks wait before taking the first jab. In short there should be 40-45 days gap from the day one gets infected if person wants the jab.
 
I don't think supplies were affected. Even Poonawalla said that he doesn't need raw materials for Covishield but for a new vaccine called Covovax.
From your own article :
"A senior government official, on condition of anonymity, said that India is hopeful that the US government will allow the supply of raw materials for Covovax as well after they had allowed supply for Covishield."

India is dependent on US for bio-reactor bags etc.
 
I just got discharged after COVID19 infection three days back and doctors have advised at least three to four weeks wait before taking the first jab. In short there should be 40-45 days gap from the day one gets infected if person wants the jab.
I guess you will need only one dose. As you already have clinical infection once.
Anyway your immunity will be much more broad and effective than the one induced by vaccines
 
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BJP's greed for political power has done all of India in. All they wanted was elections and rallies. Stupidity to max. Should have waited till 70% of population was vaccinated. Elections should have been banned for foreseeable future till pandemic abates.
 
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BJP's greed for political power has done all of India in. All they wanted was elections and rallies. Stupidity to max. Should have waited till 70% of population was vaccinated. Elections should have been banned for foreseeable future till pandemic abates.

Bihar elections were held last year in NOV

If you postpone elections , opposition
Will go to court

Elections are not the problem , Rallies are the problem
 
Bihar elections were held last year in NOV

If you postpone elections , opposition
Will go to court

Elections are not the problem , Rallies are the problem
700 teachers died in stupid elections in UP.
(700 govt school staff died on poll duty: UP teachers’ body writes to CM, EC)

There is no need to carry out elections, RIGHT NOW.

Actually, it was pretty easy for Modi to ask for stopping elections right now. When the number of cases were sky high last time, in september, Modi should have made a public appeal to cancel all kinds of congregations religious and political. Indian people would have listened.
 
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700 teachers died in stupid elections in UP.
(700 govt school staff died on poll duty: UP teachers’ body writes to CM, EC)

There is no need to carry out elections, RIGHT NOW.

Actually, it was pretty easy for Modi to ask for stopping elections right now. When the number of cases were sky high last time, in september, Modi should have made a public appeal to cancel all kinds of congregations religious and political. Indian people would have listened.

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As for opposition, it would have been politically suicidal for them. Plus if push comes to shove, he should have declared emergency with explicit reason to protect Indian lives. Given his strong man image and current situation, no one would have questioned it unlike Indra Gandhi's fake emergency reasons.

I think I know the reasons why. It was BJP's own internal politics. There must be some promises made to candidates in BJP. This weird indecisive behavior of BJP is because of beaurocracy and BJP's internal politics.
 
From your own article :
"A senior government official, on condition of anonymity, said that India is hopeful that the US government will allow the supply of raw materials for Covovax as well after they had allowed supply for Covishield."

India is dependent on US for bio-reactor bags etc.

Yeah, the Americans incorrectly supplied raw materials for Covishield instead. It's likely that alternatives for Covishield already existed, we simply didn't know about it. Otoh, Covovax's alternate suppliers are yet to be contracted.
 
700 teachers died in stupid elections in UP.
(700 govt school staff died on poll duty: UP teachers’ body writes to CM, EC)

There is no need to carry out elections, RIGHT NOW.

Actually, it was pretty easy for Modi to ask for stopping elections right now. When the number of cases were sky high last time, in september, Modi should have made a public appeal to cancel all kinds of congregations religious and political. Indian people would have listened.

Religious, yes. But it's impossible to stop political congregations. It's because the opposition will play it as a move towards dictatorship by the Modi govt and the first step towards the introduction of a martial law using the Covid excuse.

Did you forget the US had their elections at the height of the pandemic in the US? It's impossible to stop political congregations unless we are under martial law. And that's synonymous with Emergency, which is pretty much a political blackhole.

The only thing that could stop the pandemic was if people took the disease seriously and avoided gatherings altogether. It's basic self-realisation. But people think this disease is like the flu and a bit of fever.

Man, what the govt should have done is told people that those who get infected will have a very high risk of getting erectile dysfunction. The crowds would have disappeared overnight.
 
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As for opposition, it would have been politically suicidal for them. Plus if push comes to shove, he should have declared emergency with explicit reason to protect Indian lives. Given his strong man image and current situation, no one would have questioned it unlike Indra Gandhi's fake emergency reasons.

I think I know the reasons why. It was BJP's own internal politics. There must be some promises made to candidates in BJP. This weird indecisive behavior of BJP is because of beaurocracy and BJP's internal politics.

Can't declare emergency over such reasons. The disease only kills 1% of the infected. It's not enough to do anything.

Otoh, WHO estimated 1 in 10 will get cancer in India and 1 in 15 will die. Diarrhoea alone has killed 4 times as many people in the last 1 year as Covid has in India, and the diarrhoea static is for only those who are less than 5 years old, not adults. And there are worse diseases that kill even more, like typhoid and measles.

Basically the Covid deaths to date are peanuts. No one's gonna declare emergency for this.
 
Yeah, the Americans incorrectly supplied raw materials for Covishield instead. It's likely that alternatives for Covishield already existed, we simply didn't know about it. Otoh, Covovax's alternate suppliers are yet to be contracted.
It does not work like that. The suppliers are not US government but US firms. Put it simply, US government will allow sale of items. US suppliers cann't sell them unless SII asks for them specifically.

Religious, yes. But it's impossible to stop political congregations. It's because the opposition will play it as a move towards dictatorship by the Modi govt and the first step towards the introduction of a martial law using the Covid excuse.

Did you forget the US had their elections at the height of the pandemic in the US? It's impossible to stop political congregations unless we are under martial law. And that's synonymous with Emergency, which is pretty much a political blackhole.

The only thing that could stop the pandemic was if people took the disease seriously and avoided gatherings altogether. It's basic self-realisation. But people think this disease is like the flu and a bit of fever.

Man, what the govt should have done is told people that those who get infected will have a very high risk of getting erectile dysfunction. The crowds would have disappeared overnight.
Honestly, nationalism is the front on which any attack on Modi government would have gone worthless. Modi has been called dictator since always. It has only helped him. Those who vote for him will love to vote for him if he is called dictator because those people actually want a benign nationalist dictator. Someone who is decisive. I mean these are the people who gave him high marks AFTER the lockdown which was decried as dictatorial. Stopping religious congregation will be much bigger issue in India than political ones. But if Modi appeals, there is hardly anyone who will say no to it.

Lastly on the front of what is needful, US had presidential election, we are still doing stupid Panchayat election and losing innocent lives in it. If Indian government declares Emergency and it is well in its rights to declare emegency in sept-aug 2020, there is nothing any one can do against it. There are no stories to spin about it. Words like dictator etc have lost their power in India. Remember what happened when they called Modi to be running a SCAM in India? Congress got butchered. Actually, right now, ONLY threat to Modi will come from the idea that he is ineffective leader.

Can't declare emergency over such reasons. The disease only kills 1% of the infected. It's not enough to do anything.

Otoh, WHO estimated 1 in 10 will get cancer in India and 1 in 15 will die. Diarrhoea alone has killed 4 times as many people in the last 1 year as Covid has in India, and the diarrhoea static is for only those who are less than 5 years old, not adults. And there are worse diseases that kill even more, like typhoid and measles.

Basically the Covid deaths to date are peanuts. No one's gonna declare emergency for this.
The reason why this disease is dangerous is NOT that it kills a lot. It is because it makes so many people so sick that it can crush the health care system like it is doing right now. The fight right now is to keep the health care infra intact, which has collapsed. When that happens, LOTS of people die. People who won't die otherwise. There is a reason why we have overflowing funeral grounds. Its because we do not have means to treat those who are getting badly sick FOR ANY reason. This disease is making a lot of otherwise less problematic diseases lethal.
 
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I guess you will need only one dose. As you already have clinical infection once.
Anyway your immunity will be much more broad and effective than the one induced by vaccines
No, doctor clearly said I would also require two doses. And yes a positive patient does have higher immunity from COVID19 even if for short term.
 
Modi's handling of Covid 19 is a bigger failure than Op swift retort was for porkistanis. Shameful that so many lives lost just for the short sightedness of this guy.
 
Modi's handling of Covid 19 is a bigger failure than Op swift retort was for porkistanis. Shameful that so many lives lost just for the short sightedness of this guy.
There is no doubt Modi administration has *censored*ed up badly and knowingly. What is also important is to ensure that the bureaucracy responsible for this mess is made an example too. They need to be punished hard. Very hard and publicly so that no new aspirant for a government beaurocratic job will ever dare to seek it just as an easy place to retire.

We, the people, have always cursed politicians but these folks are more insidious. They are seldom punished really. Their properties are seldom captured. Their families seldom suffer. Its time modi administration shows us what happens to criminally ineffective government beaurocrats.

India has been let down not just by politicans but also majorly by these beaurocrats too.