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Are you suggesting DeGaulle was a coward or Dunkirk was a huge victory ?Kindly elaborate .
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Many Britons forget (unlike in the propaganda movie called 'Dunkirk') that it is actually the frogs and the cheese eaters who sacrificed themselves to cover the retreat of allied troops and avoided them total annihilation.

Neither they know French soldiers were desperatly containing German reinforcements for days in Lille from reaching Dunkirk..... 30 to 40K soldiers outnumbered and outgunned fighting desperatly an already lost fight against entire German divisions.... which allowed more soldiers to be saved from Dunkirk.....

They love to make fun about the French,but neither their expeditionary corps did great at the beginning of the conflict,in fact it did worse. Many forget again they would have suffered the same fate of France if they weren't an island with no direct connection to the European mainland.

Difference with the next conflict is that Britain will not have millions and millions of Asians to fight for the 'King'.... sorry,the 'Queen'. @Guynextdoor @Amal
 
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Vergennes said:
Difference with the next conflict is that Britain will not have millions and millions of Asians to fight for the 'King'.... sorry,the 'Queen'.
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You're totally mistaken . As with @BMD there are a lot of Irish out there willing to sacrifice their lives & limbs for the Queen. Why count on the Asians when Irish make better cannon fodder. Further , I believe @BMD wet her knickers in the climax of Dunkirk.It was that rousing . I was referring to the film , but of course .
 
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Bon Plan said:
Mirage 2000-5 remain a very nice platform. ask UAE or india what they think about it. Mirage 2000 D.... ok, outdated.

In Argentina the Mirage 3 were without radar coverage, with just old sidewinter, without guided weapons, in the limit of their range ! Harrier flew near carrier, with radar coverage, with newer AAM....
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Most of the encounters happened at low altitude beyond the horizon. Mirage is old, as old as the English Electric Lightning nearly.
 
Bon Plan said:
It's the better thing that could arrived to EU !
1) It will costs you a lot (see the pound...)
2) your groth rate will suffer.

But mainly, GB will stop upset the European construction.

Next step : A polandexit and some east country exit, only taking the others money but blocking the EU.
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The £-$ exchange rate is roughly back where it was, which brings our nominal GDP back up and means we'll be buying more from the US and less from the EU.

Ah, you've noticed. It was largely due to this phenomenon combined with nation flooding that we left.
 
Vergennes said:
Many Britons forget (unlike in the propaganda movie called 'Dunkirk') that it is actually the frogs and the cheese eaters who sacrificed themselves to cover the retreat of allied troops and avoided them total annihilation.

Neither they know French soldiers were desperatly containing German reinforcements for days in Lille from reaching Dunkirk..... 30 to 40K soldiers outnumbered and outgunned fighting desperatly an already lost fight against entire German divisions.... which allowed more soldiers to be saved from Dunkirk.....

They love to make fun about the French,but neither their expeditionary corps did great at the beginning of the conflict,in fact it did worse.

Difference with the next conflict is that Britain will not have millions and millions of Asians to fight for the 'King'.... sorry,the 'Queen'. @Guynextdoor @Amal
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But who comprised most of the force storming the beaches in June 1944? All the French were able to do is shoot fleeing German soldiers in the back.
 
BMD said:
CdG fled to the UK and refused to join NATO.
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Just have a look to your own situation : the GB nuclear warheads are under a double key regime.
If uncle Donald don't give you his OK, you are with the pant on the knees. :eek:

Thanks to Charles de Gaulle, we are not.
 
BMD said:
CdG fled to the UK and refused to join NATO.
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But how does not going the NATO make him a coward ? Au contraire he was brave enough to stand up to the then USSR without depending on the security umbrella the US had to offer. Unlike Britain .
 
BMD said:
All the French were able to do is shoot fleeing German soldiers in the back.
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That was below the belt and not true .The French were very much part of the D Day landings and what's more the Resistance did a marvellous job keeping the Jerries on their toes all along the occupation apart from keeping French hopes & morale alive .

Where were the Irish in all this ? What was their contribution in WW-2 ? Could you shed some light on it ?
 
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Bon Plan said:
If uncle Donald don't give you his OK, you are with the pant on the knees.
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That's nothing new .The Irish are used to having their pants around their knees or below . They're very obliging , that way . Their disposition owes itself to English colonisation for more than 7 centuries .
 
De Gaulle refused to join NATO so much that France is a founding member and French is an official language of the alliance.
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Why do you think the official logo of the organization has both NATO and OTAN on it? No, it's not because of Canada, or Belgium.

De Gaulle merely withdrew France from integrated command, so as to build an independent nuclear deterrence system, but France always remained in the alliance.
 
Vergennes said:
Many Britons forget (unlike in the propaganda movie called 'Dunkirk') that it is actually the frogs and the cheese eaters who sacrificed themselves to cover the retreat of allied troops and avoided them total annihilation.

Neither they know French soldiers were desperatly containing German reinforcements for days in Lille from reaching Dunkirk..... 30 to 40K soldiers outnumbered and outgunned fighting desperatly an already lost fight against entire German divisions.... which allowed more soldiers to be saved from Dunkirk.....

They love to make fun about the French,but neither their expeditionary corps did great at the beginning of the conflict,in fact it did worse. Many forget again they would have suffered the same fate of France if they weren't an island with no direct connection to the European mainland.

Difference with the next conflict is that Britain will not have millions and millions of Asians to fight for the 'King'.... sorry,the 'Queen'. @Guynextdoor @Amal
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You are right.

This is frequently forgotten, just as the role of the Russian Army in WWII and in the Napoleonic Wars is under-represented, to the point of seeming to be almost deliberate, or the role of Bluecher at Waterloo is almost brushed aside.

The point being that whichever war it is, whichever army they happened to be fighting, the impression given is that a handful of ethnic British achieved either victory or glorious defeat amounting to moral victory against the foe.

As far as that goes, considering your remark about the millions and millions of Asians fighting for the King-Emperor, you might be interested to look up the order of battle of the British 8th Army, and spot the Indian Army formations in that.

The British, whether English, Scots or Irish, were great soldiers; back at the time of Agincourt, even the Welsh were great soldiers. But they (the British) did not win every war, and they did not win every battle. Never mind the interesting histories.
 
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_Anonymous_ said:
That was below the belt and not true .The French were very much part of the D Day landings and what's more the Resistance did a marvellous job keeping the Jerries on their toes all along the occupation apart from keeping French hopes & morale alive .

Where were the Irish in all this ? What was their contribution in WW-2 ? Could you shed some light on it ?
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It was true, there are even videos of it. Quite funny though, they weren't expecting the speed of the allied advance and some were literally caught with their pants down.

Yes they had refreshments on standby.

The Irish fight in the British Army.
 
Bon Plan said:
Just have a look to your own situation : the GB nuclear warheads are under a double key regime.
If uncle Donald don't give you his OK, you are with the pant on the knees. :eek:

Thanks to Charles de Gaulle, we are not.
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This has already been rebutted to death. Why would the US have UK nukes under its control, if it could just have them under their own control in the first place?

No, America doesn't control Britain's nuclear weapons
 
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De Gaulle refused to join NATO so much that France is a founding member and French is an official language of the alliance.
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Why do you think the official logo of the organization has both NATO and OTAN on it? No, it's not because of Canada, or Belgium.

De Gaulle merely withdrew France from integrated command, so as to build an independent nuclear deterrence system, but France always remained in the alliance.
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That's as good as pulling them out.
 
Vergennes said:
Many Britons forget (unlike in the propaganda movie called 'Dunkirk') that it is actually the frogs and the cheese eaters who sacrificed themselves to cover the retreat of allied troops and avoided them total annihilation.

Neither they know French soldiers were desperatly containing German reinforcements for days in Lille from reaching Dunkirk..... 30 to 40K soldiers outnumbered and outgunned fighting desperatly an already lost fight against entire German divisions.... which allowed more soldiers to be saved from Dunkirk.....

They love to make fun about the French,but neither their expeditionary corps did great at the beginning of the conflict,in fact it did worse. Many forget again they would have suffered the same fate of France if they weren't an island with no direct connection to the European mainland.

Difference with the next conflict is that Britain will not have millions and millions of Asians to fight for the 'King'.... sorry,the 'Queen'. @Guynextdoor @Amal
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We are discussing a topic where the RAF declared eurofighter, a jet without AESA, medium range and zero thrust vectoring the ‘the best fighter jet in the world’. And we have doubts about whether the British are bull shit artists?


@BMD my Bullock cart is a Lamborghini.
 
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