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vsdoc said:
You want me to now defend Hindus as well.

You do that.

I'll limit myself to Parsis.

Get with the program anna.

India is dead. Long live the fragmented cheese holed chaos we are ancestrally comfortable with.

Ever man, every community, an island.

Cheers, Doc
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Tum karo toh chamatkaar. Hum karein toh balaatkaar?
I'm not asking you to defend anybody least of all the Dharmics. I'm merely asking how are some superstitions justified under the religious rubric and some condemned under the law. Besides, Parsis are supposed to be a progressive community. Hell one one of my classmates is sharing his home with his wife and boyfriend. I found that as hard to digest as your recalcitrant views. And the icing on the cake is you're accusing me of being regressive.
 
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vsdoc said:
Accha ...

Calcutta small.

Bengal small.

Bombay big.

That too in British India.

I'll bug out now .... headache ho ya do, sir to mera phat raha hai.

Cheers, Doc
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Ok. I'd be fair to you. Name me one Bengali who made his fortune trading opium. Just one. Since you've brought up the Bengalis here.
 
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Tum karo toh chamatkaar. Hum karein toh balaatkaar?
I'm not asking you to defend anybody least of all the Dharmics. I'm merely asking how are some superstitions justified under the religious rubric and some condemned under the law. Besides, Parsis are supposed to be a progressive community. Hell one one of my classmates is sharing his home with his wife and boyfriend. I found that as hard to digest as your recalcitrant views. And the icing on the cake is you're accusing me of being regressive.
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Nice one.

Get sexually deviant and paint bawas as gay cucks when all else fails.

@Aravind this should interest you bro.

Cheers, Doc
 
vsdoc said:
Nice one.

Get sexually deviant and paint bawas as gay cucks when all else fails.

@Aravind this should interest you bro.

Cheers, Doc
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I said the same house. You implied the same bed. Not my words nor did I imply it coz I'm not interested in sullying anyone's name least of all a classmate.Besides I'm not one to stereotype a community based on one sample. Unless you've your own list.
 
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Ok. I'd be fair to you. Name me one Bengali who made his fortune trading opium. Just one. Since you've brought up the Bengalis here.
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Dwarkanath Tagore

How the East India Company, and some bad luck, stymied Dwarkanath Tagore’s business ventures

Don't blame us for British prejudices.

The truth is that were the tables turned, the Ambani's and Adanis, the Birlas the Mahindra's the Bajaj's the Murugappas would have been all over the same trade in a flash.

Cheers, Doc
 
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vsdoc said:
Dwarkanath Tagore

How the East India Company, and some bad luck, stymied Dwarkanath Tagore’s business ventures

Don't blame us for British prejudices.

The truth is that were the tables turned, the Ambani's and Adanis would have been all over the same trade in a flash.

Cheers, Doc
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Did you even read the article Dickraa? His ships were used to transport opium. He wasn't involved in the trade. I repeat my charges - the only communities involved were the Jews, Parsis, and the Brits. You'd get a nice little overview of why even if there were the Adanis or Ambanis who were willing to break caste taboos, the Brots would have none of it. Your minority status helped you and you in turn helped the British. As I've remarked earlier, you knew which side of the bread is buttered. From ditching the Gujjjus for the Marathas and the Marathas for the Brits. I can see the pattern quite clearly.


For What Profits A Man If He Gains The Whole World But Loses His Own Soul
 
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Did you even read the article Dickraa? His ships were used to transport opium. He wasn't involved in the trade. I repeat my charges - the only communities involved were the Jews, Parsis, and the Brits. You'd get a nice little overview of why even if there were the Adanis or Ambanis who were willing to break caste taboos, the Brots would have none of it. Your minority status helped you and you in turn helped the British. As I've remarked earlier, you knew which side of the bread is buttered. From ditching the Gujjjus for the Marathas and the Marathas for the Brits. I can see the pattern quite clearly.


For What Profits A Man If He Gains The Whole World But Loses His Own Soul
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Yesu read the piece, and many others.

Fact if the matter, which you are free to dispute, is that the Brits controlled Bengal and were very strong and organised there.

Whereas in Bombay they played second fiddle to the Parsis. And were comfortable with that arrangement.

Tagore and many like him were either in the wrong place at the right time. Or simply not good enough or organised and connected enough.

Same story with the HINDU gujuratis and marwaris and kutchis.

A big lol to your caste taboos line.

Smaller than a fig leaf. Revealing way too much and hiding little.

Cheers, Doc
 
vsdoc said:
Yesu read the piece, and many others.

Fact if the matter, which you are free to dispute, is that the Brits controlled Bengal and were very strong and organised there.

Whereas in Bombay they played second fiddle to the Parsis. And were comfortable with that arrangement.

Tagore and many like him were either in the wrong place at the right time. Or simply not good enough or organised and connected enough.

Same story with the HINDU gujuratis and marwaris and kutchis.

A big lol to your caste taboos line.

Smaller than a fig leaf. Revealing way too much and hiding little.

Cheers, Doc
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Parsis controlled Bombay and the British played second fiddle to them in the 19th century just after the conclusion of the third Anglo Maratha war?!? Why didn't they fight you then? Where do you get your news from? Parziana or Mumbai Samaachar? And you ask us to read from non sanghi sources.

Anyway, one of a dear friend of mine - a, Parsi once disclosed in a moment of candour that the real reason why the Parsis are dying out is because they indulged in this accused trade. Not everyone sleeps well at night, you see. There are still some who are truly God fearing.
 
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Parsis controlled Bombay and the British played second fiddle to them in the 19th century just after the conclusion of the third Anglo Maratha war?!? Why didn't they fight you then? Where do you get your news from? Parziana or Mumbai Samaachar? And you ask us to read from non sanghi sources.

Anyway, one of a dear friend of mine - a, Parsi once disclosed in a moment of candour that the real reason why the Parsis are dying out is because they indulged in this accused trade. Not everyone sleeps well at night, you see. There are still some who are truly God fearing.
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Accursed trade? Man you have really weird "Parsi" friends.

God fearing sexual triangles.

I see zero difference in narcotics like haoma and soma and charas and afeem.

And if I was a bawa in those days, I'd have been an apex dug lord, and opened new markets in America.

Cheers, Doc
 
vsdoc said:
Accursed trade? Man you have really weird "Parsi" friends.

I see zero difference in narcotics like haoma and soma and charas and afeem.

Cheers, Doc
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Please go to HK right now and make that declaration. If you survive, I'd quit this forum. Word of a gentleman.
 
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Please go to HK right now and make that declaration. If you survive, I'd quit this forum. Word of a gentleman.
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Why should I.

The Chinese were already hooked long before the opium wars.

We were simply providing a commodity to service a growing demand.

And the Brits were fighting a trade war and righting a lopsided balance of payment.

It was an opportunity for us and we took it. And pumped ALL of that money into India.

And built modern India's economic capital out of nothing.

You are fixated on the Chinese.

While they have long since moved ahead.

And an India now in your hands is still languishing.

Back to your favorite millennial pastime.

Killing each other and pulling down the crab that tries to crawl up.

Do something about that first.

These are your people and need your sympathy first.

Cheers, Doc
 
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Parsis controlled Bombay and the British played second fiddle to them in the 19th century just after the conclusion of the third Anglo Maratha war?!? Why didn't they fight you then? Where do you get your news from? Parziana or Mumbai Samaachar? And you ask us to read from non sanghi sources.

Anyway, one of a dear friend of mine - a, Parsi once disclosed in a moment of candour that the real reason why the Parsis are dying out is because they indulged in this accused trade. Not everyone sleeps well at night, you see. There are still some who are truly God fearing.
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Parsiana.

Cheers, Doc
 
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You need to seriously develop a sense of humour. All shades of it.Particularly black humour.

You can do so by coming to Bombay or conversing extensively with @vsdoc
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I was about to suggest the same to the newbie ... that it took time to appreciate the humor in a Hindu trying to take a bawas chaddi.

Across years.

Especially when he had so many close "Parsi" friends in Grant road, he shared a good whiskey with from time to time.

Cheers, Doc
 
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vsdoc said:
@_Anonymous_

Seeing Through the Smoke: Exploring the Opium Trade

Ain joi le anna. Saalo napak su bolech.

Khodai maara! Respectable Hindu opium traders.

Toba toba.

Cheers, Doc
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So, dickraa. After googling for hours at end all you could come up with is something which I declared here quite early in our conversations. That next to the Brits, the big boys in the trade were the Parsis - the Jeejebhoys, the Tatas, the Readymoneys, the Petits, the Chenoys, etc. & the Jews.The rest were mere cogs in the wheel. The small frys.
Be they the Sarafs, the Jains or the ubiquitous Marwaris - all money lenders to the peasants who sold the produce for a tiny profit to the Dickraas who made a killing. In order to expiate for their grave sins they built all those public buildings in Bombay, Pune, etc - at first exclusively for the Parsis and later extended those benefits to the natives. Except for a few good souls like Dadabhai Naoroji, all the other dickraas didn't have any qualms about sucking up to the Brits or enjoying their ill gotten gains. They always could point out to their philanthropy to cover their sins.
 
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So, dickraa. After googling for hours at end all you could come up with is something which I declared here quite early in our conversations. That next to the Brits, the big boys in the trade were the Parsis - the Jeejebhoys, the Tatas, the Readymoneys, the Petits, the Chenoys, etc. & the Jews.The rest were mere cogs in the wheel. The small frys.
Be they the Sarafs, the Jains or the ubiquitous Marwaris - all money lenders to the peasants who sold the produce for a tiny profit to the Dickraas who made a killing. In order to expiate for their grave sins they built all those public buildings in Bombay, Pune, etc - at first exclusively for the Parsis and later extended those benefits to the natives. Except for a few good souls like Dadabhai Naoroji, all the other dickraas didn't have any qualms about sucking up to the Brits or enjoying their ill gotten gains. They always could point out to their philanthropy to cover their sins.
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And that's exactly the common thread of your angst.

That the Hindus were unable to crack the global trade and profit from it to the extent the Parsis could and did.

Thanks for the confirmation.

Cheers, Doc
 
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