India - Pakistan Standoff 2019

[Hellfire]

Journalist s in twitter are confirming a UAV is shot down by Su 30..


And i just tweeted my friend its Drop tank.

The photograph is of drop tank. We become a joke when we do not match the two.

He is no troll. He was in PN in 90's most likely. He tried to bust Raj47 and got blocked earlier.

The Wg Cdr is trolling the PA. You did not get the joke

I think there is a confusion. These are 2 separate incidents. The drone which has been shot down apparently landed in MW Toba, not Fort Abbas.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1102558870059151360

IAF jets shoot down Pakistani drone that crossed border in Rajasthan

There are two different incidents? If so, then the picture as shown is of drop tanks and not of drone.

Don't tell me she interpreted as "Tanks that are dropped from airplane".....

Luckily no.

If our HUMINT was destroyed how did IA manage to kill all the top commanders in the valley ? the pulwama mastermind killed within 100 hours too ??. And what exactly we revealed to give away our HUMINT in kashmir??

Did I say destroyed? Or targeted?

It is simple, you have information of target being at a certain place and only 4 know of the information, how difficult is it to know who leaked the information?

App ka bhai kidar hai? @Falcon

Got 'fired'

 

[Kane]

There are two different incidents? If so, then the picture as shown is of drop tanks and not of drone.

Unfortunately, as usual, the media is using whatever they have to validate their claim. Whts surprising is that renowned defence journos have also used this pic

 

[safriz]

Why many Indian news channels have been calling this crash near Badgam a mig-21 crash?
The rotor blades are visible and tail number start with ZP which is used by Mi-17 of IAF.

 

[Hellfire]

View attachment 4685Why many Indian news channels have been calling this crash near Badgam a mig-21 crash?
The rotor blades are visible and tail number start with ZP which is used by Mi-17 of IAF.

Because most can not stop from re-tweeting/commenting before verifying.

That is why here we are blowing holes in the tweets and comments of fanboys and fangirls on both sides.

 

[Sathya]

View attachment 4685Why many Indian news channels have been calling this crash near Badgam a mig-21 crash?
The rotor blades are visible and tail number start with ZP which is used by Mi-17 of IAF.

Any accidents in Pak side during this high intensity flying ?

 

[Hellfire]

Unfortunately, as usual, the media is using whatever they have to validate their claim. Whts surprising is that renowned defence journos have also used this pic

Problem is the pressure to appear to be 'in the know' and 'first to break'

RIP logic.

If you notice, on this thread, we all have taken pains to blow holes in the 'information' out there which is clearly spurious. Since none of us is getting paid for this and this is an activity undertaken by us merely because we love to follow defence news, we take our time and do not assume a deadline

That makes it possible for us to examine and deal with the issues one by one.

Any accidents in Pak side during this high intensity flying ?

Negative.

Has there been any official confirmation of UAV being shot down? Or our media merely shooting off?

 

[Hellfire]

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Pakistani commercial flight - still scared to get close to border - LOL

this is 1:56 PM EST March 4 2019.

Its not scared, it is no fly zone by PAF

https://twitter.com/x/status/1102579474887921665

Not much of a difference. The average soldier is from that society which also represents the cadre these groups have. Only the color of uniform will change, the command and control was always the same.

Modi is Not in Mood of De-escalation It seems it Will get fierce be ready for something big in Modi second term

https://twitter.com/x/status/1102578528770392069

Notice the hardening and anger in his face and eyes when he says 'garh mein ghuske maarenge'.

It flashed for a moment and then the politician's face was back. He is angry indeed.

 

[nair]

Seems like India has started to share more with Israel than just the first

Old news..... very old I say....

 

[Hellfire]

Check this out from 4:45 onwards. Modi is trolling the Pakistanis. He says, "ek ho jaye to hum sote nahi hain, doosre ke liye tyari karte hain..."

No wonder we have such a large population, people literally took that to their heart!

Modi was being very impatient and direct today, felt good to see direct responses, reassuring but should not be impatient. Let the forces take whatever time they need.

Meanwhile congress is digging her grave so deep in UP that even a close association of SP, BSP with congress is going to prove very, very costly for Mahagathbandhan. If they really want to stay relevant they should actually assault Rahul physically to look serious otherwise he will take them down with him.

Rahul Gandhi will be given Bharat Ratna by PM Modi one day. He would have single handedly decimated Congress, which no one could do in all these years, not even PM Modi.

On topic, Rajasthan is with PM Modi, so is MP, and so is UP. No one is bothered about the State politics on this one.

 

[Hellfire]

Pls find the below link for supporting news. There was another pilot indeed who was twice involved in Sure 30MKi crash.

Human factor led to Su-30 MKI crash, claims manufacturer

I noted that I was not aware of this one. Not doubting.

When I am not aware, I simply say it. Rather than act like our Journos and 'experts' who usually peddle nonsense to cover a gaffe

I learn a lot here, all the time.

 

[nair]

Election commission confirmed that the dates would be announced on 9th.... IAF says this Is an ongoing operation.....Imagine the pain of those who are tasked to analyse the signals in Pakistan...... Bohuth kadin hein unki kaam

 

[Hellfire]

Tweets 6 & 7 address all the skepticism about visible damage (i.e. bodies, damaged buildings etc). Pair this with the NTRO intel about 300 mobile connections; and I think we have good reason to believe some of the higher projected death tolls.

'A blast overpressure' .. damn, he has nailed it.

How the hell does a bomb work otherwise? The primary effects are blast over pressure!!!! Fragments, thermal effects are all secondary!

 

[Hellfire]

Election commission confirmed that the dates would be announced on 9th.... IAF says this Is an ongoing operation.....Imagine the pain of those who are tasked to analyse the signals in Pakistan...... Bohuth kadin hein unki kaam

And our stealth missiles, "Kadi Ninda-NG" and "Muh Tod Jawab" are also quiet, which indeed points to the fact that operations are ongoing.

 

[nair]

Btw there is a agitation by Mehbooba mufti..... For banning the organisation... Probably 1 or 2 headlines..... Notuing beyond that..... Btw lot of OGW are now behind the bars..... No headlines. ..

 

[nair]

And our stealth missiles, "Kadi Ninda-NG" and "Muh Tod Jawab" are also quiet, which indeed points to the fact that operations are ongoing.

Was watching news... suddenly saw Kadi ninda inaugurating something.... My exact thought was the same.... Where is this guy these days

 

[Bharath]

Btw there is a agitation by Mehbooba mufti..... For banning the organisation... Probably 1 or 2 headlines..... Notuing beyond that..... Btw lot of OGW are now behind the bars..... No headlines. ..

I suggested this a few pages back - in the cloak of these "on-going operations", the "swachh bharath abhyan" going on in Kashmir got less Media coverage. Barkha, Sagarika etc have so many things to take care of that they are unable to cover everything.

 

[Shaktimaan]

Government issues order to seize assets of all banned outfits under UN sanctions regime - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
Government issues order to seize assets of all banned outfits under UN sanctions regime

 

[nair]

While everyone is talking about balakot..... Why no news on chakoti Muzafarabad......

They are not too far btw...

 

[Hellfire]

Btw there is a agitation by Mehbooba mufti..... For banning the organisation... Probably 1 or 2 headlines..... Notuing beyond that..... Btw lot of OGW are now behind the bars..... No headlines. ..

Recall two years back in the other place we had touched upon how JeI needs to be banned as it was promoting violence in the region in garb of 'social welfare'?

When we fail to act against our own so called 'social welfare' organizations who promote violence in garb of welfare, then how can we expect the Pakistanis to act against JeM, which promotes violence against us while positioning itself as a welfare organization within their own country?

When Pakistan says look within, they are not wrong. We need to take down the internal threats faster than what we need to do with those outside our territories.

 

[_Anonymous_]

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