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I was just going to post it. Multiple AMRAAM launches and except for the one which hit Wg. Cdr Abhi, all were defeated. Even in that we are not sure if he was hit by ground fire or AMRAAM. So the jammers on Su-30MKI did their job of not only protecting the platform but other platforms in the formation also. This is what an escort jammer can do. Protect the whole force.

yes, there are news reports that AMRAAMs were fired at Sukois and they dodged them. Apparently the Phalcons can give proof. why didn't they release these details before? Were they waiting for next century for this to come out?
 
yes, there are news reports that AMRAAMs were fired at Sukois and they dodged them. Apparently the Phalcons can give proof. why didn't they release these details before? Were they waiting for next century for this to come out?
The data has been shared with US. Probably India does not want to give a bloody nose to USAF by declaring that all their AMRAAMs were decieved by SU-30MKIs. and rub it in with proof.
 
INS Kalvari, which you are claiming now, was commissioned in Dec 2017 buddy.
No point telling him this. Both the videos, one from 2016 and the latest one have exactly same words with exactly same font with just one change that the new video has darker letters. AND they think that we Indians are fools like them and got educated in a madarsa which teaches that earth is flat and earthquakes are caused by women driving cars.
 
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The data has been shared with US. Probably India does not want to give a bloody nose to USAF by declaring that all their AMRAAMs were decieved by SU-30MKIs. and rub it in with proof.

why not with the INDIAN PEOPLE?
-Why didn't th FS confirm that 24 jets were approaching India?
-Why didn't he say that multiple AMRAAMs were fired at us and the Su 30 dodged them?
-Why didn't he say that a Phalcon was in the air and that entire scene was tracked by them?

What kind of national security is lost by saying any of the above? None of these come from humint inside Pak. Nothing is compromised. Why the stupid silence?
 
why not with the INDIAN PEOPLE?
-Why didn't th FS confirm that 24 jets were approaching India?
-Why didn't he say that multiple AMRAAMs were fired at us and the Su 30 dodged them?
-Why didn't he say that a Phalcon was in the air and that entire scene was tracked by them?

What kind of national security is lost by saying any of the above? None of these come from humint inside Pak. Nothing is compromised. Why the stupid silence?
This statement by IAF IS sharing the info with Indians. What else do you want know? The frequency of the seeker head of AMRAAM or its scan pattern or its seeker opening range and even if IAF shares it with you, what will you or 99.9999999% Indians make out of it. OR for that matter even the data about the air intercept radar of F-16s.
 
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The data has been shared with US. Probably India does not want to give a bloody nose to USAF by declaring that all their AMRAAMs were decieved by SU-30MKIs. and rub it in with proof.

That's not the reason Sir, we should tell everything in real time to his honorable, doesn't matter if he understand or not, if they are even relevant or not, or even if it's a video game stream it doesn't matter because some commie drilled a stupid notion in their head that democracy entitled them to know EVERYTHING, be it military secrets, strategy or confidential data or facts.

Everything must be told in real time to his honour otherwise India is joke, India is becoming a laughing stock, India's integrity is at stake and what not, just because you failed your only job not apprising "Indian public" (fancy word used as a cover to hide the absurd sense of entitlement).
 
He will now be commissioned into Pakistan Army :D




What is your babaji the soothsayer saying?

Now I am glad people have begun to see what we are actually doing with them :D




Hum bolein to .... ignore, woh bolein to ;)

Bhai ko pata hi nahi tha ki source video ka kahaan hai!

Said 'if it is true...' in his initial post!! True, my foot! Pointed it to him in twitter ..... :D
I believe u more than babaji😁
 
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Aman ki Asha ;)
I would say,
AMAN KA TAMASHA.

Every time Pa-kis are hit hard they activate these Tamasha gangs....😠
However this won't work now...😉
It's a lull before storm....☺
Pa-kis are tensed with suspense, they don't know what to do. Keep troops mobilized, carry out CAP, keep Navy active all of which is bleeding economy further or down the guards and go to barracks. Add to that trolling by PM Modi mentioning Karachi and even bababanaras. They are having nail biting thrilling experience....😁😁😁😂😂
 
That's not the reason Sir, we should tell everything in real time to his honorable, doesn't matter if he understand or not, if they are even relevant or not, or even if it's a video game stream it doesn't matter because some commie drilled a stupid notion in their head that democracy entitled them to know EVERYTHING, be it military secrets, strategy or confidential data or facts.

Everything must be told in real time to his honour otherwise India is joke, India is becoming a laughing stock, India's integrity is at stake and what not, just because you failed your only job not apprising "Indian public" (fancy word used as a cover to hide the absurd sense of entitlement).
If I was commanding a squadron which used it finest weapons in combat only to be defeated by the enemy, I will be a very worried person. Even more so when my best mount gets defeated by a very old pony.
 
This statement by IAF IS sharing the info with Indians. What else do you want know? The frequency of the seeker head of AMRAAM or its scan pattern or its seeker opening range and even if IAF shares it with you, what will you or 99.9999999% Indians make out of it. OR for that matter even the data about the air intercept radar of F-16s.

There is a helluva lot of difference between giving me seekers data and confirming 24 jets came.
 
There is a helluva lot of difference between giving me seekers data and confirming 24 jets came.
Since both you & I are lay people, we ought to rely on common sense ( not your strong point) & good faith ( pun unintended but also not your strong point) when you seek to challenge professionals who've been in / simulated such situations multiple times in their Long & illustrious career apart from having access to inside sources which we lack.

Forget them for a moment and let's rely on common sense. Consider yourself to be the AVM in charge of the eastern borders in the PAF and you're tasked with responding to the aggression by the IAF on the 26 th. You look around to see what do you have - a plethora of obselete jets - Mirage 3 & Mirage -5, the JF-17 & the pride of your forces the F-16.

What're you up against? The Mirage 2k, MiG 29, MiG 21 & the eagle of the skies - the supreme predator Su 30 MKI.

What do you do, if you want to break through their defences? Firstly, you've to rely a lot on deception given the superior EW abilities of the MKI apart from the other FA in the inventory of the IAF , which by any yardstick are superior in capabilities and equipment than what you possess apart from the nos.

Which means for the 4-6 jets you plan to penetrate the defences of the Indians and bomb the targets , you need at least twice or thrice the no to serve as a diversion , if you've to get the task accomplished. I've given you merely the bare bones of the planning. I've not factored in AEW, AWACS, Ground air defences, terrain, etc. All these would have their own role to play when deciding the combination and no of FA you would need to mount an assault. Now you do the math.
 
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