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That fort is just 11km in Indian territory and for that you idiots left Lahore undefended, we really wish you stay in that same mentality, gain desert for provincial capital and 2nd major city.



are you real? are you seriously that delusional, even Pakistanis are not that delusional, that ghetto living in UK made you like that? your wet dream was is and always will be Kashmir and for that we will make you eat grass for real if you are not already eating. Now go back to those veterans and ask again how could we possibly stop water in '65 when we still (50yr later) dont have infra to stop our own share of water running into Pakistan. A little, tiny application of brain wont kill you but then again you are Pakistani, finding brain in one of you will be a miracle.

I'm honestly still trying to wrap my head around his Lahori Logic, hence my simple gif response...
 
I'm honestly still trying to wrap my head around his Lahori Logic, hence my simple gif response...
The problem with Pakistani is they are more show and buzz but they don't bother about the real goals. Thats why "honor", "Mard-e-Blah-Blah" gains so much currency in Pakistan --I kid you not, these idiots formulated their entire plan around supposition that India will cower with few well placed attacks from Pakistan. This kind of thinking has been the reason that why with ALL the best weapons and blind support of US they could not gain a single town from India in '65. ALL they have to show for their MASSIVE campaign are some pictures of some captured forts --with no importance--, some aircrafts which they shot down and a cock and bull story of capturing river share (LOL).

'65 was their finest hour and they couldn't even muster a single town in gain. It has been a continuous downhill story from there on.
 
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Why is Pakistani air space still closed? Anyone?

They are acting like a little girl who saw a spider.

Is Pakistan really so out of the world economy that it doesn’t cost them anything to cut off the country this long?

What’s going on guys?
Nothing.... 1 statement from Air chief..... "I cannot comment on a ongoing operation"
 
Actually we weren't talking about Azhar at all, sir. I would recommend reading post #4584 and #4623 to get the whole picture.:)

Attaching the #4584 & #4623 so mentioned
Agreed.
Really Sir ? How come media, both foreign and domestic(yes, I consider them laypersons) never seem to take our side in trade disputes with US ?
Are there such countries at all ? That too in the P5 ? Which countries and what are their motivations ?
Agreed.
I believe there is a political momentum building behind it. I am not saying its good or bad, its just that when precedents are set its hard to undo them without repercussions. Wouldn't you agree, sir ?

US and India trade dispute is small matter to begin with. I've seen plenty take "India's" side on it too. It just depends where you go for the news/perspective.
Basically the P3 (US, UK, France) patience is wearing thin over time with the P2 (China and Russia). This should be recognised and worked upon relevantly by other aspiring powers that want better representation.

Hence I will stick to what I said earlier
"Wrong reading & analysis posted above
In the matter in question - its P4 Vs China
Russia voted with rest of P3 on Masood Azhar, & have consistently done so even in past. Cant see the curtain or is it cataract, thats prevailing"

It should never have been P3 in first case - lets examine UN security council reforms - Russia has supported India & have consistently supported India to become UN permanent member in past.
 
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Attaching the #4584 & #4623 so mentioned




Hence I will stick to what I said earlier
"Wrong reading & analysis posted above
In the matter in question - its P4 Vs China
Russia voted with rest of P3 on Masood Azhar, & have consistently done so even in past. Cant see the curtain or is it cataract, thats prevailing"

It should never have been P3 in first case - lets examine UN security council reforms - Russia has supported India & have consistently supported India to become UN permanent member in past.
What @Nilgiri said was India supporting elements within the UN that want to break the UN, stating that countries with in the P5 could want that too. When I inquired as to which countries in P5 would want that(break up of UN that is) and why, @Nilgiri responded with the tensions between P3 and the P2(nothing to do with us, just tensions within themselves). That's when I mentioned losing Russia would be harmful for us.

You see the whole debate had nothing to do with Azhar, Russia's consistent support for us or security council reforms. I am not sure why you brought those in. It was just our personal take on tensions between the P5 and hypothesis of what might happen in the future. Good day sir:)
 
I dont know what you Indians were told, but we grew up with 1965 war veterans. The main reason was same as today. Indian attempts of blocking Pakistan's water. Thats why we went to war

Since the 1965 war was based on a big lie and was presented to the nation a great victory, the Army came to believe its own fiction and has used since, Ayub as its role model and therefore has continued to fight unwanted wars — the 1971 war and the Kargil fiasco in 1999.
 
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India, Pakistan threatened to unleash missiles at each other: sources | Reuters

Reuters quality is becoming junk.

Indian officials- No response.
Pakistani officials- No response.
US officials- No response.
Chinese officials- No response.

But some anonymous Pakistani minister said it via sources makes it all true! They can as well pick up conspiracy theories from Pakistani ghettos of UK.
UK media houses have been in a propaganda war with India for decades now & there sources & stories make way in rest of western media as opinion makers. So no surprise, their reporting more attuned to ISI/pakistan in matters pertaining India.
 
Pakistani MOD explicitly mentioned F-16 on the ready against India.
Pakistan will use all assets in the face of Indian aggression including F-16, the spokesperson said.

You are barred from using f 16. You are not supposed to have f-16. America gifted you when you went with begging bowl.
 
I like the Indian approach here: Ask for impossible, delay, dilute and then destroy the entire narrative.

Once elections are done, this so called "Googly" will be a No-Ball from Imran. The fun thing will be a cover-drive shot from India, all in air. May be Pakistan will still catch it, rejoice shortly before realising No-Ball and looking down to see a feet outside the boundary.

:ROFLMAO::LOL::ROFLMAO:
I still don't get it. What is our end goal here ? What exactly are we going to achieve by this ?
 
The goal is to deny Pakistan an opportunity to influence Punjab and Sikhs. Without incurring a political cost.
Ok. But how does Pakistanis asking for money from pilgrims help us. All I see is them looking for a way to get some money from us and later using that against us. How does it benefit us except for rhetorical gains ?
 
Ok. But how does Pakistanis asking for money from pilgrims help us. All I see is them looking for a way to get some money from us and later using that against us. How does it benefit us except for rhetorical gains ?
The goal is to push this discussion till the elections are over. Once it is done, more conditions and finally crush it once people have forgotten about it.
 
What @Nilgiri said was India supporting elements within the UN that want to break the UN, stating that countries with in the P5 could want that too. When I inquired as to which countries in P5 would want that(break up of UN that is) and why, @Nilgiri responded with the tensions between P3 and the P2(nothing to do with us, just tensions within themselves). That's when I mentioned losing Russia would be harmful for us.

You see the whole debate had nothing to do with Azhar, Russia's consistent support for us or security council reforms. I am not sure why you brought those in. It was just our personal take on tensions between the P5 and hypothesis of what might happen in the future. Good day sir:)
I am not even going to comment on how delusional it be for for anyone is seriously discussing to exclude Russia/China in UN, let alone expel them. Carry on, I do sometimes come here for humor :p
 
I am not even going to comment on how delusional it be for for anyone is seriously discussing to exclude Russia/China in UN, let alone expel them. Carry on, I do sometimes come here for humor :p

The only real way for that will be dissolution of UNSC and re-appointment of UNSC. I don't see it ever happening.
May be if and when UN goes the way of League of Nations...
 
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I am not even going to comment on how delusional it be for for anyone is seriously discussing to exclude Russia/China in UN, let alone expel them.
I did say it was merely a hypothesis. No reason to take it seriously. Besides isn't that what everybody here is doing. Copy pasting news articles,tweets etc. and presenting their hypothesis. Surely it was outlandish, no doubt. But nobody here is an actual decision maker so everything we say is in a way outlandish, isn't it ?
Carry on, I do sometimes come here for humor :p
I am glad that I could humor you, sir. After all, laughter as they say is the best medicine.:D
 
And some American 100% believe in the hypothesis, that the earth is flat. Ofcourse I wont take it seriously, only laugh at the people discussing :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
And some American 100% believe in the hypothesis, that the earth is flat. Ofcourse I wont take it seriously, only laugh at the people discussing:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Some ? I believe its a sizable population. But can we really be any better though ? We have a sizable part of our population that would point to a star in the night sky and say "Woh dekho Dadaji"
P.S. Mods we went seriously off topic. Couldn't help it.:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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