OK Pakistani's has the War Which Doesn't Even Escalated Yet
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Now Start a new Thread How India Lost its first conventional War after 1947 And how Three Tri services Chiefs Should Resign For the Amateur Amusement Of fanboys
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Any how it's a gone over case, India has to prepare itself for WHAT NEXT. The retaliation is due.
Bangladesh loss was instrumental in moving them to Sub-Conventional warfare. They lie so good that they start believing it themselves. They pull off such shenanigans because they have invested in such tactics historically, we haven't. Some reorganization is underway to counter that, but that is not the issue. Issue is Sub Conventional warfare, and no matter how much punishment they take, no matter the humiliation, Their Singular agenda is to keep fighting India at any an all costs. It is the mindset of Pakistan, and the army through its system has ensured that it continues to who ever becomes the General. Gen. Kiyani, Gen. Raheel or Gen. Bajwa, it is the intititution of Pak army that threatens us, and it doesn't operate in a vacuum, hence by extension the existence of Pakistan.
There's no retaliation due. As of now this episode is behind us, the chapter closed and de escalation followed. Till the next such episode, where we shall take off from where we left. What we are seeing now is a prolonged show of shadow boxing.
Ok by your logic, we have a bigger force did we take PoJK ? what stops us from 'taking it' ?
PRC's role will be only diplomatic support, and it will bolster Pakistan's Sub Conventional warfare. Chinese have willing pet which intends to bite us and it will support it no matter what. China is the adversary that we need to worry about, and Pakistan is it's instrument, that allows it plausible deniability. We didn't even name China in our Diplomatic releases after the UN block on Masood Azhar. We can take on Pak but what we are facing is Sino-Pak.
Never are goal india always happy for status quo that are policy since ABJ and Musharraf talks
You Expecting Chinese to support us While We are holding there Biggest enemy in India
Diplomacy is A policy of give & take We maintained our aggressive approach since Nehruvian times
Did China Stopped Motion for Hafiz saeed ??? Did it affected his activities
It doesn't prove anything at all, the image is clear and to my understanding it is the same R73 which has been displayed along with R77 in previous photo. Where is the second R73?
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Don't fool around. Can you prove its not the only one displayed by Pak?
Hit arrest caught the attention of India media and propelled govt to shift it's attention from Masood to getting back the private Ryan, fearing they would kill him like Capt Sourbh Kaliya and Ajay Ahuja. In our own country Pakistan was being applaud this led to the international intervention.
Even this could be countered if government had announced that it was due to missile threat which Pakistan feared, but from day 1 , our government is mum.
If our ROE is implemented our pilot should have been dismissed for disobeying a direct order, loss of military equipment through carelessness and attempting to create conditions wherein the nation was about to be pushed into a war. Their task, as delegated by the Political Leadership of the country, was to prevent the ingress of the PAF, which they undertook. Till the gentleman, in quest to get a personal kill, crossed the Line of Control, thereby undertaking an aggression against the neighbouring country thereby undermining the diplomatic position of Government of India of the IAF strikes being pre-emptive anti-terror strikes. His biggest crime - getting shot, and after that getting captured. That was a very serious set back to our diplomatic posturing, let there be no doubt of that.
In short, he disobeyed all orders, both issued and implied, of all concerned all along the chain of command.
Very clear!
We have ROEs because they are meant to control conflict escalation. Otherwise, if a bullet is fired and, sans ROE, we retaliate with artillery guns and the other side, in turn, bring in Air Force, what will you be having?
Our ROE was in consonance with the directive given to the Defence Forces of the Indian Union, sworn by the Constitution of India to follow the legal political directive to undertake military operations within the scope as defined by the Government of India, duly elected by the People of India.
Let me know if any of our members here have objection to the said control mechanism. I shall surely enlist their support and overthrow the GoI and appoint myself the dictator.
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My Dear Sir.
Please re-check the last time 04 x GPS guided bombs completely missed their targets? Will surely wait for your revert.
Yes. And no. Not if it compromises my assets.
That the other side wants to know to. Suffice to say, very clear data has been captured.
Let me just say that to enter the area of that platform, one would find it very difficult to do so with the Identity Card of a serving Military Officer. To get on board, I doubt many have been on it. If that is the level of classification, a serious 'need to know' and 'need to see' - then you can very well imagine.
When was the last time you filed an RTI on a military operation/platform's capability?
Let me know how successful you were.
Let us now extend that analogy - of accountability.
When the Army says it has destoryed enemy BOP, did you ask for the proof? When the SF guys got Kirti Chakra, which is associated with a significant financial gain also, have you asked for proof of the same, that the concerned personnel did indeed undertake the said action?
Or did you file an RTI to check how many rounds are expended per kill of enemy of the state? Because 1 bullet in head should kill, and if they are taking 20 bullets and a few grenades to kill 1, your money through taxes, the source of defence allocation and pay of soldier, is being wasted indeed. How about ask for that?
You are right, Armed Forces have accountability - to their own chain of command. Not to the public, not to you not to me.
It had, AFAIK 02 x R77 and 02 x R73 and a centerline Refueling pod. No external jammer on pylon. The integrated SPJ was there.
Sir, they did miss the target because of the CAP deployed by the IAF, that's an official statement. They intruded , we stopped them. Now they have been deploying drones and sending them inside Indian airspace near Rajasthan and we are shooting them down. My point is, even if IAF had raided their Forward posts this would have not given third parties chance to intervene only because Imran Khan is reluctant in returning the POW. My point is we gave them chance to conduct PSYop through our media with the help of POW.
Aggression is not down, IN is all deployed and ready for action, the ball is in our court, Pakistanis are expecting a retaliation. Because time is ticking and Masood Azhar is still out.
This is true. But I guess till elections are over the status quo will be held.
I think no jammer. Only 4 hard point and 4 missiles. what about the drop tanks?
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