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And now this forum is seriously bugging me out .... from my side, be the PDF version 2.

Yeah .. we captured so much territory ... killed 600 blah blah blah
 
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IB exists at three of the districts of the J&K namely Sambha, Kathua and Jammu. Unfortunately for our friends in Pakistan, they signed on the dotted line in Karachi Agreement 1948 and try their damn best to reverse it by calling it a working boundary.
I am aware of it. But they don't follow it so why should we follow it. For them every inch of border of erstwhile state of J&K is their territory. Let us now follow their rules for the game and beat them.
 
Yeah, and that shows we are not scared of India. Never will be.
Argument was that people are implying that Pakistan returned Abhinandan out of fear.. But if we were scared of India we had not launched attack on 6 Indian targets within 15 hours of Indian attack and had not shot down Indian jets and had not paraded the pilot with his bloody nose.
Well, it was a simple calculation, escalation costs more to PA, returning the pilot lowers the probability of escalation. If Pakistan can afford escalation, it is more than welcome to activate more of it's assets in India. It's ripe with civilian and mil targets. Pakistan did not expect, such response from India, Pakistani establishment (along with me) expected kadi ninda and dossiers for Pulwama. Indian response was surprising.
 
Now if you and vstol (assuming he says that IB does not exist in Sambha-Kathua-Jammu divisions of J&K) consider that IB starts in Punjab, then you are exactly doing them a favor. Ask vstol if he subscribes to your interpretation?
My post was very clear. I stated what Pak says about the state of J&K. I do agree we have IB in the sectors mentioned by you but Pakistan does not respect it and that is the reason that they have frequently targeted our forces (BSF) even along the IB in J&K.
 
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And now this forum is seriously bugging me out .... from my side, be the PDF version 2.

Yeah .. we captured so much territory ... killed 600 blah blah blah
I am sort of confused. Vstol jockey is claiming one thing and you are claiming other. I do agree that the claim 'we killed 600 and captured loads of territory'! Is a load of BS.
 
@Falcon, I still maintain my claim of over 600 casulaties for PA (dead & Injured) and capture of crucial tactically advantageous territory in Akhnoor area. I never stated that we have captured the complete dagger area. I even posted the area captured which amounts to the tip of this dagger. Its not a very large area but it is an area of extreme importance.
We can agree to disagree.
 
I am sort of confused. Vstol jockey is claiming one thing and you are claiming other. I do agree that the claim 'we killed 600 and captured loads of territory'! Is a load of BS.
I think this has more to do with a reading of personalities, virtual, in this case. Since you're a newcomer, pls be informed that vstol Jockey is a bit candid & Falcon highly reticent while disclosing info about current military engagements of critical importance.
 
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I think this has more to do with a reading of personalities, virtual, in this case. Since you're a newcomer, pls be informed that vstol Jockey is a bit candid & Falcon highly reticent while disclosing current military engagements of critical importance.
The truth lies somewhere in between but it surely does. 😀
 
I think this has more to do with a reading of personalities, virtual, in this case. Since you're a newcomer, pls be informed that vstol Jockey is a bit candid & Falcon highly reticent while disclosing current military engagements of critical importance.

If we have taken the Dagger, Both IA and PA top Brass are aware of it. Secrecy right now is only to avoid the local population from losing their minds(on both sides).
 
If we have taken the Dagger, Both IA and PA top Brass are aware of it. Secrecy right now is only to avoid the local population from losing their minds(on both sides).
When we took over Siachin, Pakistan did not acknowledge it for over 10 years. They continued to claim that they were fighting Indian Army in the area and pushing IA back. 1999 Kargil happened due to Siachin. They still claim to haveparts of Siachin in their hands but the truth is that they are good about 5kms from it.
 
I know what exactly you meant, but I felt like you were dragging down everybody else who were giving updates from LoC. Which is why I responded. Maybe I misunderstood. A lot is going on up there. Even PM giving hints that the game is up for Pak. So I would not be surprised if people came up with conclusions. Certain people I keep at a distance, certain others I will trust as I have clearly mentioned.

Rest of your post, I don't have much contention with.

Even I will trust @vstol Jockey
 
Yeah, and that shows we are not scared of India. Never will be.
Argument was that people are implying that Pakistan returned Abhinandan out of fear.. But if we were scared of India we had not launched attack on 6 Indian targets within 15 hours of Indian attack and had not shot down Indian jets and had not paraded the pilot with his bloody nose.
Yes pak did return him out of fear. And paf dropped some bomb from within their own territory to avoid any encounter with IAF and didn't even cross LOC, on the other hand Mirages dropped bomb in balakot a pakistani territory, not POK, many kilometers inside your land.

And in your response, an IAF jet of 60s technology engaged your most advanced jet within your own territory and crashed it while going down.

BTW where are those 2 pilot now ?:sneaky:
 
I Corps and II Corps armour moved from depth 02 odd days back completely. It was seen to be moving and photographs/videos of movement posted on Social Media. You can not hide that kind of move by a long shot. And now recollect till when I have been saying that Strike Corps are sleeping, just a few pages back. XXI corps is still sleeping.

I know precisely what is happening in broad terms, and that is why I correct perceptions and ideas. The day things turn seriously hot, you will not find me posting here anymore.

A simple "bye time to move" will be posted by me and you can guess we have gone in big.. that shall be seen a few hours before you hear major news.

TIll then, relax and enjoy the life.

Are these not 'strike' corps. I and II? Troops being moved for exercises from peace time areas? But is that not a bit early?
 
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