India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
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You scared rabbits were firing AMRAAMs from that place. So it becomes the engagement area for F-16s. The three who intruded were challenged by Mig-21s and they turned tail with one of them getting shot down. It was one of the F-16s in that engagemnent area which fired at Abhinandan and shot him down.
Well the area is above Mirpur city.
Never mentioned before in any IAF statement. No videos ever recorded in the area, and is a well populated area where 80% people have businesses in UK.
Also Abhinandan was shot down in Bhimber 30 km away. Not in Mirpur.
Too many discrepancies.
Scared rabbit or not. But that's what ISPR always said. The G
F-16 were never on the front lines and were staying back as second line of defence. The JF-17 were leading the attack and defence.
LOL. You don't need to be an expert to see the discrepancies in IAF claims and the foolish image they released showing a medieval Mig-21 intruding 30km inside Pakistan
Mig-21 was shot down by an AMRAAM fired from about 40kms. Now tell me how far is LOC from Mirpur and Abhinandan was shot inside Indian territory but drifted across the LOC.
JF-17s never came anywhere close to the Migs or the Su-30MKIs.
Janaab area bahut bada hei, kewal mirpur ke upar naheen hei.
Dekh lijiye, kitne area mein rihayish hei aur kitna viraana hei.
Yeah, but the so called radar image shows two Indian jets above Mirpur in the so called engagement area. See yourself.
Only your aircraft have been shown and not Indian. There is no IAF aircraft in the picture. See below the likely engagement sequence. The Mig arrived from Awantipur and the F-16s which had intruded started turning left to run away. At that point Abhinandan got a 60* off bore lock from front quarter with F-16 at 2o'clock position. He fired and shot down the F-16. This what you see in that video of 1.30 posted by @BlackOpsIndia. After that the Mig crosses behind this falling F-16 to turn back towards Indian territory but gets shot down as can be seen by a vapour trail in that video which crosses behind the falling F-16. After that Mig also vanishes. The F-16 falls further up north and the Mig as a result falls to the south of the F-16. Hope this clears your doubts. If you know anyfighter other than from PAF, ask him to decode the radar picture and match it with that video. Let me know if any fighter worth his salt will give anyother interpretation of it.
Take out that ISPR made glass and see the slides as a neutral person.... You will see
... If you think how can I Prove gafoor right and see the slides..... You will see everything you wanted to see....
@safriz, do you know why your guys turned North to run away and not to the south?
In sabka baap baitha tha wahaan. Su-30MKI. They would have gone down their throat straight if they had turned right towards south. So to save their *censored*, they turned left to North and became a target of Abhinandan who in turn became a target for the F-16s located over Mirpur. These four F-16s over Mirpur were shooting off AMRAAMs at SU-30MKIs and covering the tail of the three F-16s which were carrying LGBs and intruded inside India.
In sabka baap baitha tha wahaan. Su-30MKI. They would have gone down their throat straight if they had turned right towards south. So to save their *censored*, they turned left to North and became a target of Abhinandan who in turn became a target for the F-16s located over Mirpur. These four F-16s over Mirpur were shooting off AMRAAMs at SU-30MKIs and covering the tail of the three F-16s which were carrying LGBs and intruded inside India.
The entire zone talks about the engagement as a whole and not the location of the Mig-21, so this includes PAF aircraft also. So it's reasonable to say that some F-16s were over Mirpur.
OK so you don't understand what an engagement area means (given the velocities and ranges in question here). Good job dbling down.
Tell PAF and ISPR to make that their official response
....they likely wont, they are little more intelligent than you are.
For SU-30 we only used BVR and did not need to go close.
Yet no SU-30 could engage any of our jets.
For a Pentagon correspondent, I think this is actually more.
No wonder he couldn't hear anything!
Well then "irrefutable" Evidence shouldn't be that vague. If iaf claims they have all radar signatures then I am sure they must have radar signals of actual engagement. Why show the whole area. Why not narrow down to actual engagement.
However the area shown is too close to Mirpur and visible to everyone in Mirpur. Yet no one upload any video from that area.
All videos were recorded around Bhimber area.
Cut him some slack, will you. He was in the PN. The same guys who sunk a few of their own ships in sheer panic when the IN was having fun in Karachi in 1971.If he was as skilled as he boasts of being , the PN would be a cutting edge fleet today instead of the Coast Guard it's become.OK so you don't understand what an engagement area means (given the velocities and ranges in question here). Good job dbling down.
Tell PAF and ISPR to make that their official response
Bhai, The ROE or the rules of engagement on that day did not allow IAF to engage targets inside Pakistan. So they did not fire at the F-16s circling over Mirpur area. The ROE were changed after that and now IAF is free to target any target anywhere in Pakistan even as pre-emptive measure. That is the reason that your glorious PAF is now not coming anywhere within 80 kms of IAF fighters.
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