India - Pakistan Standoff 2019

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STEPHEN COHEN said:
There should be Some Consistency between Capabilities which are Claimed in Peace Time AND the Capabilities Demonstrated
in a Real War like Situation

Or Else Such Tall Claims should Never be Made in the First place
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Hitting Balakot and two other sites and downing an F-16 with an Mig-21 while fighting outnumbered 3:1 is not enough ? Or do you not believe the official claims of the IAF ? If that is the case, no need to reply to my post any further. Their capabilities are as "tall" as they claim to be. If you don't trust the capabilities of your military, pick up a gun cross the border and do it yourself, forget about training to be a fighter pilot.

If you cannot back them now, you have no right to celebrate when they succeed. When they do succeed in the future, I will troll every one of you b-a-s-t-a-r-d-s... :p
 
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vstol Jockey said:
Indian Army has precisely 34 days from today to straighten the LOC and reach the outskirts of Muzaffarabad. Pakistan will keep quiet as letting world know about this success of Indian Army will directly help Modi. Last phase of polling is on 19th May. IA must complete the job before that. North of Uri bulge, we are very close to IB and we can make a dash there to cut off many Pak formations in Dras/Ladakh area. It will extend their lines of communication and make these formations unsustainable by our local interdiction in the area. PA will be forced to use a very long route to resupply these forces.
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The places shown by red arrows are the points we must look to hit the IB. Muzaffarabad will allow us to get close to Rawalpindi and Islamabad.
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Dear sir, have we taken some land progressively, ever so small in the last couple of weeks. No news on Twitter off late . That’s why the question. Have we stopped since start of first phase of polling
 
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Dear sir, have we taken some land progressively, ever so small in the last couple of weeks. No news on Twitter off late . That’s why the question. Have we stopped since start of first phase of polling
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There is consolidation going on for further operations. We have taken some land across LOC and that has been confirmed by Imran Khan himself when he blamed Israel and India of grabbing land.
 
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Star Wars said:
Hitting Balakot and two other sites and downing an F-16 with an Mig-21 while fighting outnumbered 3:1 is not enough ? Or do you not believe the official claims of the IAF ? If that is the case, no need to reply to my post any further. Their capabilities are as "tall" as they claim to be. If you don't trust the capabilities of your military, pick up a gun cross the border and do it yourself, forget about training to be a fighter pilot.

If you cannot back them now, you have no right to celebrate when they succeed.
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It is IAF which is under Scrutiny
And Whose Performance is being Questioned

Modi can Get Votes by Balakot and
Getting WC Abhinandan released in a Day but IAF cannot escape Questions

Both Army and Navy have done very well to
Put the Enemy under Huge pressure
But IAF has been clearly found wanting

And it was IAF which made the Biggest claim last year of " Shaking the Heavens and Splitting the Earth " during Gagan Shakti
 
Earlier we always had a nice Excuse

No political clearance

This time Politically there was no hindrance
But nobody can deny that it has been 45 days since PAF attacked India

WC Abhinandan put his life on the line
And gave us something to cheer about
 
If IAF was aware of its Shortfalls and Shortcomings , they should have clearly told the Government like it happened in
2008 , 26 /11
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
It is IAF which is under Scrutiny
And Whose Performance is being Questioned
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Questioned by forum members with too much time on their hands. Irrelevant.

STEPHEN COHEN said:
Modi can Get Votes by Balakot and
Getting WC Abhinandan released in a Day but IAF cannot escape Questions
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IAF don't need to, they have inbuilt mechanism. Its a war. People are going to get killed a captured. IAF is honest on their claims. PAF is not. Folks need a grow a spine than cry at every opportunity.

STEPHEN COHEN said:
Both Army and Navy have done very well to
Put the Enemy under Huge pressure
But IAF has been clearly found wanting
And it was IAF which made the Biggest claim last year of " Shaking the Heavens and Splitting the Earth " during Gagan Shakti
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All of that is just your opinion. Which TBH I am no longer interested in changing. There is explanation already for everything you mentioned and as to why IAF did extremely well that day. Go through Bharat rakshak and VSTOL Jockey's post, or the post of that Mirage Pilot.

But some folks can't see straight with that inflated ego of theirs.
 
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Star Wars said:
Hitting Balakot and two other sites and downing an F-16 with an Mig-21 while fighting outnumbered 3:1 is not enough ? Or do you not believe the official claims of the IAF ? If that is the case, no need to reply to my post any further. Their capabilities are as "tall" as they claim to be. If you don't trust the capabilities of your military, pick up a gun cross the border and do it yourself, forget about training to be a fighter pilot.

If you cannot back them now, you have no right to celebrate when they succeed. When they do succeed in the future, I will troll every one of you b-a-s-t-a-r-d-s... :p
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Let me tell you that I am not complaining about 27 Feb and Rules of Engagement as some guys are doing in BR forum

Creating a local and Temporary Superiority is no Big Deal, which PAF did

Even Terrorists are sometimes able to kill our Best Para SF guys

But you cannot stop me from Pointing out that today it is 45 days since we were attacked and we have not settled the score

Army guys are doing a Super Human Job
In Evicting the Pakistanis from their Posts

The Navy has Cornered the PN like a Rat

But IAF is yet to Re Earn the Respect that it has lost
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
Creating a local and Temporary Superiority is no Big Deal
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Its when your facing the enemies best pilots and you are outnumbered 3:1.

STEPHEN COHEN said:
But you cannot stop me from Pointing out that today it is 45 days since we were attacked and we have not settled the score
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On-going operations. It depends on how much you trust the IAF. Until now, every strike has been avenged. Weather Army, Navy or Airforce. If you trust them, you know they will make their move when time is right.


This is one thing I like about Pakistanis, no matter what they have solidly backed their force. Not unlike Indians who question their own military especially during a conflict.
 
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Star Wars said:
Its when your facing the enemies best pilots and you are outnumbered 3:1.



On-going operations. It depends on how much you trust the IAF. Until now, every strike has been avenged. Weather Army, Navy or Airforce. If you trust them, you know they will make their move when time is right.
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Please let me clarify again

I said that what PAF did was no Big deal

Just bait and Ambush , that is it

27 Feb was NOT a failure for IAF
IAF did well with 3: 1 odds

They could have Anticipated Pakistani Cunningness but that is another thing

But NOT avenging 27 Feb
At least till now is a failure
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
But NOT avenging 27 Feb
At least till now is a failure
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They will avenge, they always have. Just wait and watch. Now is not the time. Pak is politically and economically imploding
.They are desperately looking for an overt strike from India to regain the political and social unity. Let our elections get over, let the political situation here stabilize. A lot of things will happen before then and a lot of things will happen after that.
 
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Most probably now ISI would invest their resources into Indian politics with greater momentum. Media , businessmen, banking consultancies are already a part of greater network of ISI in India. It is time for Indian people to understand the gravity of situation what ISI would do as they are failing in Kashmir on tactical proxy operations.

STEPHEN COHEN said:
Baba Banaras Account Suspended
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I knew this was coming. He was using one account to do his psyops. This is not the way. Whatever he claimed he could not show evidence out of that. Yes, if 100-200 bot accounts had made the same statement then it would have worked.

We are still very behind ISI in terms of deception, lies, and diversions.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
Don't worry. The account will be back soon. No SM site can ever ignore the dictates of GOI. We are their biggest market.
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Sir banda pakda gaya to humara koi lena dena nahi ;)
He is gone as he is identity less, fact less and a troll as per the rules :p We all know he was doing deception wrong way.
 
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