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All I see is your conjectures,


I am yet to make an statement of claiming to have any insider info or passing wishful thinking as some facts in bold.

Spice 2000 was already in our armament, we can use it, where & when we want & not claim a friendly country wanted to test a equipment


So we swiftly moved from Spike to Spice.

Better luck answering why GOI/MoD said a friendly country wanted to test a equipment of their on that fateful day.

Produce some credible link where does MoD stated so, I would love to read. In case they have, make some effort to prove its the spice/mystery plane from Israel.

It makes me laugh that India would take risk of that amplitude to test weapons for friendly countries.
 
I find more heat here instead of border ...

That is true , after 27thFeb there have been only CFV and nothing else. Rest of the things which we read on twitter is just psyop. It is not possible that they are firing missiles , shelling the towns with 155mm on large scale , using tanks on eachother , capturing posts and there is no panic.
Jung aise nahi hoti, aur jab hogi toh escalation honey mein time nahi lagega. People will notice the war has began.
 
So we swiftly moved from Spike to Spice.
Spike was discussed earlier till we move to balakot & then after 10 discussions on balakot day event, now you are expressing surprise that its Spice. How original & thankgod you didn't take more time to realize what was been discussed. Much more like selective amnesia again
 
Spike was discussed earlier till we move to balakot & then after 10 discussions on balakot day event, now you are expressing surprise that its Spice. How original & thankgod you didn't take more time to realize what was been discussed. Much more like selective amnesia again

So you could come up with this part only.

Help me find any of my quote to you regarding Spice.

Or do you engage people with discussions you do with someone else? Out of nowhere?

Isn't we started with you claiming its Spike and me saying a probable Nag?
 
ISPR propaganda machinery desperately trying to divert attention. It appears there is a reorganization of Infowar activity by ISPR. They are now trying to use credible sounding names to lead the info war, and bolster their credibility, to be then heavily supported by the troll army to create impressions in SM.

Why do you think there are raids and crack down going on the absconders , political parties, NGO's by the ED. These people were the contacts and middle men who used to deal with NGO's and Foreign intelligence. They used to invest ISI's money in Media and other businesses in India.
 
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So you could come up with this part only.

Help me find any of my quote to you regarding Spice.

Or do you engage people with discussions you do with someone else? Out of nowhere?

Isn't we started with you claiming its Spike and me saying a probable Nag?
Since you have proved you have amnesia & don't follow when we shifted to Balakot - here let me refresh the discussion to assist you.
I wont mind it. Its just contrary to Indian style of working.
like using a slow flying bird on Balakot day, providing video feed of strike, along with a friendly sat
Soothing conjectures.
Why don't you ask @Falcon & @vstol Jockey if anything *Deleted* Censored by MOds I requote "was present in their airspace, which Pakistanis were completely unaware off on the day of Balakot attack" . And then you will find your own misled conjectures.
I dare them to refute my claim.
and so the cookie crumbled with more posts in this subject, till
@Falcon has already posted on this in this very thread, if I'm not mistaken, shortly after the air strikes.
Ek anaar sau beemar. Talk about over analysis. God Forbid if war were to break out, we'd fill in 400 pages in 4 hours. I sincerely hope it doesn't happen for the server hosting this site would break down. For the sake of the poor server, no war I say.
True. But the discussion on now isn't on the armaments used but the fact that there was something loitering in the Pakistani air space when the bombings at Balakote & other areas were undertaken.
Agree, If someone were to revisit the original video showing the attack on Jaba top, when it was presented in news, & follow its speed & slow but sizable rate of turn around the Jaba top, a lot can be made out - about the loitering in Pak airspace which pak was unaware of.
Anything Else the MODs like to censor & why???? misuse of power
Incase if anything has never been discussed, I myself self sensor & revert in cryptic post, & sometimes been accused of having baba effect
 
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@LoneWolfSandeep there is no evidence of the said incident yet and you are fighting over what armament was used to cause it, feels like useless argument, and nobody accused any veteran of being doubtful, you should not make such conclusions lightly. Old members here are together from years and they all respect each other very much, most have met in person so none of them will ever cast any doubt on others motive or reputation.

This argument is going too far and literally producing nothing, this is not the best place to win argument anyhow or settle personal score, you said your piece other person said his, if you agree press agree button or move on. Let's stay on topic.

PS - This post do not require any reply, relax.
 
@LoneWolfSandeep there is no evidence of the said incident yet and you are fighting over what armament was used to cause it, feels like useless argument, and nobody accused any veteran of being doubtful, you should not make such conclusions lightly. Old members here are together from years and they all respect each other very much, most have met in person so none of them will ever cast any doubt on others motive or reputation.

This argument is going too far and literally producing nothing, this is not the best place to win argument anyhow or settle personal score, you said your piece other person said his, if you agree press agree button or move on. Let's stay on topic.

PS - This post do not require any reply, relax.
With all due respect, I myself stated 3 times, lets wait for time & things will come out in open in due time. But was someone else willing to let go.
 
Since you have proved you have amnesia & don't follow when we shifted to Balakot - here let me refresh the discussion to assist you.

Its you who shifted to Balakot and not we.

Fact 1 - No level of writing in bold will make your fantasies comes true.
Fact 2 - You are nobody to know anything classified to a level of what happened at Balakot. You can just guess.
Fact 3 - No one, means no one, including vstol or Falcon claim that they are privy to complete information, they provide their educated opinion plus some info which get leaked to them through network. Even that is unsubstantiated.
Fact 4 - Any statement made, without having complete knowledge, is a conjecture.
Fact 5 - Yours are not even conjectures, but wishful disastrous dreams. Perhaps result of over watching of television/online spy series.
Fact 6 - Cut on the personal remarks if you want to be treated with respect.
 
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Its you who shifted to Balakot and not we.

Fact 1 - No level of writing in bold will make your fantasies comes true.
Fact 2 - You are nobody to know anything classified to a level of what happened at Balakot. You can just guess.
Fact 3 - No one, means no one, including vstol or Falcon claim that they are privy to complete information, they provide their educated opinion plus some info which get leaked to them through network. Even that is unsubstantiated.
Fact 4 - Any statement made, without having complete knowledge, is a conjecture.
Fact 5 - Yours are not even conjectures, but wishful disastrous dreams. Perhaps result of over watching of television/online spy series.
Fact 6 - Cut on the personal remarks if you want to be treated with respect.
@BlackOpsIndia you want to revert, or is someone forcing me to revert again. Your call
 
Alan Warnes is someone who has acted almost like a PAF paid aviation photographer in the past. Perhaps also taken paid assignments for PAF, especially for international exercises. Has been wrong several times before when reporting about IAF. Not a reliable source in any case.

Anyways the wording of that tweet is itself ridiculous, almost a draft statement from PAF and not that of a seasoned journalist. I expect that Statement from ISPR release. No journalist who claims to be neutral will under any circumstance use the wording, "The PAF chief again confirmed..." Not done. Ask any journo, definitely not done.

ISPR propaganda machinery desperately trying to divert attention. It appears there is a reorganization of Infowar activity by ISPR. They are now trying to use credible sounding names to lead the info war, and bolster their credibility, to be then heavily supported by the troll army to create impressions in SM.
Well all these days they had their way... And MoD never bothered to respond to these psy ops or let us call info wars..... Twitter changed the game....
 
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Its you who shifted to Balakot and not we.

Fact 1 - No level of writing in bold will make your fantasies comes true.
Fact 2 - You are nobody to know anything classified to a level of what happened at Balakot. You can just guess.
Fact 3 - No one, means no one, including vstol or Falcon claim that they are privy to complete information, they provide their educated opinion plus some info which get leaked to them through network. Even that is unsubstantiated.
Fact 4 - Any statement made, without having complete knowledge, is a conjecture.
Fact 5 - Yours are not even conjectures, but wishful disastrous dreams. Perhaps result of over watching of television/online spy series.
Fact 6 - Cut on the personal remarks if you want to be treated with respect.
Since its been a only one sided, call for refrain, and someone wants to continue discussion it seems.
Lets see the conjectures, for all to see

I wont mind it. Its just contrary to Indian style of working.
like using a slow flying bird on Balakot day, providing video feed of strike, along with a friendly sat
Soothing conjectures.
Why don't you ask @Falcon & @vstol Jockey if anything *Deleted* Censored by MOds I requote
"was present in their airspace, which Pakistanis were completely unaware off on the day of Balakot attack" . And then you will find your own misled conjectures.
If its a conjecture why was the need to delete part of my post by Mods.??? see who having conjecture, forget about misuse of power, or advancement of argument points by censor, then claiming how we ever came to spice discussion in the first place. lol

And this topic is not the first time discussed too, as was already brought to light by
@Falcon has already posted on this in this very thread, if I'm not mistaken, shortly after the air strikes.
Even the govt released official video on day of strike in infrared showing the missiles hitting on Jaba Top
Agree, If someone were to revisit the original video showing the attack on Jaba top, when it was presented in news, & follow its speed & slow but sizable rate of turn around the Jaba top, a lot can be made out - about the loitering in Pak airspace which pak was unaware of.

So if its me conjecturing, then why censorship?

As far as unpleasantries goes, please your 2 post on Conjecturing started it all, I was merely giving you back in your own kind. These kind of unpleasantries is often given by people, lacking in discussion skills. And I am not the kind of person to turn the other cheek either.
And if you want to continue the discussion so will I, even though I stated 3 times earlier in various words "truth will come out in due time. I suppose, so it be settled then"
 
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