India - Pakistan Standoff 2019

[STEPHEN COHEN]

Oh really? And who was supposed to be Indian ally in that attack over Kahuta? Has any US government ever gone against them? Do you know the word Jew and Rothschild?

Israelis were simply being Foolish

There Air Raid over Iraq did not stop
Iraq' s nuclear programme

Saddam re started it

By the way Americans were Looking for an Excuse to Fcuk Up India since 1971

Their sanctions along with Chinese aggression in 1987 and OIC oil sanctions
Would have collapsed India totally

 

[BlackOpsIndia]

Brother , even I am tired and fed up of your Rants

At least we did something and will do a lot more , Now Wait and watch

Yup and I am tired of bullshit being spread, the lies and more lies.

We did a lot, almost created 4-5 accounts on Twitter to strike Pakistan every other day. Fitting tribute to those dead and if someone asks it's just a rant, don't worry about it, we will kill few more Pakistanis today on Twitter.

 

[vstol Jockey]

There Air Raid over Iraq did not stop
Iraq' s nuclear programme

Saddam re started it

And which all WMDs did US find in two wars with Iraq?

 

[_Anonymous_]

F. Y I - the SU were goading India into attacking Pakistan. This was circa 1982-84. The SU couldn't do it is because the US threatened direct war in case Pakistan was attacked by the SU. IG, for some reason wasn't keen to initiate hostilities & by the time she made up her mind, Operation BS and it's fall out hit home. She was assassinated 6 months later.

Later leaks reveal she had initiated plans for an invasion of Pakistan which was put on the back burner courtesy Operation BS. All your other points are peripheral to the point of being of little importance. We fought the 1971 war when our economy was worse off.

Please check the timelines for Operation Brasstacks & Operation Chequerboard.

See the Fact is that Our Economy was Shitty in Eighties , Because the 70s were a lost decade for Indian economy

And Soviet Economy was also going downhill in the Eighties

Pakistan was a frontline Ally because of Afghan War

When US Announced F 16 sale in 1982
There was Panic in the Country ,

Throughout the Eighties , there was only one worry , that Pakistan will become strong with US weapons and attack us

There was no way we could have Started
A war with Sanctions looming on us

China border became Tense in 1987 , and along with Brasstacks against Pakistan

We were in no position to initiate a conflict

Punjab terrorism problem was ongoing and was a huge problem
Then came 1989 / 90 and Kashmir went up in flames

 

[STEPHEN COHEN]

Yup and I am tired of bullshit being spread, the lies and more lies.

We did a lot, almost created 4-5 accounts on Twitter to strike Pakistan every other day. Fitting tribute to those dead and if someone asks it's just a rant, don't worry about it, we will kill few more Pakistanis today on Twitter.

You are Right , Our Army is playing Cricket
With PA on the Border , and IAF and PAF
Are doing Joint Aerial BALLETS in the Sky

Seeing Such Love and Bonhomie , Imran Khan is feeling threatened , the 2 Nation theory is in danger

And Zaid Hamid is Drafting a Re unification Agreement ,

Rajdhani Express will Run upto Lahore
and Karachi

No Visas required for Pakistanis from now on

Hafiz Sayeed will Lay the foundation for Ram Mandir

Ok , happy now please spare me your BS

 

[STEPHEN COHEN]

F. Y I - the SU were goading India into attacking Pakistan. This was circa 1982-84. The SU couldn't do it is because the US threatened direct war in case Pakistan was attacked by the SU. IG, for some reason wasn't keen to initiate hostilities & by the time she made up her mind, Operation BS and it's fall out hit home. She was assassinated 6 months later.

Later leaks reveal she had initiated plans for an invasion of Pakistan which was put on the back burner courtesy Operation BS. All your other points are peripheral to the point of being of little importance. We fought the 1971 war when our economy was worse off.

Please check the timelines for Operation Brasstacks & Operation Chequerboard.

Till today I have not understood why Soviets
Invaded Afghanistan

That made Pakistan a US ally and it got nukes too , because US needed its help
So it ignored Pak Nuclear program

Soviet invasion of Afghanistan Only helped
Pakistan

 

[STEPHEN COHEN]

And which all WMDs did US find in two wars with Iraq?

Iraq Nuclear programme was indigenous

Pakistani programme was COMPLETELY
Sponsored by China and Financed by Saudi

 

[Jaymax]

Till today I have not understood why Soviets
Invaded Afghanistan

That made Pakistan a US ally and it got nukes too , because US needed its help
So it ignored Pak Nuclear program

Soviet invasion of Afghanistan Only helped
Pakistan

The Soviets had always coveted access to warm water ports in the IOR and oil fields of the gulf. A lot of Soviet oil came from Siberia where weather made oil recovery difficult and also the the oil composition was not suitable. Soviets understood the utility of acquiring persian oil and the advantages if the same could be denied to the west.

 

[Jaymax]

Iraq Nuclear programme was indigenous

Pakistani programme was COMPLETELY
Sponsored by China and Financed by Saudi

The good people working in labs across Europe from whom the Iraqis bought/stole tech, designs, information might disagree.

 

[STEPHEN COHEN]

The Soviets had always coveted access to warm water ports in the IOR and oil fields of the gulf. A lot of Soviet oil came from Siberia where weather made oil recovery difficult and also the the oil composition was not suitable. Soviets understood the utility of acquiring persian oil and the advantages if the same could be denied to the west.

But Soviet Union was a Neighbour of Iran

Why did it need to Go from Afghanistan towards Karachi

The Soviets were trying to Secure their Southern Provinces ie the 5 Central Asian Muslim Republics

But still it was a bad idea which led to Collapse of Soviet Union

 

[Sulla84]

Yup and I am tired of bullshit being spread, the lies and more lies.

We did a lot, almost created 4-5 accounts on Twitter to strike Pakistan every other day. Fitting tribute to those dead and if someone asks it's just a rant, don't worry about it, we will kill few more Pakistanis today on Twitter.

And what did the pakistanis' hit on 27th. Did they cause any deaths or destruction on our side.. Although, I don't approve of modi's chest thumping.. It's still a lot less compared to the chest thumping from Pakistani politicians and armed forces... DG ISPR press conferences looked like a caricature of sunny deol movies..

 

[Jaymax]

But Soviet Union was a Neighbour of Iran

Why did it need to Go from Afghanistan towards Karachi

The Soviets were trying to Secure their Southern Provinces ie the 5 Central Asian Muslim Republics

But still it was a bad idea which led to Collapse of Soviet Union

The Soviet Army was "invited" by the Govt. of Afghanistan. That made it quasi legal in the international arena. US did not have any grounds to build a coalition against the Soviets there. Invading Iran would have still helped US stitch a coalition.

NATO was not willing to go up against the big bad USSR for a country most people had trouble finding on a map.

 

[BlackOpsIndia]

And what did the pakistanis' hit on 27th. Did they cause any deaths or destruction on our side.. Although, I don't approve of modi's chest beating.. It's still a lot less compared to the chest beating from Pakistani politicians and armed forces... DG ISPR press conferences looked like a caricature of sunny deol movies..

We live in India right? We should be concerned with what is happening here, Pakistan is our enemy, they will always do their worst, expecting anything good is foolish from them. We should be happy in our success and worried on our failures. Comparing ourselves with loser Pakistan is not a fair comparison more so when we have another big enemy China in front of us.

Frankly his chest thumping may not have mattered at all if he delivered. You kill 100 of them and keep singing your praises it's all good, you achieved it, full credit. But When you don't do what you claim or let enemy off the hook and still present yourself to be different then it's a problem, it's a lie.

 

[Sulla84]

We live in India right? We should be concerned with what is happening here, Pakistan is our enemy, they will always do their worst, expecting anything good is foolish from them. We should be happy in our success and worried on our failures. Comparing ourselves with loser Pakistan is not a fair comparison more so when we have another big enemy China in front of us.

Frankly his chest thumping may not have mattered at all if he delivered. You kill 100 of them and keep singing your praises it's all good, you achieved it, full credit. But When you don't do what you claim or let enemy off the hook and still present yourself to be different then it's a problem, it's a lie.

It's a little harsh to expect serious escalation from Modi, when the entire nation's internal security mechanism is occupied with elections. We could not let Pakistan to be the reason to postpone our elections..
So, it is a little too early to judge. But if he is true to his word, he will bleed Pakistan for the next five years for trying to pull off this stunt just before elections.. Let's wait and watch..

 

[Paro]

It's a little harsh to expect serious escalation from Modi, when the entire nation's internal security mechanism is occupied with elections. We could not let Pakistan to be the reason to postpone our elections..
So, it is a little too early to judge. But if he is true to his word, he will bleed Pakistan for the next five years for trying to pull off this stunt just before elections.. Let's wait and watch..

We dont need an escalation. Ill we are asking is for a good narrative. Something that is believable. For now we have nothing except a cloud theory and few MS paint radar images. And also a guy with a crybaby face holding a missile outer shell in the media.

 

[Sulla84]

We dont need an escalation. Ill we are asking is for a good narrative. Something that is believable. For now we have nothing except a cloud theory and few MS paint radar images. And also a missile shell with a crybaby face in the media.

I don't know.. My first waypoint for the Pakistan squeeze would be Financial action task force blacklisting Pakistan, because except for India and modi's insistence, neither the US, nor Russia,. China or Saudis want to blacklist them. Remember, for all the trouble that Pakistan has caused the US including having its soldiers killed, the US has put no economic squeeze on pakistan. It has only stopped aid. Only a tenth of sanctions faced by Iran would have completely crippled Pakistan's textile export and remittance driven economy.

If Modi had any real backbone, he would have suspended iranian oil imports only in return for a Pakistani blacklist (although US has hinted Azhar was the trade,.. I have my doubts). Also, India is suddenly getting all chummy with turkey, with Turkish deputy minister of foreign affairs visiting in may, and Turkey's anadolu shipyard picked for the 2.1 BN fleet tanker project.
Turkey’s TAIS picked for Indian Navy fleet support ship design

So, things are taking an interesting turn. If you remember Turkey was the only member to have voted against grey listing Pakistan..

 

[Sulla84]

I don't know.. My first waypoint for the Pakistan squeeze would be Financial action task force blacklisting Pakistan, because except for India and modi's insistence, neither the US, nor Russia,. China or Saudis want to blacklist them. Remember, for all the trouble that Pakistan has caused the US including having its soldiers killed, the US has put no economic squeeze on pakistan. It has only stopped aid. Only a tenth of sanctions faced by Iran would have completely crippled Pakistan's textile export and remittance driven economy.

If Modi had any real backbone, he would have suspended iranian oil imports only in return for a *censored* blacklist of Pakistan(although US has hinted Azhar was the trade,.. I have my doubts). Also, India is suddenly getting all chummy with turkey, with Turkish deputy minister of foreign affairs visiting in may, and Turkey's anadolu shipyard picked for the 2.1 BN fleet tanker project.
Turkey’s TAIS picked for Indian Navy fleet support ship design
Also Jaishankar called Turkish foreign minister yesterday.
So, things are taking an interesting turn. If you remember Turkey was the only member to have voted against grey listing Pakistan..

Between why is F,.....A....T.....F getting censored

 

[Jaymax]

I don't know.. My first waypoint for the Pakistan squeeze would be F ATF blacklisting Pakistan, because except for India and modi's insistence, neither the US, nor Russia,. China or Saudis want to blacklist them. Remember, for all the trouble that Pakistan has caused the US including having its soldiers killed, the US has put no economic squeeze on pakistan. It has only stopped aid. Only a tenth of sanctions faced by Iran would have completely crippled Pakistan's textile export and remittance driven economy.

If Modi had any real backbone, he would have suspended iranian oil imports only in return for a *censored* blacklist (although US has hinted Azhar was the trade,.. I have my doubts). Also, India is suddenly getting all chummy with turkey, with Turkish deputy minister of foreign affairs visiting in may, and Turkey's anadolu shipyard picked for the 2.1 BN fleet tanker project.
Turkey’s TAIS picked for Indian Navy fleet support ship design

So, things are taking an interesting turn. If you remember Turkey was the only member to have voted against grey listing Pakistan..

I am wrong more than half of the time but my read is - India will simply keep the borders hot, not go on the offensive and let Pakistan implode. There will be NO retaliation for Feb 27, any action by the Army will be local and tactical in nature.

GoI is keenly waiting for FATF meet. Once they squeeze Pak of funds they will let its economy go down the drain and let its leaders fight for the pieces.

 

[Sathya]

It is Really strange that People start Nitpicking when SOME BODY does nothing

When Everybody was ASLEEP , there were No complaints

Before Baba appeared, you were literally sitting on Falcons head for evidence and info...

Guess what ll happen if one doesn't believe baba s tweets..

But I believe I need patience to check the veracity of the tweets, how he handled his handle..

Not sure how long it will take to confirm loss of F16.. Or Jf17 in Multan or tarbela or march 5/6..

It not like My being aware of it, is urgent anyway... Will wait for juicy details when it appears.

 

[Sathya]

Btw I lost much of trust in baba s tweet when he jumped to conclude pak behind Sri Lanka bomb blasts...

So I always take it with pinch of salt.
Also in lines of psyc ops.