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You can count the number of mobiles connected to particular mobile tower but you can't segregate simply Jabba top mobile subscribers from others using in that area

What you said is true for normal wireless switching technology. SIGINT and ELINT works in identifying precision source of emission using complex algorithms by factoring in vector movement of source and detector.

Do you know why we need to win the propaganda war? Because we have Khujli, RaGa and @BlackOpsIndia including @Guynextdoor. The motivation of people is very important when you go to war or prepare for war. Pakistan Army thinks that they can call for Jihaad against India and every muslim of Pakistn will run to our borders with whatever weapon they have. Please read the judgement passed by Pakistan Supreme Court which says that Jihaad call can only be made by the government of the day.
Now Imagine, these idiots are still living in the days of Jihaad when Sindhis and Pushtuns and Balochies want separate homeland. Their Jihaad failed in Bangladesh as the Jihaadis ended up raping the muslim women.
The Jihaad will be in Pakistan, but against Punjabi population and against Punjabi Army. trust me, this time Pak punjab will ask for asylum in India and their people will also convert to Hinduism willingly and also state their original Gotra. These third rate converts needed our help in history and will need always.
I see your foresight

Yup and I am tired of bullshit being spread, the lies and more lies.

We did a lot, almost created 4-5 accounts on Twitter to strike Pakistan every other day. Fitting tribute to those dead and if someone asks it's just a rant, don't worry about it, we will kill few more Pakistanis today on Twitter.

If you are looking for physical proof of all the response of Indian military, you wont get it now. Period!!

You can vent your frustrations as much as you like.

If provided, it may expand your chest to 56" but India's strategy for complete annihilation of Pakistan will be missed.

You have to understand that we have to play against the weakness of the enemy, and Pakistan's weakness is it's fake invincibility and posturing that it has created for their citizens within, as well as with outsiders.

Even US could not play along this strategy in Iraq and Afghanistan, what India is currently successfully executing.

It is a complex mix of Technology + Intelligence + Strategy + Execution, which we are utilizing to the fullest potential as per the opportunities, which are available to us in the form of Internal turmoil for exploitation

As well, other situations are created by us, to hammer them.

We are pushing them on the defensive, so they keep guessing what India will do next.

This lack of understanding of India's game will completely confuse and demoralize the enemy

We cannot be bull headed in this game of treachery and deceit. Else you know what happens in the Spanish bull fighting and that is what we underwent for the past 70 years.

Till today I have not understood why Soviets
Invaded Afghanistan

That made Pakistan a US ally and it got nukes too , because US needed its help
So it ignored Pak Nuclear program

Soviet invasion of Afghanistan Only helped
Pakistan
Read this book by Narendra Singh Sarila @Narendar Singh https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006U1NSIY/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i2
 
so the hoi polloi can suffer whille the emperor can have a value of his time ,its shameful to say the least .the fact is he was more interested in getting himself reelected rather than giving opportunity to IAF for salvaging their pride ,but here we will have many ppl who will say that we hit tarbela ,we hit this and that based on some unknown 1or 2 tweet ,this is what we have fallen to. despicable
 
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He will.

I dont know what is the issue with flying over? They can't really stop us or we can't stop them anyway unless we are in a state of war.

Any country's delegation flights or Red Cross registered flights have to be allowed over any air route as long as they have given 3 days of prior notification and the country is not in state of war. It's part of the UN charter.

Airspace was open during 1971 1999 wars. Why do you think flights were allowed during Berlin Airlift?
Something I have been saying the whole time.
 
I wouldn't be worried about this "narrative" business.

The Pakistanis are in such a bad position that their military officials can't even publicly speak about it or risk revolt within their own ranks. There's not been a single word from the PAF to date.

One can only imagine what's happening within their HQ. They could not prevent the IAF from striking Balakot, and two other sites. They used their best forces against us the next day and had given themselves the best possible scenario they can possibly face, they failed to hit any ground targets, failed to hit any of the CAP flights, failed to detect the Mig-21s and then lost their best jet in the process. Why do you think they are so silent?

They have reached a point where they are practically begging us to deescalate.
Pakistan asking for deescalation and peace talks is possible even if they had the upper hand on 27th. They know that they cannot sustain a longer battle (even 2-3 days) due to their economic condition. We showed the will to act below the nuke threshold, and this has been accepted openly by the PA. Deescalation is a natural consequence - things will restart at a later time unless we up our game.

Pakistan needs to come up with a revised nuke deterrence strategy, but this will not be easy.
 
Airspace was open during 1971 1999 wars. Why do you think flights were allowed during Berlin Airlift?

Airspace wasn't open during the 1971 war.

1971 Indian Airlines hijacking - Wikipedia


Berlin Blockade - Wikipedia

Excerpts from Wikipedia -

The Western Allies organised the Berlin airlift (26 June 1948–30 September 1949) to carry supplies to the people of West Berlin, a difficult feat given the size of the city's population.[1][2] Aircrews from the United States Air Force, the Royal Air Force, the French Air Force,[3] the Royal Canadian Air Force, the Royal Australian Air Force, the Royal New Zealand Air Force, and the South African Air Force[4]:338 flew over 200,000 sorties in one year, providing to the West Berliners up to 12,941 tons of necessities in a day, such as fuel and food, with the original plan being to lift 3,475 tons of supplies. However, by the end of the airlift, that number was often met twofold.[5] The Soviets did not disrupt the airlift for fear this might lead to open conflict, even though they far outnumbered the allies in Germany and especially Berlin.[6] [7]

Hence, sovereign nations are well within their right to blockade flights from any Nation. It's usually avoided for a reason in extreme situations or a reason provided as in 1971 to justify such a blockade.
 
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Doesn't matter if you dominate narrative or not as long as damage is done. So far our claims from semi official or journalists given special access by IAF really didn't add up with third party information available and are bordering to be called lies. I don't want to know many details as long as jihadis are skinned alive for killing 40 soldiers but our foreign secretary gave details, he specifically mentioned large number casualties in Balakote camp, when you go this length and some third party released images contrary to your claim it's your duty to clear the picture.

I have reservations about all the incidents post 27th. If we are causing pain to them then how is it that we are also not suffering militarily? But both @vstol Jockey and @Falcon have suggested that some of them are partly true.

We aam junta will not know until a few years from now.
 
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Pakistan asking for deescalation and peace talks is possible even if they had the upper hand on 27th. They know that they cannot sustain a longer battle (even 2-3 days) due to their economic condition. We showed the will to act below the nuke threshold, and this has been accepted openly by the PA. Deescalation is a natural consequence - things will restart at a later time unless we up our game.

I don't think there is a plan to deescalate at the LoC though. At least until winter comes. If we relax, then they will definitely hit back.

And there are elements within Pakistan itself that will want to keep tensions high. So Pakistan has to remove those elements first.

Pakistan needs to come up with a revised nuke deterrence strategy, but this will not be easy.

They are already at the extreme end of things. I doubt there's much they can do here that will not risk India withdrawing from the unilateral NFU.
 
Till today I have not understood why Soviets
Invaded Afghanistan

That made Pakistan a US ally and it got nukes too , because US needed its help
So it ignored Pak Nuclear program

Soviet invasion of Afghanistan Only helped
Pakistan
For an explanation on why did the SU invade Afghanistan, you'd have to read on the composition of the Government of Afghanistan after the overthrow of King Zahir Shah, the Daud Khan regime, the Saur revolution , the factional fights between the Khalq & Parcham groups in the Afghanistan Communist Party and the SU's role in all of it.

Incidentally, there was plenty of opposition to the direct involvement of the SU within the SU itself and IG was certainly unhappy with such an outcome though publically, India didn't voice any misgivings.
 
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I have reservations about all the incidents post 27th. If we are causing pain to them then how is it that we are also not suffering militarily? But both @vstol Jockey and @Falcon have suggested that some of them are partly true.

We aam junta will not know until a few years from now.
Well I was avoiding saying this, as I already invited so many personal comments for merely asking questions on claims, fanboys get rattled and personal so easily.

The claims of 600-700 PA killed and we suffered nothing were ludicrous unless we developed some kind of super armour that can defeat artillery, bullets and ATGM and every jawan is wearing it.
 
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Before Baba appeared, you were literally sitting on Falcons head for evidence and info...

Guess what ll happen if one doesn't believe baba s tweets..

But I believe I need patience to check the veracity of the tweets, how he handled his handle..

Not sure how long it will take to confirm loss of F16.. Or Jf17 in Multan or tarbela or march 5/6..

It not like My being aware of it, is urgent anyway... Will wait for juicy details when it appears.


Im following this thread from beginning but not much about what happened on march 5/6 except a friendly fire incident at Multan.

Can anybody at least give a hint about what happened on March 5-6?

@randomradio @vstol Jockey @Falcon @STEPHEN COHEN @STEPHEN COHEN
 
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There are few unconfirmed reports of cross border raid.....With a significant casuality inflicted... But then there are other theories as well..... We may have to wait some more time to get exact details of the action.....

Is any theory indicating air to air combat victory for IAF?
 
I think baba will be first one to reveal what happened on March 5/6 , tarbela and one other place ...

Coz everyday he taunts Dgispr Twitter handle with those...

He has only told one thing so far , that

Pakistan's Nuclear Bluff was Exposed
On 5 - 6 March
 
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Interesting article here:

After turning the heat on Pakistan, why is the government petitioning it for overflight permission to PM Modi?

Sometimes I wonder beneath all the bravado, it is Modi who is desperate to talk to Imran... and then there is this article by Print
Pakistan shuts down terror camps, to reopen airspace ahead of Modi-Imran photo op

Especially the last sentence takes the cake:

"The government sources pointed out that “even if these camps are restored at some later stage” by Pakistani intelligence agencies, the fact remains that the shutting down of these camps is a “huge symbolic gain for India”."

Looks like Pakistan is right.. atleast the Hindus in the foreign office lack "Ghairat".
 
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Interesting article here:

After turning the heat on Pakistan, why is the government petitioning it for overflight permission to PM Modi?

Sometimes I wonder beneath all the bravado, it is Modi who is desperate to talk to Imran... and then there is this article by Print
Pakistan shuts down terror camps, to reopen airspace ahead of Modi-Imran photo op

Especially the last sentence takes the cake:

"The government sources pointed out that “even if these camps are restored at some later stage” by Pakistani intelligence agencies, the fact remains that the shutting down of these camps is a “huge symbolic gain for India”."

Looks like Pakistan is right.. atleast the Hindus in the foreign office lack "Ghairat".

I remember reading a article that militant s in pak were asked to Don military uniform..

#Rehash

Making it Easier to declare terror factory Nation.
 
I remember reading a article that militant s in pak were asked to Don military uniform..

#Rehash

Making it Easier to declare terror factory Nation.
Not exactly.. .India might say that it is a symbolic win that pakistani terrorists are wearing Army uniforms, hence there are officially no terrorists in Pok, and restart talks...
 
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