Actually you should be thankful to our brave wing co Abhinandan. He saved your Karachi from sure destruction. Had he been not captured that the whole world would have seen India's might and your plight and helplessness. It was a quid pro quo you returned wing co Abhinandan unharmed and we let go Karachi.
India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
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@Arsalan123 has spoken about beaten WC Abhi but has refused to speak about his own pilot who got lynched by his own people. This is the standard of retardness of Pakistan Awaam.
The fratricide was unfortunate. Even US while fighting Iraq had multiple friendly fires that don't mean they were panicking. US lost pilots over Iraq as well as many other countries AF. We have lost a Mig 21 over Pak during Kargil as well. Just cause PAF managed to shoot down a Mig 21 over Pak airspace when PAF was inoffensive doesn't mean PAF won. Lol Pakistanis seem to be real sile people being happy with small things while ignoring the bigger things. In the bigger scene Pakistanis lost this confrontation very badly on the 26th and the 27th their only victory was shooting down an old Mig. Indians victory was striking JEM cap in Pak proper, crossing into Pak airspace and getting out without intervention and defending our own airspace and assets. But Pakistanis always celebrate the small things as usuall.
We bought those with hard cash.
Not got these in alms in begging bowl like F-16s. Hence both will be available during war on both eastern and Western borders or on any front for that matter. The only way America can create trouble is with spares which can be taken care of by keeping good inventory....
US will lose the Indian market if they pull a stunt like this
independence and freedom to operate are reasons given against US weapons. They wont do it at least until the new MRCA program is going on
Coming back to the thread topic
Has there been any flareup at the LoC today ? The usual suspects are active on twitter again.
Has there been any flareup at the LoC today ? The usual suspects are active on twitter again.
Suppose it was WC Abhinandan that got lynched by local population, does our armed forces have liberty to neutralize these hostile civilians using arty or smerch or air power in retribution?
Considering use of air force as new normal, shouldn't we set SOPs for such eventualities? A deterrent is needed.
War is about military targets and not civilian targets.
That's my point. Are we willing to play dirty and secure our pilot's safety across LoC? It's a point to ponder under current circumstances.
Just like how pok residents rejects terrorist launchpads, we should condition them to return our pilot(s) without any harm.
How will whole country feel if these talibanis drag Indian fighter pilot body on road as display? I don't think I need to explain impact of these visuals.
yes and that's correct , looks like due to the failed nav wire the Chinese ATGM fell on one of the Pakistani own forward posts.
That's what I was saying with different words. They can withold spares during war which won't last more than a few weeks which is manageable with good inventory management. After war we can buy anything.
Fighters are different ball game hence India is trying best to avoid any American fighters. Modern American Fighters also are connected to US satellites and other assets and will let them know our mission before hand. So it's still a no go area for India.
Jo Kaumein Tareekh ko musk karti hain,
Tareekh unhen musk kar diya karti hain
- Hassan Nisar
The Oink Oinkers operate the HJ-8 (aptly initialled BS) or the TOWs both are wire guided. How do we jam wire guided missiles?
Nobody is celebrating.we don't celebrate skirmishes.we failed on 26 but we managed to put some pressure on you on 27.i have seen lots of Indian members who talk about their airspace like no one can even cross it.also you have massive number of air defence systems.they all failed.our victory is much bigger my friend.now we know how to fool indian sams.we mapped terrain during 27 fight.we have Intel just like you have it.india knows pakistani airspace is not defended well with Sams because we don't have large numbers of sams.this is serious problem for us but we are working on this issue.
Lol man PAF never crossed LOC. Why they have to cross LOC when they could hit the target from within PAk airspace? I am tired of you saying the same BS over and over again. Our SAMs failed? Our AD was in ultra alert that is why the fratricide cause the MI17 was flying with IFF off. You'r victory is null. The only positive is shooting down an old Mig 21. That too because it crossed into Pak. PAF strategy failed horribly, they were caught sleeping when IAF did a deep penetration attack and got back without having to fire a single missile. But same cant be said about the PAF op. If Pak was so confident why is the airspace still closed? they are still scared of IAF retaliation. And Pak economy going to shit state soon the whole country will be like Somalia except with nukes.
tell me one thing though arsalan , you agree that pulwama happened right? we lost 40+ soldiers to a blast and you agree that we lost a helicopter to firendly fire and we lost a mig-21 right?
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