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Why your su-30 turned cold? There was so much chest thumping about su-30 but we managed to handle them.fratricide on your side,and what happened to the wingman of mig-21? Where is the mig that was flying with abhinandan? There are so much positive things for pakistan.

Why did your government release Abhi?

Why was the tea served?

Because it was ordered.
 
Why did your government release Abhi?

Why was the tea served?

Because it was ordered.

Yes and beating on ground was also ordered.i mean come on,at least accept your weakness. Accept that we did well overall.i have no idea about f-16 but I am sure abhinandan was treated well here.we aren't animals.india is a country which will not sit back silently if it's mig went down somewhere.you wanted to attack pakistan on feb28.what was the reason of anger? Can you explain?airspace closed and still chances of air battle.why iaf want more air battle? You should explain it.
 
You will realize it after you start a war otherwise same chest thumping.you people don't accept your weakness.you portray every action as a success.
Musharraf ruled over Pakistan despite the humiliation he received in Kargil and moreover he was made COAS despite humiliation in Siachen LoL stop living in fantasy
 
You will realize it after you start a war otherwise same chest thumping.you people don't accept your weakness.you portray every action as a success.

Our compassion is our only weakness.
What Chest thumping? Pakistan is not a country but a nuisance for us. We wont start a war, don't get me wrong, its not about morals but the fact the blowing up a cesspool only increases the stench. But its important that it is cleaned and filled for good forever.
 
Yes and beating on ground was also ordered.i mean come on,at least accept your weakness. Accept that we did well overall.i have no idea about f-16 but I am sure abhinandan was treated well here.we aren't animals.india is a country which will not sit back silently if it's mig went down somewhere.you wanted to attack pakistan on feb28.what was the reason of anger? Can you explain?airspace closed and still chances of air battle.why iaf want more air battle? You should explain it.

Our weakness,
we were left with Mig 21 to gaurd in FoB
RoE,
No long range AAM,
In a 24 vs 8 engagement, could take out only 1.
No overt evidence for the civies..

Bought 700 missiles already to replenish and also to address range deficiency..

Next engagement won't be easy..
 
Our weakness,
we were left with Mig 21 to gaurd in FoB
RoE,
No long range AAM,
In a 24 vs 8 engagement, could take out only 1.
No overt evidence for the civies..

Bought 700 missiles already to replenish and also to address range deficiency..

Next engagement won't be easy..
I agree that you made some good steps after Feb 27 like new missiles.
 
For the time being, the best proof we can have is when Pak officially awards its pilots for kills, and the pilots must be physically present to accept the awards. Are Pak armed forces personnel awarded on 14th Aug?
No I think these awards are awarded on Pakistan Day 23rd March. Physical presence may not be mandatory if identity is to be kept secret.
 
Why your su-30 turned cold? There was so much chest thumping about su-30 but we managed to handle them.fratricide on your side,and what happened to the wingman of mig-21? Where is the mig that was flying with abhinandan? There are so much positive things for pakistan.

Entire PAF was up and flying.... Just for a technical voilation...... Su30 were there to defend the skies.... which they did perfectly..... technical voilation of 1 km is like kids play touch no touch. They were positioned to defend the AFB... which they did.... meanwhile your AF used thier trump cards on first move itself....Wasted 5 aamraams..... If thats a victory... Good luck with that.....
WC abhi crossed the ROE and got exited.... though he got his catch, went down as an aggressor. If that is a victory again congraats.....

Similarly i would congratulate previous victories such as 1965.....and Kargil.......

For me the winner here is Gafoora....Who fooled 20 million people, but since he is a human being made a small mistake of "Do Pilots" and havent heard a single soul asking him about it....
 
There is a written statement but I can't find it right now but read this below.even iaf accepted violation of airspace.

India won't buckle under pressure, forces given free hand to take future course of action

Violated airspace means coming within 10 KMs to the LOC. Not crossing LOC. As I said the fact that the dog fight took place over Pak airspace that too when PAF was the one attacking speaks a lot. PAF came close to the LOC most probably right over the LOC when the confrontation happened they released the package and high tailed back but the Mig 21 crossing the LOC which was unexpected for both sides. Also, seeing the PAF reaction how they blow this small skirmish out of proportion speaks a lot of how scared they are of IAF. Shooting down an old Mig 21 over Pak and losing another PAF fighter to that Mig 21, airspace still closed and Pakistanis believe the fact this was a "victory" when in fact there was 0 value to PAF op except for some happy Pakistanis that they "retaliated".
 
No I think these awards are awarded on Pakistan Day 23rd March. Physical presence may not be mandatory if identity is to be kept secret.
If identity is to be kept secret, then they cannot publicly name the pilots. But they have named the two pilots, so they have to be physically present to accept the awards. Why didn't they award the pilots on 23rd March - some nomination time period requirements? So no distribution of awards till coming 23rd March which is plenty of time for things to cool down furher.
 
I am on indian defence forum.i can reply you but it will result in permanent ban so I can't reply.this forum is for Indian members and not friendly towards hostile countries.
I have seen the venom u spew on your forums , some pathetic people were taking pride in killing million bangalis in 71 and whatever i have said is accepted by your own Najam Sethi and Ex ISI head even Mushi accepted losses and even Nawaz Sharif
Your so called win on 27th is as fake as Mohammed Alam downing 5 jets in less than a minute and 4 in less than 30 seconds, what a joke and fool awam like you believes this
 
If identity is to be kept secret, then they cannot publicly name the pilots. But they have named the two pilots, so they have to be physically present to accept the awards. Why didn't they award the pilots on 23rd March - some nomination time period requirements? So no distribution of awards till coming 23rd March which is plenty of time for things to cool down furher.
They honoured one of the pilot in National Assembly and then someone stood up and mentioned other pilot. Giving gallantry awards to losers is not new in Pakistan especially when it can make them look winner against India. Don't wait too eagerly for leaks and all, if it comes out good if it doesn't even better, that video is enough for me, I have corroborated it with other videos, events, it fits well, so far not a single credible doubt of that video of not being a PAF jet (most probably f16).

Those waiting for leaks must know that even Pakistanis don't know what happened in Abbottabad or any other serious event in Pakistan. They don't trust their public with truth if there is a leak they will do their best to discredit the source. So be happy you got the video.
 
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