India - Pakistan Standoff 2019
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Something @Falcon and @vstol Jockey are saying from long. They were lucky to have lost just F16 and not whole country.
No. Our policy stopped us. We are not looking for a war. Uffff ... you are not reading what I have been typing right from Uri times --- we are not going to war. We will take them down more deliberately, with minimum effects on us. Why fight when you have more effective instruments to help the enemy commit suicide?
Sir what about those Kashmiris in POK, Sindhis in Sindhudesh, Balochs in Baluchistan and Pathans in Pashtunistan??? They are getting persecuted on a daily basis. Even every second counts for them. The more we delay their liberation the more they will suffer. That is why we should take action now not because we can win but because we couldn't tolerate more.
Frankly, that is an internal affair of Pakistan. Really not concerned with them. Baluchistan issue is something which is akin to Kashmir issue, so my suppport on that front is purely as a reciprocal action to Pakistanis meddling in J&K.
If you study carefully, apart from multiple claims by fanboys online, who will always quote someone they know who knows someone who knows someone, to perpetuate a situation of "active" Indian involvement in Baluch movement, only Pakistani fanboys claim our involvement. And of course MMS in Shram al Shaikh But nothing could be further from the truth.
Had we been actively involved, we would have seen spectacular results by now, by pumping in about $2Billions into the movement for a start.
We need to look after our interests; instability & chaos to west of us does not help our interests.
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That still doesn't answer the question of the persecution of all the non Punjabi Muslims in Pakistan. I think on humanitarian grounds we ' must' help them.
That "humanitarian ground" escuse is a slippery slope that is best left untouched
None of our business. Strictly, Pakistan's own affairs as to how they want to treat their minorities. As long as they don't pontify to us, from my side, do whatever you want (to Pakistanis).
We need to concentrate on our own society for all the actions needed under "humanitarian" heading.
Strictly speaking, I am supporter of all actions which prod Pakistan to mind its own business, whatever it may be (the business), our actions need to be proportional & in consonance to our core beliefs & security imperatives/national interest.
Is it not in our national interest and security to desire independent Sindhudesh, Balochdesh and Pakhtunwadesh
But this is where our western neighbor is headed towards.
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#LoCUpdate Pakistani post destroyed by Indian army near Abbaspur of PoK today morning.
A mortar position of enemy installed in a school compound also destroyed by IA..Coward Pak Army is using civilians as shield.
A mortar position of enemy installed in a school compound also destroyed by IA..Coward Pak Army is using civilians as shield.
A rouge and brutal regime in our western border will always be harmful for us. Maybe all those persecutions are ' none of our buissness ' but surely we could use them as a reason to strike and destroy Pakistan because frankly speaking the very existence of Pakistan is now not in our interest even it is constantly putting adverse effects on them.
I wonder how long will this continue though? There are already reports that in view of the heavily fortified LoC, the PA / ISI duo have shifted infiltration to Punjab. What's to prevent them from shifting it further south to Rajasthan & Gujarat in the near to long term future. Given that they've eschewed an open war, with the easing of restrictions in Kashmir, we are bound to see a backlash there. It could potentially translate in intensification of the insurgency there and a possible spread across the mainland manifesting in spectacular strikes.Apart from this, there are other fault lines for the PA / ISI to probe across India. Any insight on how are we going to manage this intensification of hybrid warfare across the country, a Conventional Balakote type response not withstanding & assuming it'd end just as inconclusively like it did on 27th February.
Nah all the world powers use it frequently to further their interests. If we have the ambition to become a superpower we should start behaving like one.
Actually India wants US not to talk to Pakistan on any issue related with Afghanistan unless until Pakistanis stops terrorism in Afghanistan similarly in Kashmir. But Pakistanis want to blackmail both India and US by increasing their act of terrorism. What happened in Kabul yesterday is Pakistan's work to pressurize US to sit with them along with Taliban and want US to force India to bring ease in Kashmir. Although Kashmir and Afghanistan are two different issues but Pakistan is trying to bring them in same context.
If India succeeds in it's policy of no talks while terrorism goes on, then US will also adopt the same method with Pakistan and that is what Pakistan is countering. US is an observant right now if India does well by silencing Pakistanis.
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