India - Pakistan Standoff 2019

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I have observed Pakistan for 20 years
From Kargil Onwards

They were Never so desperate for peace and de-escalation

Even during 2002 standoff they were full of
Arrogance

How many of You Remember MUSHARRAF's Arrogance in Agra where he called A press conference and clearly said that if India did not Hand over Kashmir , these Killings and Wars will continue

What is Imran saying today
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
I have observed Pakistan for 20 years
From Kargil Onwards

They were Never so desperate for peace and de-escalation

Even during 2002 standoff they were full of
Arrogance

How many of You Remember MUSHARRAF's Arrogance in Agra where he called A press conference and clearly said that if India did not Hand over Kashmir , these Killings and Wars will continue

What is Imran saying today
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They are desperate bcz of FATF meeting..
 
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vstol Jockey said:
so why are you asking me for it? Jo hona tha ho gaya.
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Sir some guys here are quite negative , i agree we are weak in propaganda , we dont have a history in lying. But we shouldn't forget that fake Propaganda creates a sense of fake superiority which can hit back hard , so lets keep faith in our forces and let them do their job , just wish our political leaders maintain their strong political will
 
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Deathstar said:
Sir some guys here are quite negative , i agree we are weak in propaganda , we dont have a history in lying. But we shouldn't forget that fake Propaganda creates a sense of fake superiority which can hit back hard , so lets keep faith in our forces and let them do their job , just wish our political leaders maintain their strong political will
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Do you know why we need to win the propaganda war? Because we have Khujli, RaGa and @BlackOpsIndia including @Guynextdoor. The motivation of people is very important when you go to war or prepare for war. Pakistan Army thinks that they can call for Jihaad against India and every muslim of Pakistn will run to our borders with whatever weapon they have. Please read the judgement passed by Pakistan Supreme Court which says that Jihaad call can only be made by the government of the day.
Now Imagine, these idiots are still living in the days of Jihaad when Sindhis and Pushtuns and Balochies want separate homeland. Their Jihaad failed in Bangladesh as the Jihaadis ended up raping the muslim women.
The Jihaad will be in Pakistan, but against Punjabi population and against Punjabi Army. trust me, this time Pak punjab will ask for asylum in India and their people will also convert to Hinduism willingly and also state their original Gotra. These third rate converts needed our help in history and will need always.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
Do you know why we need to win the propaganda war? Because we have Khujli, RaGa and @BlackOpsIndia including @Guynextdoor. The motivation of people is very important when you go to war or prepare for war. Pakistan Army thinks that they can call for Jihaad against India and every muslim of Pakistn will run to our borders with whatever weapon they have. Please read the judgement passed by Pakistan Supreme Court which says that Jihaad call can only be made by the government of the day.
Now Imagine, these idiots are still living in the days of Jihaad when Sindhis and Pushtuns and Balochies want separate homeland. Their Jihaad failed in Bangladesh as the Jihaadis ended up raping the muslim women.
The Jihaad will be in Pakistan, but against Punjabi population and against Punjabi Army. trust me, this time Pak punjab will ask for asylum in India and their people will also convert to Hinduism willingly and also state their original Gotra. These third rate converts needed our help in history and will need always.
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Arresting Zardari when PTM and Baloch are already in A War like state was a bold move by Pak Army
 
vstol Jockey said:
Do you know why we need to win the propaganda war? Because we have Khujli, RaGa and @BlackOpsIndia including @Guynextdoor. The motivation of people is very important when you go to war or prepare for war.
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The only time this conflict was on verge of war the strong leader chickened out so please spare me this crap of war and motivation and all.

There are very rare moments in history where your actions can have long lasting effects, if you miss them they are not coming back. Nehru got scared and didn't use IAF in 62 and we lost a war, Indra Gandhi got cold feet in attacking Kahuta and Pakistan is now nuclear cancer. Thanks to Modiji the terrorism and BAT actions are not going anywhere. Every other day we are finding IED, one unlucky day and we will be losing more jawans. But it doesn't matter as long as it's not election season.

You should also avoid making personal comments on every other reply, makes you look like sore loser which doesn't suit on a retired officer and aged man.
 
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BlackOpsIndia said:
The only time this conflict was on verge of war the strong leader chickened out so please spare me this crap of war and motivation and all.

There are very rare moments in history where your actions can have long lasting effects, if you miss them they are not coming back. Nehru got scared and didn't use IAF in 62 and we lost a war, Indra Gandhi got cold feet in attacking Kahuta and Pakistan is now nuclear cancer. Thanks to Modiji the terrorism and BAT actions are not going anywhere. Every other day we are finding IED, one unlucky day and we will be losing more jawans. But it doesn't matter as long as it's not election season.

You should also avoid making personal comments on every other reply, makes you look like sore loser which doesn't suit on a retired officer and aged man.
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Nehru made a mistake , OK

But Attacking Kahuta in 1982 or 83
Would have Finished off INDIA

The Cold war was in Full play and US and its
Allies and OIC would have screwed us totally

Soviet Union alone could not have helped India because it had its own Economic problems , As a Result of which it collapsed
In 1990
 
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BlackOpsIndia said:
The only time this conflict was on verge of war the strong leader chickened out so please spare me this crap of war and motivation and all.

There are very rare moments in history where your actions can have long lasting effects, if you miss them they are not coming back. Nehru got scared and didn't use IAF in 62 and we lost a war, Indra Gandhi got cold feet in attacking Kahuta and Pakistan is now nuclear cancer. Thanks to Modiji the terrorism and BAT actions are not going anywhere. Every other day we are finding IED, one unlucky day and we will be losing more jawans. But it doesn't matter as long as it's not election season.

You should also avoid making personal comments on every other reply, makes you look like sore loser which doesn't suit on a retired officer and aged man.
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It is Really strange that People start Nitpicking when SOME BODY does nothing

When Everybody was ASLEEP , there were No complaints
 
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F. Y. I Indira Gandhi was very much in the midst of planning a war on Pakistan before the assassination cut it short. The less said about RG - the original pappu and the Israeli proposal to bomb Pakistan N reactors or even Gen Sundarji's Op Brasstacks the better. I hope @Falcon or @vstol Jockey respond to this post in an elaborate manner. Just to set the record straight.
STEPHEN COHEN said:
Nehru made a mistake , OK

But Attacking Kahuta in 1982 or 83
Would have Finished off INDIA

The Cold war was in Full play and US and its
Allies and OIC would have screwed us totally

Soviet Union alone could not have helped India because it had its own Economic problems , As a Result of which it collapsed
In 1990
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_Anonymous_ said:
F. Y. I Indira Gandhi was very much in the midst of planning a war on Pakistan before the assassination cut it short. The less said about RG - the original pappu and the Israeli proposal to bomb Pakistan N reactors or even Gen Sundarji's Op Brasstacks the better. I hope @Falcon or @vstol Jockey respond to this post in an elaborate manner. Just to set the record straight.
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See the Fact is that Our Economy was Shitty in Eighties , Because the 70s were a lost decade for Indian economy

And Soviet Economy was also going downhill in the Eighties

Pakistan was a frontline Ally because of Afghan War

When US Announced F 16 sale in 1982
There was Panic in the Country ,

Throughout the Eighties , there was only one worry , that Pakistan will become strong with US weapons and attack us

There was no way we could have Started
A war with Sanctions looming on us

China border became Tense in 1987 , and along with Brasstacks against Pakistan

We were in no position to initiate a conflict

Punjab terrorism problem was ongoing and was a huge problem
Then came 1989 / 90 and Kashmir went up in flames
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
It is Really strange that People start Nitpicking when SOME BODY does nothing

When Everybody was ASLEEP , there were No complaints
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Pakistan attacked us twice first on 14th Feb where we lost 40+ soldiers, bodies mutilated beyond recognition.

Secondly on 27th Feb and we saw videos of Abhinandans getting beaten.

We attacked them once, 26th, and are still struggling to find a single evidence, single picture or anything at all to show one body for loss of 40+ jawans.

And if that's not enough that duplicitous 56 inch is granting Visa to Pakistani Foreign secretary, requesting Pakistan to open airspace for him.

It boils my blood to see those pictures of 14th Feb, video of Major Vibhuti Dhundiyal widow in tears and then this fake 56 inch chest beating reducing a nation of 125 crores to joke!

Atleast with Manmohan Singh we knew we have elected impotent, he is not going to attack, not going to take any revenge at all and for that we reduced congress to 44 and there they will remain.
 
BlackOpsIndia said:
Pakistan attacked us twice first on 14th Feb where we lost 40+ soldiers, bodies mutilated beyond recognition.

Secondly on 27th Feb and we saw videos of Abhinandans getting beaten.

We attacked them once, 26th, and are still struggling to find a single evidence, single picture or anything at all to show one body for loss of 40+ jawans.

And if that's not enough that duplicitous 56 inch is granting Visa to Pakistani Foreign secretary, requesting Pakistan to open airspace for him.

It boils my blood to see those pictures of 14th Feb, video of Major Vibhuti Dhundiyal widow in tears and then this fake 56 inch chest beating reducing a nation of 125 crores to joke!

Atleast with Manmohan Singh we knew we have elected impotent, he is not going to attack, not going to take any revenge at all and for that we reduced congress to 44 and there they will remain.
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Brother , even I am tired and fed up of your Rants

At least we did something and will do a lot more , Now Wait and watch
 
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