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[LX1111]

@randomradio

If you remember our above discussion which we had regarding passive radars to track J-20/VLO fighters. Well here is something interesting. Give it a look:

We are preparing to thwart Chinese VLO fighters, IMO. What say?

The Czech radar was very popular in the last century
He wouldn't be able to detect a stealth plane
Beginners only think that stealth is invisible on the radar, in fact, it is not, the fifth generation fighter stealth is divided into radar stealth, infrared stealth and radio frequency stealth, Radio frequency stealth requires aircraft to be able to manage their own electromagnetic signals, making it difficult for the enemy to accurately locate their signal source

 

[Rajput Lion]

What about series of passive acoustic radars all across LAC to listen to any Chinese VLO intrusion? Will that work?

So did someone read my comments?? @randomradio, @marich01, @_Anonymous_, @Speedster1, @YoungWolf, @Parthu, @Gautam, @Ashwin, @vstol Jockey, @HariPrasad, @Sathya, @Picdelamirand-oil, @Bon Plan et al





Source:

DRDO Passive Coherent Location Radar (PCLR) pic.twitter.com/MQ4IWsp7Iw

— shreedhar singh (@shreedharsingh9) February 5, 2025

 

[Rajput Lion]

And @LX1111

We've already developed your J-20/35/36/50 buster brah

India has introduced an advanced Very High Frequency (VHF) radar to enhance its air defense capabilities, particularly for detecting stealth aircraft. Officially launched on January 29, 2025,at BEL-Ghaziabad, this cutting-edge system boosts surveillance and security efforts.

This powerful radar system offers several advantages:

* Constant Airspace Monitoring: It continuously scans the skies, improving detection of stealth aircraft, including advanced fighters, from long distances.

* High-Precision Tracking: Advanced technology ensures accurate identification and monitoring of aerial threats.

* Effective Against Stealth Technology: Operating in the VHF band (30 to 300 MHz), the radar's longer wavelengths help detect aircraft designed to evade traditional radars.

* Extended Range: It can track targets beyond 100 nautical miles, providing early warnings against potential threats. While specific detection capabilities remain classified, it significantly reduces the effectiveness of stealth aircraft.

* Mobility and Strategic Advantage: Built for rapid deployment, the radar is mounted on two TATRA vehicles, making it easy to relocate and adapt to changing security needs. Its mobility ensures better coverage and flexibility in various terrains.

Advancing Defence Technology

This new radar marks a significant step forward in self-reliance for defense systems. It strengthens India's ability to track modern stealth aircraft and improves overall airspace security.

The radar will be featured at Aero India 2025, offering defense experts and industry leaders a firsthand look at its capabilities. The event will highlight India’s progress in radar technology and its expanding role in advanced defense systems.

This next-generation VHF radar is a game-changer for India’s defence.

With stealth detection, continuous surveillance, and fast deployment, it plays a key role in securing national airspace. Its ability to track advanced stealth aircraft makes it an essential tool in modern warfare.

Source: Made in India VHF radar can detect stealth aircraft, bolster air defense

Once the above two radars get operationalised, our anti-VLO network will be almost ready. Only fly in the ointment is lack of our own VLO jet. But then once(hopefully) we get those Su-57s then we'll be all set, that too well within this decade to thwart PLAAF over the Himalayas.

 

[LX1111]

And @LX1111

We've already developed your J-20/35/36/50 buster brah

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Source: Made in India VHF radar can detect stealth aircraft, bolster air defense

Once the above two radars get operationalised, our anti-VLO network will be almost ready. Only fly in the ointment is lack of our own VLO jet. But then once(hopefully) we get those Su-57s then we'll be all set, that too well within this decade to thwart PLAAF over the Himalayas.

610B Long-range early warning radar

610A Long-range early warning radar

780 target indication radar

YLC-8B Air Defense Early Warning Detection Radar

JY-27A Surveillance radar

JY-16 Battalion Search Radar

 

[LX1111]

And @LX1111

We've already developed your J-20/35/36/50 buster brah

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Source: Made in India VHF radar can detect stealth aircraft, bolster air defense

Once the above two radars get operationalised, our anti-VLO network will be almost ready. Only fly in the ointment is lack of our own VLO jet. But then once(hopefully) we get those Su-57s then we'll be all set, that too well within this decade to thwart PLAAF over the Himalayas.

The radars I've listed are just a small part of China's new generation of theater air defense early warning radars, which focus on optimizing the detection of stealth targets,GaN components are widely used, and the working system is all AESA

 

[_Anonymous_]

So did someone read my comments?? @randomradio, @marich01, @_Anonymous_, @Speedster1, @YoungWolf, @Parthu, @Gautam, @Ashwin, @vstol Jockey, @HariPrasad, @Sathya, @Picdelamirand-oil, @Bon Plan et al

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Source:

DRDO Passive Coherent Location Radar (PCLR) pic.twitter.com/MQ4IWsp7Iw

— shreedhar singh (@shreedharsingh9) February 5, 2025

Excellent development but we need them in mass . Meanwhile China's gone ahead & done this .

China builds giant anti-hypersonic radar that can track every small and big Indian missile from 5,000 km away

China's new Large Phased Array Radar (LPAR), located in Yunnan province, extends surveillance capabilities over India, especially its missile tests. With a range of over 5,000 km, this advanced radar system is a significant concern for India's security, offering China real-time tracking of...

m.economictimes.com

In addition to this development , in last night's IAH Saurav Jha made a very interesting comment . He cited some website or publication where top think tank military analysts publish their articles & interact with the audience.

A few years ago our deployment of Brahmos in the NE alarmed the Chinese . Not anymore it seems. Those same experts who expressed alarm were now confident the Brahmos didn't pose much of a danger to Chinese military assets in their WTC , meaning they had already developed & deployed counters to it.

 

[Rajput Lion]

Excellent development but we need them in mass . Meanwhile China's gone ahead & done this .

China builds giant anti-hypersonic radar that can track every small and big Indian missile from 5,000 km away

China's new Large Phased Array Radar (LPAR), located in Yunnan province, extends surveillance capabilities over India, especially its missile tests. With a range of over 5,000 km, this advanced radar system is a significant concern for India's security, offering China real-time tracking of...

m.economictimes.com

In addition to this development , in last night's IAH Saurav Jha made a very interesting comment . He cited some website or publication where top think tank military analysts publish their articles & interact with the audience.

A few years ago our deployment of Brahmos in the NE alarmed the Chinese . Not anymore it seems. Those same experts who expressed alarm were now confident the Brahmos didn't pose much of a danger to Chinese military assets in their WTC , meaning they had already developed & deployed counters to it.

Our future capabilities also won't rest solely on BrahMos. Pralay, LRGR Pinaka, BrahMos-ER, HGVs all are going to pound China where it matters. Post Galwan, GOI & our Armed Forces are fully prepare to thwart Chinese intrusion and even fight 2-front war.

Re BrahMos, we're also not sitting quietly, rather silently enhancing its capabilities via various tweaks. Let China be content

 

[_Anonymous_]

Our future capabilities also won't rest solely on BrahMos. Pralay, LRGR Pinaka, BrahMos-ER, HGVs all are going to pound China where it matters. Post Galwan, GOI & our Armed Forces are fully prepare to thwart Chinese intrusion and even fight 2-front war.

Re BrahMos, we're also not sitting quietly, rather silently enhancing its capabilities via various tweaks. Let China be content

True , we are doing that . But we're not going about it with the hurried pace the Chinese are & they're already sitting pretty with the capacities & capabilities they have whereas we're meandering going about things at IST.

Just to reiterate we need a networked ADS & integrated rocket force with thousands of missiles along with our industry geared up to churn out thousands of missiles during war time. Do you see this happening ?

What makes it even worse from our perspective is we've all the building blocks in place. All we've to do is gird our loins & get to work . Seems we're asking for too much.

 

[HariPrasad]

You are right, but it seems to apply more to India and we wouldn't mind restoring India to its pre-British status when, in British terms, India was just a geographical concept. Modi's stupid Hindu nationalist policies will destroy the very foundation of India, which is home to over 100 million Muslims alone.

Muslims have Gazawa e Hind Agenda. If not checked, they will destroy India. Example Pakistan and Bangladesh. In India, Kashmir and Kerala.

 

[randomradio]

Our future capabilities also won't rest solely on BrahMos. Pralay, LRGR Pinaka, BrahMos-ER, HGVs all are going to pound China where it matters. Post Galwan, GOI & our Armed Forces are fully prepare to thwart Chinese intrusion and even fight 2-front war.

Re BrahMos, we're also not sitting quietly, rather silently enhancing its capabilities via various tweaks. Let China be content

Our new ALBMs are interesting, both Indian and Israeli. Gotta get numbers in over the next few years.

 

[LX1111]

Excellent development but we need them in mass . Meanwhile China's gone ahead & done this .

China builds giant anti-hypersonic radar that can track every small and big Indian missile from 5,000 km away

China's new Large Phased Array Radar (LPAR), located in Yunnan province, extends surveillance capabilities over India, especially its missile tests. With a range of over 5,000 km, this advanced radar system is a significant concern for India's security, offering China real-time tracking of...

m.economictimes.com

In addition to this development , in last night's IAH Saurav Jha made a very interesting comment . He cited some website or publication where top think tank military analysts publish their articles & interact with the audience.

A few years ago our deployment of Brahmos in the NE alarmed the Chinese . Not anymore it seems. Those same experts who expressed alarm were now confident the Brahmos didn't pose much of a danger to Chinese military assets in their WTC , meaning they had already developed & deployed counters to it.

Well, the Indian media even got the picture wrong, the radar should be this picture, it has nothing to do with Brahmos missiles, the short range missiles and cruise missiles that India is now developing are not his detection targets, the radar is built mainly to detect the Trident missiles that the US may launch in the Indian Ocean, and the Agni series missiles that India is gradually developing

 

[LX1111]

Our future capabilities also won't rest solely on BrahMos. Pralay, LRGR Pinaka, BrahMos-ER, HGVs all are going to pound China where it matters. Post Galwan, GOI & our Armed Forces are fully prepare to thwart Chinese intrusion and even fight 2-front war.

Re BrahMos, we're also not sitting quietly, rather silently enhancing its capabilities via various tweaks. Let China be content

Well, the Brahms are similar to a high speed MIG21, not some difficult target to intercept, like the KH22 used by Russia in Ukraine, where the radar signal and infrared signal are too obvious

 

[_Anonymous_]

Well, the Indian media even got the picture wrong, the radar should be this picture, it has nothing to do with Brahmos missiles, the short range missiles and cruise missiles that India is now developing are not his detection targets, the radar is built mainly to detect the Trident missiles that the US may launch in the Indian Ocean, and the Agni series missiles that India is gradually developing
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The Indian media didn't get the picture or their facts wrong since those pictures were for representational purposes only & the Chinese LPAR is installed in Yunnan for a number of reasons chief among which is to track ALL missile tests we conduct on our eastern coast.

Trident missile launches would be better tracked by space based ISR assets. Moreover if the US is targeting China with ICBMs or should mostly come from the Eastern Pacific closer to the US west coast not so much from US SSBNs operating in the IOR .

 

[Rajput Lion]

Well, the Brahms are similar to a high speed MIG21, not some difficult target to intercept, like the KH22 used by Russia in Ukraine, where the radar signal and infrared signal are too obvious

Oh, yet again Chinese intelligence strikes back.

Yes, BrahMos is just like a Mig-21, but a Mig-21 that is a lot faster(read near Mach 3) and can fly at that speed just 50 feet(somtimes even lower) above the ground and is a lot smaller on radar(RCS wise), lol.

@randomradio, @_Anonymous_

Just look at how these Hans think themselves so superior over us, while in-reality they are the ones comparing BrahMos with effin Mig-21

 

[randomradio]

Well, the Brahms are similar to a high speed MIG21, not some difficult target to intercept, like the KH22 used by Russia in Ukraine, where the radar signal and infrared signal are too obvious

The Russians are using Kh-22 against unprotected targets.

 

[LX1111]

Oh, yet again Chinese intelligence strikes back.

Yes, BrahMos is just like a Mig-21, but a Mig-21 that is a lot faster(read near Mach 3) and can fly at that speed just 50 feet(somtimes even lower) above the ground and is a lot smaller on radar(RCS wise), lol.

@randomradio, @_Anonymous_

Just look at how these Hans think themselves so superior over us, while in-reality they are the ones comparing BrahMos with effin Mig-21

Well, if you were at sea, you could think that it was going supersonic at low altitude, and on the ground, at Mach 3, which is a stupid idea, a tree on the ground or a high-voltage telephone pole could have intercepted Brahmos.
Of course, this is not the first time you have expressed such poor IQ, in fact, in the middle and late cold war, the Americans decided to use the F14A and AIM54 to intercept Soviet heavy supersonic missiles，And it worked really well,
The Brahmos is a bit smaller and a bit faster than the mig-21, but it is still huge compared to other supersonic missiles, and its optical and radar signals are still noticeable
The large front inlet proves that the rcs is still large

 

[LX1111]

The Indian media didn't get the picture or their facts wrong since those pictures were for representational purposes only & the Chinese LPAR is installed in Yunnan for a number of reasons chief among which is to track ALL missile tests we conduct on our eastern coast.

Trident missile launches would be better tracked by space based ISR assets. Moreover if the US is targeting China with ICBMs or should mostly come from the Eastern Pacific closer to the US west coast not so much from US SSBNs operating in the IOR .

The Indian Ocean is closer, and at present, the PLAN does not really have a large military base in the Indian Ocean, and such a large ground radar station is an important part of the anti-missile early warning network in China, the United States and Russia

 

[Rajput Lion]

Well, if you were at sea, you could think that it was going supersonic at low altitude, and on the ground, at Mach 3, which is a stupid idea, a tree on the ground or a high-voltage telephone pole could have intercepted Brahmos.
Of course, this is not the first time you have expressed such poor IQ, in fact, in the middle and late cold war, the Americans decided to use the F14A and AIM54 to intercept Soviet heavy supersonic missiles，And it worked really well,
The Brahmos is a bit smaller and a bit faster than the mig-21, but it is still huge compared to other supersonic missiles, and its optical and radar signals are still noticeable
The large front inlet proves that the rcs is still large
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Whatever floats your boat, bud

 

[LX1111]

Whatever floats your boat, bud

Of course, given your intelligence, you think the Su-30MKI can easily defeat the J16/20/35 and our 6th generation fighters, it is not surprising that you think Brahmos is some kind of mysterious weapon that is difficult to intercept

 

[Rajput Lion]

Of course, given your intelligence, you think the Su-30MKI can easily defeat the J16/20/35 and our 6th generation fighters, it is not surprising that you think Brahmos is some kind of mysterious weapon that is difficult to intercept

Idiot, this is what I said in post no. 5 of this very thread:


Do you read here that our primary ASF(aka MKI) is completely outclassed against J-20/16 etc.? Where is the thought that MKI can easily defeat J-16/20 etc.?

And no BrahMos isn't invincible, in fact nothing is. While it could be theortically intercepted, it's a lot harder than what you think. Spare us with your Mig-21 comparison till then, lol.

PS: Talking about my intelligence, didn't I humble you in the Indian missiles thread(Astra vs PL-12 compasion) while you tucked your tail and ran away when the going got tough like a typical Chinese coward.