Normally, we need to occupy it before the Chinese move in. Or we have to retake it by force, but is unlikely to happen. The issue being both the IAF and IA are a minimum half to a generation behind.
Recall QRSAM? After Akash failed this requirement, the IA wanted 2-3 regiments of SPYDERs as stopgap before DRDO's QRSAM becomes ready, but this was 10 years ago. Same with Spike, the IA wanted a stopgap before MPATGM comes in, but we don't have either one today. So the IA today lacks SAMs and ATGMs. DRDO had promised to delivery both within 4 years, 8-10 years ago.
And now artillery, ATAGS can only be used against Pakistan. 400 ATHOS would have kept us half a generation or a full generation ahead of the Chinese, but that failed too. We are already a generation behind in rocket artillery, the IA wanted more Smerchs, but DRDO killed it. It's taken over a decade with Pinaka to catch up with some of the Smerch's capabilities, but it's still not there yet. Funny thing is ATAGS isn't even an official program, just another one of DRDO's hobby projects they decided to thrust on the IA.
IA can still fight with older systems, but just like Ukraine, we will face more casualties. For example, more than 90% of our artillery facing China are fixed 105mm, 130mm and some 155mm, and none of them are survivable. 50% destruction in a matter of weeks, 80-90% destruction in a matter of months. Even knowing this they will fight, but we will only be sending them to their deaths.
This is how important those 400 ATHOS were. The same with SPYDER and Spike. But this govt's priority is to not fight any wars, so the Chinese can behave aggressively and the IA has time to modernize.
Getting advance systems is fine, but it is also important to replenish the damaged system. For that India has to match the manufacturing capability of China and have agreements with other countries in place for supply chain.
That's just a political decision. We already use mostly NATO standard systems, so we can use their ammo.
It's too late for rocket artillery, but pretty much everything else Western is usable in India. We are integrating JDAM on LCA for example.
Ashwin used to blabber about drdo wuick reaction sam as a digbfighting missile. What happened to it & its status.
Hopefully from this year.
Aero India 2023: Indian Army orders QRSAM weapon systems
The Indian Army has ordered five Quick Reaction Surface-to-Air Missile (QRSAM) weapon systems, manufacturer Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL) told Janes at the Aero India...
www.janes.com
Both will get zero orders. All hail corrupt generals and babus.
They themselves sabotaged procurement process despite having multiple indigenous options available just to import ATHOS.
Ceaser howitzer wrighs only 17 tonnes, where mighty DRDO is bringing a 30T system. Don't blame generals for working for IA & Nation instead of vested interest kf incompetent DRDO.
What's your basis for this assumption.
Well, the 8X8 Caesar weighs 32 tons (max). And the new Caesar MkII apparently weighs > 25 tons.
What are you talking about vroo
17 tons is the weight of 39 calibre gun mounted on a 6×6, the 52 calibre mounted on 8×8 weighs more than the MGS at 32 tons.
Here is the official document straight from the Horse's mouth.
So yes I will blame the so called Generals working for the nation.
The opposite. The army's giving a chance to non-DRDO products, like the Bharat-52 and Dhanush. Had ATAGS met requirements, they would naturally have ordered the gun.
TATA's trying to reduce the weight of its prototype to 15T to meet TGS requirements.
ATAGS-MGS and CAESAR Mk2 weigh pretty much the same. But neither of them can beat the Archer.
Without a fully automatic firing mechanism, no gun can beat the Archer's effectiveness.
An 8×8 Archer also weighs around the same 30 ton mark.
As for effectiveness if you want archer level effectiveness get ready to pay archer level price of 10 million dollars a piece.
Good luck selling that to Indian army (the same Indian army mind you that wants it's next gen tank to be under the 5 million dollars a piece mark)
It's like the Rafale. Gotta pay for the capability. And 10M is for a small number. With larger orders and local production, it will get cheaper.
Just one question , how far is all proposed artillery effective with current proposed numbers in maintaining the balance at LAC when it comes to fire power? Will artillery be replaced by Pralay?
Of course not. Tube artillery will remain important. We plan to operate more guns than the PLAGF, for now.
And we can't fire away millions of Pralay, it costs a lot and is target-specific. Pralay will replace Prithvi.
Can't you think before writing nonsense like this? Or use spellcheck for that matter.
