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File a writ petition citing grave inconvenience apart from other peeves in the SC , who've ordered this to be implemented every winter since the past 2 years.
Indian Economy will continue to suffer till we realise our true potential and GOI makes a war effort to change over to methanol based based fuels to run our country. India has one of the largest population engaged in farming but decades of public distribution system based on wheat and rice has completely distorted our agriculture resulting in farm distress and increase in subsidies. We have states which even today sell rice/wheat @Rupee-1/kg to poor sections. Most of this finds its way to the market thru black marketing and corruption. In many cases the beneficieries themselves sell this in the open market at much higher price. In last four years, the land under irrigation has doubled due to sustained efforts of the present govt to reduce farm distress by boosting crop cultivation. However this improved irrigation is the major cause of the wide spread farm distress. Improved yield and bumper crops have resulted in extremely low prices and excess production adding to the woes of the farmers who are unable to even recover their basic cost.
vegetables, sugarcane etc is sown as cash crops by Indian Farmers. If we replace them witrh other crops which can produce ethanol, we can divert a very large amount of outgo of ForEx to farm sector and eliminate farm distress. My own study in this field has shown that replacing sugarcane, potato, wheat with sweet potato will give a much higher yield to farmers as cash crops and sweet potato has the highest yield per hectare of land compared to anyother biomass used for ethanol. There are some varieties of sweet potato which are unfit for human consumption and are very big in size but they have very large starch content and have a crop cycle of just 90 days with an average yield of ethanol of 6500L/hectare, These crops are also resistant to most diseases, require very low amount of water and fertiliizers. Compared to sugarcane, sweet potato has three times the yield per hectare due to its size and shape and even though it has less yield of ethanol on per kilogram basis, but much higher output for same area and less input cost, makes it far superior to sugarcane as a feed stock for ethanol conversion.
Oil companies buy ethanol at Rs27/ltr and 6500lts/hectare translates to 650lts/bigha or Rs17550/bigha of land. majority of farmers in India are marginal farmers with land holdings below one hectare. These farmers at best have two crops/year. This third crop of sweet potatoes will add to their income and even a farmer with just one acre of land can hope to get close to 90k within 90 days or 30k/month for the three month crop cycle. But what will it do in addition is what will transform India. It help us reduce oil import and subsequently completely stop it like Brazil. Improve our CAD making Indian Rupee strong and economy much larger in USD terms. The money sent abroad to purchase oil will now get distributed to our farmers and fuel being a consumable, this will multiply the income of farmers, help raise the water table by replacing sugarcane with sweet potato, increase soil moisture which in turn will help increase yield of other crops also. And finally, less use of fertilizers will improve the yield of farmers as they will get more for less. The process of converting every starch to sugar and then to ethanol is same. You have to make sugar first. We have this massive problem of dues of sugarcane farmers and this too will be resolved thru sweet potato cultivation.
I request this forum to give this post a huge publicity so that it reaches our decision makers and we move in right direction. In years to come, when we link our rivers, improve water management thru check dams, storage and drip irrigation, the farm distress will only increase and the need of the hour is to convert the improved irrigation to a huge advantage for our farmers and for our nation.
vegetables, sugarcane etc is sown as cash crops by Indian Farmers. If we replace them witrh other crops which can produce ethanol, we can divert a very large amount of outgo of ForEx to farm sector and eliminate farm distress. My own study in this field has shown that replacing sugarcane, potato, wheat with sweet potato will give a much higher yield to farmers as cash crops and sweet potato has the highest yield per hectare of land compared to anyother biomass used for ethanol. There are some varieties of sweet potato which are unfit for human consumption and are very big in size but they have very large starch content and have a crop cycle of just 90 days with an average yield of ethanol of 6500L/hectare, These crops are also resistant to most diseases, require very low amount of water and fertiliizers. Compared to sugarcane, sweet potato has three times the yield per hectare due to its size and shape and even though it has less yield of ethanol on per kilogram basis, but much higher output for same area and less input cost, makes it far superior to sugarcane as a feed stock for ethanol conversion.
Oil companies buy ethanol at Rs27/ltr and 6500lts/hectare translates to 650lts/bigha or Rs17550/bigha of land. majority of farmers in India are marginal farmers with land holdings below one hectare. These farmers at best have two crops/year. This third crop of sweet potatoes will add to their income and even a farmer with just one acre of land can hope to get close to 90k within 90 days or 30k/month for the three month crop cycle. But what will it do in addition is what will transform India. It help us reduce oil import and subsequently completely stop it like Brazil. Improve our CAD making Indian Rupee strong and economy much larger in USD terms. The money sent abroad to purchase oil will now get distributed to our farmers and fuel being a consumable, this will multiply the income of farmers, help raise the water table by replacing sugarcane with sweet potato, increase soil moisture which in turn will help increase yield of other crops also. And finally, less use of fertilizers will improve the yield of farmers as they will get more for less. The process of converting every starch to sugar and then to ethanol is same. You have to make sugar first. We have this massive problem of dues of sugarcane farmers and this too will be resolved thru sweet potato cultivation.
I request this forum to give this post a huge publicity so that it reaches our decision makers and we move in right direction. In years to come, when we link our rivers, improve water management thru check dams, storage and drip irrigation, the farm distress will only increase and the need of the hour is to convert the improved irrigation to a huge advantage for our farmers and for our nation.
grow sweet potato to completely replace fossil fuel vd ethanol like in Brazil. You may not know it but every car sold in Brazil can run on either as most engines now have chip controlled fuel injection and all u need to do is replace the chip to allow more amount of ethanol inside the chamber due to its lower calorific value.
Once it pass 74, the new value would be called the real level. Everything can be gold wrapped and sold to gullible.
Its is middle class which lost in market, seems government is complicit in their losses by allowing sensex rise to "unwarranted" levels.
Sensex was about 20000 in 2013. It jumping to 40000 level is 100% jump. There is no fundamental to back such big jump in 5 years. How was govt responsible for losses? They are called market for a reason.
By the way, rupee from 68.5 in FY2016 end must have declined by about 3% per annum to compensate for inflation difference of india and the world. Instead it appreciated by about 7.5% from 68.5 to 63.5. The ideal value in 2017 was 71. This was said several times in 2017 by many analysts and even then commerce minister Nirmala Sitharaman. Real level of rupee depends on difference between Indian inflation and global inflation.
Let us say that we got 6ton ethanol per hectare. To get 30 million ton, at 2 yield per year, we need 5 million hectare. The typical yield of sweet potato per hectare is 10 ton and the conversion factor is 30% to ethanol which yields 3ton ethanol per yield and total 6ton for 2 yield. This will mean less area for crops like rice, sugarcane etc. The area of drier regions like North karnataka, Gujarat etc can't grow sweet potato an hence the prime land itself has to be used.
The other overhead cost in terms of energy like coal electricity, diesel tractors, trucks,pesticide, fertiliser, processing of sweet potato into energy fuel etc require very similar amount of energy. The net gain will be about 10-20% of energy spent. Cultivating 5 million hectares of land twice, totalling 10 million hectares will need huge energy requirements in overheads.
Out of total electricity in India, 18% is used for agriculture. That is about 200-220 million tons of coal. Each million hectare will consume about 1million ton of coal. In addition, we also need fertiliser like ammonia, phosphate, potash which is made by using energy from fossil fuels. 30 million ton of ethanol is having same energy as 20million ton petrol which is same as about 30 million ton of coal. The energy used as electricity itself will amount to 10 million ton. Another 15-20 million ton is for tractor, truck, processing, fertiliser etc. Overall, we get that the net energy is almost equal to energy expended with about 10-20% gains at best.
It is better to use coal liquefaction and get fuel. Why bother about sweet potatos? Also, Brazil makes ethanol from sugarcane, not sweer potatoes because each ton of sugarcane can be converted to 80 litre of ethanol if no sugar is taken. So, 75ton of sugarcane per hectare will yield the same amount of ethanol as sweet potato. There is no significant benefit of sweet potato.
did you read my post properly? I did not say that we replace wheat/rice with sweet potato? I stated include it as third crop in between kharief and rabi and rabi and kharief as it has a low crop cycle of 3months. My post was about increasing the income for farmers by replacing fossil fuel with bio fuel. I don't want sweet potato at the cost of basic food grain. Brazil has lots of water while in India we are still dependent on Monsoons. Using crops which give high yield with low amount of water is what we need? BTW, do you know how many times you need to water wheat crop? It also uses very less water. And what amount of water is needed for sugarcane?
That takes years to do. Take Bangalore, it should have had a Delhi level metro system by now, but it doesn't.
If you introduce the odd-even system, and assuming it will be properly implemented, it will reduce congestion by a bit, but most people will not be able to go anywhere because of lack of transportation. Whatever public transportation we already have is overcrowded during peak hours already. It's the same case with the Mumbai local.
Also, Delhi needed radical changes because of their pollution problems, which was mainly generated outside Delhi. Most other cities have polluted waters, the air is acceptable.
The rice is sown in June-July and mature in october. It is then harvested and land tilled for sowing in November and december first 2 weeks. which is then harvested as Rabi in March.
There is no time in between Kharif and Rabi. Don't forget that tilling the land after Kharif also takes time. Harvesting and selling the crops takes time too. So, the gap of 40-45 days between th two seasons of Kharif and Rabi are unavoidable. One can't just grow sweet potato there.
Yes, I agree that sweet potato needs less water. But it also needs 2 times the sowing as of sugarcane. Due to this, the energy consumption of sweet potato becomes high. Each hectare requires 15 litre diesel for tilling and harvesting crops in mechanised manner per yield. In addition, there is requirement for truck, processing etc which will be doubled. The water consumption may be decreased but energy consumption will not.
Sweet potato farming may at best be an effective means of converting coal/natural gas into ethanol/liquid fuel. The normal coal to liquid gives yield of 65% of which 40% is in liquid fuels. The sweet potato can yield 100-120% of coal and natural gas energy to liquid fuel.
Have you heard terms like Ageti and Picheti? Ageti Paddy has already been harvested in North India and Picheti Wheat crop can be sown as late as end Dec/early Jan. Same is the case with crop change from Picheti wheat to Picheti Paddy. you can actually grow one crop of sweet potato in between the two main crops. Wheat and Paddy take about 120-130 days so two such crops will take 260 days add to that 90 days for sweet potato and it comes to a total of 350 days.
FYI, I still own over 100 acres of agricultural land which is tilled even today. So please think twice before you educate me on anything called Agriculture.
FYI, I still own over 100 acres of agricultural land which is tilled even today. So please think twice before you educate me on anything called Agriculture.
Wheat generally take 120-150days from sowing to harvest. Add this to 10-12 days for field prepration before sowing and 2-3days for harvesting and another couple of days for clearing the field from husk (bhoosa) in common language.
So around 135-165 days depending upon late sowing or early sowing for most common farming, in highly mechanized farming where u use machine to harvest and husk is not a prepared you can save 2-3 days at max as no machine can prepare your field early as it depends upon weather.
This is the normal time for wheat, if u do farming as u claim u would have known these things. A lot depend on farmer as it is labour intensive at the time of harvest and sowing. You can't just add 2+2 they are in no hurry beside land need little rest to gain fertility unless u are hell bent on destroying it by blatant use of fertilizers only. The only time field are empty, where we get two crops a year is after wheat harvesting, that time people sow zaid crops like watermelon.
My family have never grown paddy in my serving memory so no idea about it, it's even more labour intensive at the time of sowing but we grow wheat every year and a lot of it though I have very little part in it from past few years.
Talking about 3 crops a year makes no sense when we can barely get 38% of agricultural land under 2 or more crops a year. 60% agricultural land get only one crop a year due to lack of irrigation. Very small land holding among majority of farmers is another issue.
Which variety of wheat are you referring to? Most Pusa wheat varieties are cultivated within 120-135 days. sweet potato grows like potato undeground and the roots left in the soil rejuvenates the soil and increases its fertility. Even we have never grown paddy. But i know about it. Who told you about husk in wheat? Do you know the difference between the residue of wheat and paddy? The wheat residue is called Bhoosa and used as afodder for cattles while the paddy husk is unfit to be used as cattle fodder and so it is burnt. Wheat crop is cut from its base while paddy is harvested from close to its top.
As you can see, four months is maximum time but a farmer can chose to delay the harvest by about 15 days to let the grain harden further at the cost of losing the crop to birds.
These are ideal statistics as test case not real ones, real one takes 10-15 days longer due to different soil profile and irrigation type/time, most farmers use flood irrigation that is not optimal for yield and growth.
Its more like bikes claiming 100kmpl but in reality giving 60-65. Maturity time in real world for hd 3043 is around 140 days. Losing to birds is not that big an issue but losing crop to thunderstorms and rain, mostly after harvesting and before threshing is more of an issue in western UP at least, they are timed right at the time of harvesting.
It was for this very reason that I stated 120-135 days. Bcoz our own practical experience is that you are neither able to sow the entire field in one day nor able to cut the crop in one day. so the sowing cycle itself takes 3-4 days and so does cutting cycle. and than you need to add sorting and packing time also. Than you need another fortnight to prepare the soil for next for crop. But three crops with one being sweet potato/ Jowaar is highly possible. Jowaar is ready for harvesting in less than 80 days and its a crop which has every part being used by human and animals. It can also be grown like sweet potato anytime of year and in between two major crops. Its yield in Ethanol is also same as that of sweet potato.
We have done farming of Jowaar and Makka.
We have to discount April-May as very few crops can be grown in this heat. Temperature reaches 40-45 celsius consistently in April-May in many places. Even coast like Mumbai, Goa has 30-40 celsius throughout the day several days in this month.
Wheat needs 120-125 days, rice needs 120-130 days to grow and be ready for harvest. The overhead of 15 days per crop is also needed. So, we will get about 260-270 days covered and will have some time between April-June. In this time, people can grow crops like watermelon, vegetables etc. Sweet potato takes about 100-110 days to grow whereas watermelon takes 75-80 days only. Jowar also takes 80 days. Sweet potato, however is excessively long harvesting time to be practical
I had very clearly stated that there are some varieties of sweet potato which grow really big tubers, highly resistant to weather and disease and grow within 90 days. I had suggested sweet potato not for consumption but to replace fossil fuel only and to add to the income of the farmers. Take whichever crop you want, if grown in irrigated land, the crop yield is higher by as much as 20% and the cultivation time also reduces.
I suggest that you do a bit of research on organic farming using urine of cattle and human beings as additive to water for farming. It has been proven in every field trial that crops yield increases, growth time reduces and so does cultivation time. This kind of study has been done in India only based on what is written in our ancient texts and proven in every agricultural research center of India.
I wrote that post which started this debate based on the river linking resulting in much higher irrigated land availability. The effect of higher yield on farmer's income and ways to reduce farm distress. One thing which has emerged from all the replies till now is that- we can take a third crop other than Rabi & kharief.
Do you know why India has the largest number of ill fed population? It has to do with our PDS which is totally dependent on Wheat and Rice. let us add Jowaar, Millets and other such crops to PDS which will give that much needed nutrition to our population. I come from a family of Zamindaars, we never had shortage of food or money but in my house we ate Missi roti with a bit of salt in it to ensure that atta could hold water and make the rolling of such atta easy, But pure wheat atta roti was made only for guests.
Govt of India with state govts are running one of the biggest malnutrition PDS system of the world. We need to correct it and that can happen only if we educate our farmers and support other crops other than wheat and rice.
163 ultra rich Delhiites have cumulative wealth of Rs 6,78,400 crore: Barclays Hurun
P. S - Pls note @BMD.
1000 crore = 1 billion. Do the math.
P. S - Pls note @BMD.
1000 crore = 1 billion. Do the math.