It would be too bulky for ship-based deployment if based on the Shaurya in the first place. Though even in these pics it looks quite a bit larger than the VL-ASROC.
It would be too bulky for ship-based deployment if based on the Shaurya in the first place. Though even in these pics it looks quite a bit larger than the VL-ASROC.
The NOTAM for today :
So it looks like the test flight was for 25 km. Then the payload was ejected from the launch vehicle.
These were the New projects DRDO as shown in 2018 in Lok Sabha by Nirmala Sitharaman(who follows us on twitter) :
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Most projects have kept pace with the allotted time. There must be a few more tests coming up very soon. May be the NASM AShM.
Its not Shaurya. Look at the photos you can see the fins on the missile. The Shaurya's characteristic trapezoidal fin is missing. Also it makes little sense to lob torpedos at hypersonic speeds. You have to slow down before the torpedo to subsonic speeds before hits the water. Else it will be broken to bits.
They will be ship mounted, like the American ASROC. These will make it to destroyers, frigates & ASW corvettes. Some land applications may be there, but sea based deployment provides far greater flexibility of mission.
RUM-139 VL-ASROC - Wikipedia
This US system has a Range of 22 KM
So at long ranges ,against a Moving submarine , Target Acquisition will be a Challenge
Type 07 vertical-launch anti-submarine rocket - Wikipedia
This JAPANESE system has a 30 KM Range
It has to be bigger. Its range is ridiculously high compared to the ASROC
Challenging yes. But we do have some very effective submarine detection platforms.RUM-139 VL-ASROC - Wikipedia
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This US system has a Range of 22 KM
So at long ranges ,against a Moving submarine , Target Acquisition will be a Challenge
I am saying that Tracking the Target for a Longer Range would be challenging
The Concept is very interesting
After all its a Moving target
So the Torpedo will require continuous Radar or Sonar guidance
Naval VLS confuse me. If the idea is to turn the Brahmos VLS into UVLS then why come up with a new VLS for the VL-SAM ?
This is probably where the new Reaper and Guardian drones come in. Or maybe the idea is to have Kamortas & P-8Is to the detection and tracking. The engagement can be done from shore. I don't know, we will see I guess.
Tracking submarine is a completely different subject but what action we will take after if we track it, This firepower can be executed seconds after the submarine is tracked.RUM-139 VL-ASROC - Wikipedia
This US system has a Range of 22 KM
So at long ranges ,against a Moving submarine , Target Acquisition will be a Challenge
The Deployment will take many more tests in different conditions, to see how far can the target be tracked successfully
Submarines also deploy Towed Decoys
To misguide the Torpedoes
To play the devil's advocate, how are ships normally alerted to incoming torpedos? What difference would it then make whether the torpedo is launched 60 kms away or 600 kms? Plus there's the towed decoys to contend with too.Isn't a highly maneouvrable missile whether ballistic or cruise travelling at supersonic or hypersonic speeds more effective in achieving a kill as compared to a torpedo whether SMART or not ?
Active sonars if they are sensetive enough can hear a torpedo coming from around 20-25 kms.
Passive Sonars using the torpedoes homing sonar signal can detect torpedoes at ranges around 10-15 kms.
But as always its highly case specific.
Stand off targeting ability is a major boon. It allows you to target the enemy without being in danger yourself. Why do you think we insist on increasing the range of Brahmos AShM ? Its not any faster than before and will anyway be a pain in the backside to stop. Because long ranges allow standoff targeting which in turn complicates enemy's plan of attack/defence.
Towed decoy and torpedo hard-kill options are always there. This is always a race, if the torpedo is fast enough it will win.
Kill a sub with a ballistic missile ? WTF !! Ballistic missiles aren't accurate enough for this role. Cruise missiles are accurate, but what do you do if the submarine is underwater ? Blow up a massive explosive over it ? The Americans tried that, they even tried nukes. The US Navy weren't impressed with its effectiveness vs. the money spent on each of them.
Hence torpedoes are the preferred weapon for sub hunting world over.
Are you making a special attempt to play BMD these days Or is it coming naturally to you? Is the SMART developed to target ships or subs? Didn't I mention ships in my post? Where did you read subs in it?
Agree about the deployment, But when you are 1000 KM away from the enemy you have no idea what is coming your way. Not sure about towed decoy if it will active all the time it may give your position to the enemy similar to Sonar so activating sonar is also having a downside.
I think you have spent too much time with him. You see him everywhere. Is this love ? @BMD pls take note.
Subs. Why is this even a question ? What is the full form of SMART ?
I thought it was a slip of tongue. Surely you know the SMART is for ASW role.
I was under the impression it was for ships. Got mixed up juggling work & posting here. Thanks for the clarification.
@Chain Smoker you may be right. I got it wrong. Many people seem to believe the missile has Shaurya pedigree.
In the recent Shaurya test we were told the new version is sleeker and lighter. But we didn't get any photos. Maybe this is the new version. As such @Amal 's suggestion of UVLS makes more sense
In the recent Shaurya test we were told the new version is sleeker and lighter. But we didn't get any photos. Maybe this is the new version. As such @Amal 's suggestion of UVLS makes more sense
Smaller corvetts like kamortas ot the future ngmv and ngc may or maynot be able to hold them so makes sense for smaller vessels.
