Why are you being so mean when I'm supporting you in this greaty trying times.
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Why are you being so mean when I'm supporting you in this greaty trying times.
More than me plumbing for the BJP, you come across as a card carrying cadre of the Congress.
I stand corrected if I gave you the impression of being Anti-Patriotic by supporting congress. I also deeply believe in your (and Modiji's) idea of Congress Mukt Bharat.
I sincerely hope that better sense would dawn on them & they reconsider their policies on beef ban. Particularly, after what happened in Bulandshahr where, if I've connected the dots properly , the larger aim seems to have been to whip up communal tensions while there was an Ijtema being held in the vicinity housing no fewer than a million Muslims. One can imagine what the fallout would have been had these elements been successful.
Finally, it's time YA focussed on dispensing good administration in UP rather than flying all across India being a poster boy for the Ram temple, an issue past it's sell by date.
BJP will still end up single largest party and will form govt. with coalition partners. More likely someone like gadkari/shiv raj singh chauhan will be PM candidate than modi.
Anti incumbency, hmm, perhaps will be the reason given after 2019 election as well. Easy to fall back on, when you don't want to realize the actual reasons.
When you a have a Pappu to lead opposition, with almost zero big opposition names at state level, then an all time popular PM from your party at the helm and popular leader in states, anti incumbency should not make you lose, max a dent in your winning margin.
Sans MP, check the losing margin. Give you any sense of confidence?
I have personally seen kind of work Shivraj has done in MP.
WHAAATTTTTTTTTT?????????????
HOW DARE YOU BLSPHEMER?
@_Anonymous_ @Aravind teach this little TURD a lesson. he says Modiji should not be PM!!!!
Anti incumbency is the generic name given to everything from voter fatigue with the same administration over a period of three terms, to maladministration, to unemployment, rising prices, lack of support for agriculture, law & order issues,etc. Or are we to understand that 15 years in power would not leave any imprint on the voters mind except positive ones?
What according to you are the actual reasons? If you're going to mention demonetization & it's aftermath with improper implementation of GST forming a double whammy, I support that contention as well. Anything else apart from this?
Zero opposition names at state level? Is it your contention that Gehlot & Pilot are insignificant entities? That Digvijay, Scindia, Kamal nath, etc are non entities? Then I've nothing to say as apart from these three States, Haryana, Punjab, Delhi, Maharashtra, Karnataka, Kerala and Gujarat, the Congress is pretty much a marginalized entity elsewhere and a non entity in Bengal, Bihar & UP.
There was also the Vyapam scam. One of the biggest & murkiest in recent times. Yet that didn't cause much of a dent to the BJP in MP.
But Rajasthan has always been known to elect either party with a significant majority in successive elections. Pls check the tally from 1998 onwards till date.
Coming to CG, the BJP were in trouble the last time too. They got away by the skin of their teeth then. What may have also helped is the decimation of the top leadership of the Congress. Plus if you have noticed, the margins for victory in states like CG, Kerala, etc is minimal. A slight swing in voting patterns can & does result in significant gains / losses.
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Time to hit the bottle again. In a celebratory mood this time. A repeat viewing of Thugs too. Just for nostalgia. Throw in braying of the gospels and a dip in belandoor lake post midnight. Lots of things to keep you occupied this evening, rather than celebrating by punching at the keyboard duelling faceless entities online.
There are a lot of factors.
Demo created a very small impact, negligible.
A big impact in the urban areas came from GST. We saw BJP losing 20 seats even in Gujarat. So this killed a lot of urban votes for BJP.
But the main impact came from the SC/ST act. BJP lost 20 seats belonging to the SCs in MP, and another 10-15 seats in areas dominated by upper castes. So caste politics came to bite them in the *censored*. The rest to anti-incumbency, primarily rural areas which suffered from bad policies, like the beef ban.
Another problem was Modi did not participate in these elections like he should have.
YA is doing fine. He has been pulling crowds in rallies, so whatever he's been doing has been good. All this mandir circus has become his department, since it's his state, so his focus on the Ayodhya issue and spreading it in other states is working out. Modi should have showed up a bit more in MP.
One can't say Demonetization had negligible impact. That coupled with the ham handedness of the implementation of Demonetization & GST certainly contributed to rural distress particularly among the most deprived sections of the society namely the SC, ST, OBC's etc.
Having said that, both demonetization & GST were necessary for the greater good of India's growth in the formal economy and consequent contribution to the tax base.
One would have to add the rescinding of the SC act by the Supreme Court & it's belated restitution to the subsidiary list of grievances following unemployment, instability in the prices of agricultural produce, mal effects of beef ban, etc.
The game plan flopped. It's as simple as that. The aim of promoting YA seems to be to create a secondary rung of national leaders to carry the torch ahead in say, a decade from now. While Modi cut his teeth administering Gujarat for nearly 3 terms, with results to show for, what has YA to his credit?
He should begin by confining himself to UP & focus on the administration there. For if current trends are anything to go by, he has his work cut out in UP, more so if BSP & SP decide to come together , which seems very likely going by the current situation, in which case BJP may well kiss their chances of getting past 200 seats in the LS goodbye.
BJP lost max ground with upper castes and OBCs while the SCs were indifferent as always. BJP's attempts to woo them have failed completely and in the bargain they lost their committed voters. yet the vote percentage in Rajsthan shows just 0.4% advantage to Congress and in MP both have same vote share. If we analyse this, it is very clear that in MP & RJ, BJP scored self goal.
Partywise Result
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The thing about demo, the negative effects were felt more in the urban areas than in the rural areas. After the first 2 months, by Jan or so, rural areas had enough money, especially the Hindi belt, including UP. So there was no real negative impact beyond Feb once enough money was in circulation.
These elections were mostly to do with punishing BJP, not a pro-Congress election. Congress failed miserably in Telangana and Mizoram, so it's not like people are really interested in what RaGa has to say. The SC/ST Act was devastating. BJP ironically lost both upper caste and lower caste votes at the same time for no fault of their own.
I agree that bringing YA out so quickly was a bad move. But the main agenda in UP is currently the mandir, so YA's participation is pretty important right now. So YA's past record is not as important as the mandir issue. If he fails, he is expendable.
This reminds of-Choubayji chale Chhabayji ban nay, dubay bhi na rahe.
The vote share of BJP clearly shows that it is not anti-incumbency vote in MP & RJ but self inflicted damage. BJP will now have to clear Ram Temple to be relevant for 2019 otherwise we are back to khichdi govts at center.
